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Topic: Robopong 3050xl vs BTY Amicus Pro robot
Posted By: slevin
Subject: Robopong 3050xl vs BTY Amicus Pro robot
Date Posted: 02/17/2018 at 4:57pm
Anyone played with both the http://www.newgy.com/p-284-robo-pong-3050.aspx" rel="nofollow - Robopong 3050xl and the http://shop.butterflyonline.com/amicus-professional-robot" rel="nofollow - Butterfly Amicus Pro ? I've seen a comparison table but wanted to hear from actual players on the pros and cons of each.

Actually, anyone have a review of the Robopong 3050XL? Also, anyone tried the http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1743882979/trainerbot-smart-ping-pong-robot" rel="nofollow - trainerbot ?


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Posted By: wanchope
Date Posted: 02/17/2018 at 5:41pm
I'm also very interested. Looks like a contender to the amicus

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Posted By: benfb
Date Posted: 02/17/2018 at 8:38pm
I'm interested in this too.

My gut feeling is that the Amicus has more controls and can do more things.  That said, the problem with the Amicus has always been it's too complicated. For example, you can store many patterns, but you have no easy way to find the pattern you want, or to simply edit an existing (saved) pattern.  My hope is that the 3050XL, with its BT link and App, will provide better control.


Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 02/17/2018 at 8:43pm
A person involved in 3050XL design claimed that the butterfly robots with their three heads cannot give pure topspin or backspin balls. They always have a bit of side spin in them. I don't know how much truth there is in that statement. Could someone with experience with the butterfly robots please corroborate or invalidate that?

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Posted By: vic
Date Posted: 02/17/2018 at 9:54pm
The Amicus can deliver pure top spin and backspin.
It is easy to program or modify an existing routine.
It takes time to find a known program if it has a mid range number (30-70); you can only jump one routine at a time. Very few people would have many routines programmed...it is easier to just to temporarily modify an existing routine.
I've owned a robopong 1050 previously, so can't comment about the 3050.  I've used the Amicus for hundreds of hours in the last 2 years.
Hope this helps 


Posted By: benfb
Date Posted: 02/18/2018 at 1:28am
Originally posted by vic vic wrote:

The Amicus can deliver pure top spin and backspin.
It is easy to program or modify an existing routine.
It takes time to find a known program if it has a mid range number (30-70); you can only jump one routine at a time. Very few people would have many routines programmed...it is easier to just to temporarily modify an existing routine.
I've owned a robopong 1050 previously, so can't comment about the 3050.  I've used the Amicus for hundreds of hours in the last 2 years.
Hope this helps 
I have the earlier Amicus 3000+.  Finding the right stored program, or even knowing where to look, is always problematic, and I think it works about the same on the current generation Amicus as well.  

What you need is a simple way to scroll through a list of programs visually, like on a computer.  And to be able to adjust by simply changing parameters.  Doing it at the console is always pain in the neck, at least for me.

I do agree that the three heads should be no problem for pure top or bottom spin.


Posted By: wanchope
Date Posted: 03/16/2018 at 9:44am
Well the 3050xl seems like a very capable robot. I'm attempted. I guess Amicus can provide the same training options as 3050xl does?

Here are the advanced level drills of 3050. This guy has a bunch of great video demos. There are also the entry level and the intermediate level drills.


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Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 03/16/2018 at 9:58am
I got the 3050xl. Very good indeed.

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Posted By: wanchope
Date Posted: 03/16/2018 at 10:06am
Great! I'd love to hear about your user experience and its durablity (too early to tell I guess?).

The biggest factor that prevents me from placing the order now is its price....

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Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 03/16/2018 at 10:25am
Not much to tell. The wheels can spin in both directions (important to help generate heavy spin in slow strokes. Not all expensive robots do that - for example the Paddle Palace H2W Touch Pro / Y&T 989H does not).

Very customizable (especially in its 'precision' setting). You control the robot by a smartphone app. The advantage of this method is that Robopong can send you extra features in future upgrades like Tesla can (in fact, they just had a fairly significant upgrade last week). You can even adjust time between each ball in a drill (rather than having a constant time for all balls in a drill).

Different types of random modes available.

If, instead of customizing your own drills, you choose to load their standard drills, you generally, also get a link to the video of Dubina showing you how to perform that drill.

Another advantage is that the robot was designed here in the US. So, if you live here and have a potential issue, it is easy to get in touch with the technical designer here rather than just an intermediary who might not solve your problem.

Let me search for disadvantages (if I can reach): more plasticky than my older H2W Touch Pro. No off switch (you have to disconnect the wire). That's basically it for now.

Of course, bear in mind that none of these robots (AFAIK) can serve corkscrew spin.


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Posted By: wanchope
Date Posted: 03/16/2018 at 10:48am
Awesome! Thank you for the information! I'll probably start saving for the robot..

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Posted By: dsc13
Date Posted: 03/16/2018 at 2:11pm
Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

I got the 3050xl. Very good indeed.

Can you comment on how the 3050XL performs when feeding balls at a higher rate of speed, like 80 balls/min, and changing from underspin to topspin?  For example, a deep underspin to the extreme BH corner, and then a deep topspin to the FH?

I had a Smartpong robot, which is very similar in construction to the 3050XL but with only one wheel, and in this scenario, the robot didn't perform well if the feed rate got over 60 balls/minute.

Just curious to see if Newgy was able to solve this problem with this design.

Thanks


Posted By: superman859
Date Posted: 03/30/2018 at 8:02am
Slevin, would you say you like the 3050xl better than your h2w pro? I've actually been very close to pulling the trigger on an h2w pro but just heard about the 3050xl, similar price range.

Main issues I heard about h2w pro was lack of random (although you can create a drill of 9 shots or something), and speed is fairly low compared to most robots.

I also looked at amicus pro a little bit, but main issues on that one appear to be complexity in use and it also would likely not work out of box with my custom built table.

Which brings me to my last and most important question, how does the 3050xl connect to table? There are currently very limited details or videos around it's setup, other than it works "with all known commercial tables". Does it connect similar to an amicus or does it have a floor base? If similar to amicus, do you know the maximum width of table clamp could work with or have image/details of the mount? I built a table but the edges have a trim piece around them taller than the 1" max an amicus works for. I worry the 3050xl is similar and I may need to modify table to use, unless it has a clamp than can open wider than that.


Posted By: dsc13
Date Posted: 03/30/2018 at 6:18pm
Originally posted by superman859 superman859 wrote:

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Which brings me to my last and most important question, how does the 3050xl connect to table? There are currently very limited details or videos around it's setup, other than it works "with all known commercial tables". Does it connect similar to an amicus or does it have a floor base? If similar to amicus, do you know the maximum width of table clamp could work with or have image/details of the mount? I built a table but the edges have a trim piece around them taller than the 1" max an amicus works for. I worry the 3050xl is similar and I may need to modify table to use, unless it has a clamp than can open wider than that.

The 3050XL uses the same mounting method as their 2050/2040 robots and current Amicus Pro, which is that it hangs off the edge of the table.  I'd suggest contacting Newgy direct for suggestions to deal with your thicker edge piece.





Posted By: maurice101
Date Posted: 03/30/2018 at 6:36pm
The butterfly robot uses a deflector plate for up and down and side to side. I think this means that any corner ball has a bit of side spin added into the set spin. This is what happens with my butterfly 3000+ robot and I think the pro has the same setup but with 3 wheels. Someone could confirm this sidespin issue though. The 3050 and the coming robobot have the whole wheel head turning for direction and up and down so they do not have this issue. I also feel that the 3050 could be a bit more player realistic as you can see where the ball is going from the robot head direction. This is difficult to do with the butterfly with the defector plates. For me I would go with robobot or 3050.


Posted By: PythonMonty
Date Posted: 03/30/2018 at 9:36pm
Originally posted by maurice101 maurice101 wrote:

The butterfly robot uses a deflector plate for up and down and side to side. I think this means that any corner ball has a bit of side spin added into the set spin. This is what happens with my butterfly 3000+ robot and I think the pro has the same setup but with 3 wheels. Someone could confirm this sidespin issue though.

Confirmed. In fact, depending on the state of the balls and deflector plates, and the intended spin imparted by the rotors, corner shots can have added or diminished side spin, corkscrew spin or even rotation about the fourth dimensional time axis which causes the ball to pass cleanly through my racket. I know this sounds odd, but it's really the only explanation because I never swing and miss.


Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 03/31/2018 at 9:17am
Originally posted by dsc13 dsc13 wrote:


Can you comment on how the 3050XL performs when feeding balls at a higher rate of speed, like 80 balls/min, and changing from underspin to topspin?  For example, a deep underspin to the extreme BH corner, and then a deep topspin to the FH?
Thanks

I think that almost all 2 or 3 head robots should be able to do this well. 3050XL does as well.


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Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 03/31/2018 at 9:23am
Originally posted by superman859 superman859 wrote:

Slevin, would you say you like the 3050xl better than your h2w pro?

Clearly better. Not just because of the random modes, but also because:
  1. you can customize drills more precisely (wait time on each ball being different, etc)
  2. you can save a lot more customized drills (my H2W Touch Pro could only save 8)
  3. you get much stronger spin on short balls (not strong enough on the H2W Touch Pro as in that robot, you can't have 1 robot wheel moving in 1 direction and the other wheel moving in the opposite direction)
Originally posted by superman859 superman859 wrote:

Which brings me to my last and most important question, how does the 3050xl connect to table?


Hope this helps.


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Posted By: wanchope
Date Posted: 04/18/2018 at 8:15am
Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

Originally posted by dsc13 dsc13 wrote:


Can you comment on how the 3050XL performs when feeding balls at a higher rate of speed, like 80 balls/min, and changing from underspin to topspin?  For example, a deep underspin to the extreme BH corner, and then a deep topspin to the FH?
Thanks


I think that almost all 2 or 3 head robots should be able to do this well. 3050XL does as well.


I have a question. How do you pause or stop the robot during a drill? Your cell phone screen won't stay on the whole time and what if the phone battery dies? Is this an inconvenience in daily use?

Thanks! I'm really thinking of buying it .

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Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 04/18/2018 at 1:30pm
Originally posted by wanchope wanchope wrote:


I have a question. How do you pause or stop the robot during a drill? Your cell phone screen won't stay on the whole time and what if the phone battery dies? Is this an inconvenience in daily use?

Thanks! I'm really thinking of buying it .

You specify at the beginning how many minutes you want the drill to last. Your phone screen turns into a giant red STOP button. If you want to stop midway, press the button, that is all.

If the phone battery dies, then you can't use the machine, I guess. Elementary to plan around.


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Posted By: wanchope
Date Posted: 04/18/2018 at 2:08pm
Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

Originally posted by wanchope wanchope wrote:


I have a question. How do you pause or stop the robot during a drill? Your cell phone screen won't stay on the whole time and what if the phone battery dies? Is this an inconvenience in daily use?

Thanks! I'm really thinking of buying it .


You specify at the beginning how many minutes you want the drill to last. Your phone screen turns into a giant red STOP button. If you want to stop midway, press the button, that is all.

If the phone battery dies, then you can't use the machine, I guess. Elementary to plan around.


Great! Sounds pretty easy to use. I guess if I set the minutes at the begining of the drill, it doesn't even matter if the phones dies? (I need to get a new phone, the current one shuts down randomly around 40%...)
I'm going to get one. It's expensive but hopefully it'd help me improve alot!


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Posted By: wilkinru
Date Posted: 04/18/2018 at 6:54pm
Originally posted by vic vic wrote:

I have the earlier Amicus 3000+.  Finding the right stored program, or even knowing where to look, is always problematic, and I think it works about the same on the current generation Amicus as well.  


This indeed is a complex problem. However I think even you have the technology to solve this one.


Pencil and paper. Each number I write down what the drill is.



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Posted By: TTslurp
Date Posted: 04/19/2018 at 2:27am
Slevin, the Youtube movie say Robopong 3050xl need special balls. But I wonder if it work good with ordinary plastic balls?


Posted By: wanchope
Date Posted: 04/19/2018 at 9:00am
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I want to give credit to Slevin for being a good coach to wanchope. Thank you for taking care of kids.


And yourself, kiddo.

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Posted By: wanchope
Date Posted: 04/19/2018 at 9:03am
Originally posted by TTslurp TTslurp wrote:

Slevin, the Youtube movie say Robopong 3050xl need special balls. But I wonder if it work good with ordinary plastic balls?


Not sure about that, since the robo balls coming with the robot are also 40+. Hope they are similar to the normal brands, for the sake of realistic practice. With that said, you'd get 144 so called top notch robo balls when purchasing the robot. I believe that's way more than enough, especially for a robot with recycling system.

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Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 05/16/2018 at 12:31am
For anyone that has this robot, how long does it take to change from topspin to backspin?

I can see that it can do this either by rotating the head, or by changing the relative speed of the wheels. I expect the rotating of the head will be quicker, but would like to know which method it uses, and how fast it can do this. None of the videos I've seen seem to illustrate this.



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Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 05/16/2018 at 9:48am
Originally posted by haggisv haggisv wrote:

For anyone that has this robot, how long does it take to change from topspin to backspin?

I can see that it can do this either by rotating the head, or by changing the relative speed of the wheels. I expect the rotating of the head will be quicker, but would like to know which method it uses, and how fast it can do this. None of the videos I've seen seem to illustrate this.


I don't think that the head rotates. It is very fast. While this drill ('Forehand Game Situation' and 'Backhand Game Situation' from 5:24 onwards in the video below) is slow, that is because it is a beginner drill. The spins (for advanced drills) can get very heavy and the speed of transition quite fast.

Note: under 'Precision Mode' (not used in the video below), you can determine the transition time between each ball.



See 3:40 onwards (Serve, Backspin, Topspin) in the following:



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Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 05/16/2018 at 9:56am
Originally posted by TTslurp TTslurp wrote:

Slevin, the Youtube movie say Robopong 3050xl need special balls. But I wonder if it work good with ordinary plastic balls?

yes, it works OK with ordinary plastic balls.


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Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 05/16/2018 at 9:58am
BTW: this shows the precision mode controls in the robot - see how you can even control (to some extent) the amount of randomness in the balls.




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Posted By: wanchope
Date Posted: 05/16/2018 at 10:29am
There's no issue on how fast the robot can switch from backspin to topspin. I don't notice anything. However there are quite a few bugs related to the drill settings, loading precision mode drills, and managing self created drills, etc. The overall experience is still quite lacking, not exactly what are showing in the videos.
However, all of these issues can be potentially fixed by future app updates, which, according to my coversation with their technical support, should be upcoming soon. I'll have to wait and see.

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Posted By: wanchope
Date Posted: 05/16/2018 at 10:31am
Their customer services/technical support folks are quite responsive so far.

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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 05/16/2018 at 12:47pm
Damned, it looks so complicated !!!! I prefer the newgy 2050.
There is also a 2055 now. easier to use and with good exercices already available.


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Posted By: wanchope
Date Posted: 05/16/2018 at 1:04pm
If 3050 really works as it's design to be, it is totally at a different level of 2050. But now with the bugs to be fixed, I suggest you wait a little longer.

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Posted By: Bilbo
Date Posted: 05/16/2018 at 1:17pm
Originally posted by TTslurp TTslurp wrote:

Slevin, the Youtube movie say Robopong 3050xl need special balls. But I wonder if it work good with ordinary plastic balls?

I don't think it says that.  I think it says to only use recommended balls...which I would assume are just 40+ balls.  

I will be in the market for a machine soon and this thread has been very useful.  Thanks to all who contributed so far!


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Posted By: wanchope
Date Posted: 05/16/2018 at 1:31pm
Originally posted by Bilbo Bilbo wrote:

Originally posted by TTslurp TTslurp wrote:

Slevin, the Youtube movie say Robopong 3050xl need special balls. But I wonder if it work good with ordinary plastic balls?


I don't think it says that.  I think it says to only use recommended balls...which I would assume are just 40+ balls.  

I will be in the market for a machine soon and this thread has been very useful.  Thanks to all who contributed so far!


I can confirm. The user manual says 40+ balls, which is basically what they recommend.

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Posted By: Egghead
Date Posted: 05/16/2018 at 2:10pm
after seeing few videos, I believe the robopong 3050xl shall have this feature to help practice serve, in fact, newgy has everything, may be some ee / it guy here can hack the robopong. Wink

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Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 05/16/2018 at 7:04pm
Thanks everyone!
Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

I don't think that the head rotates.

I've seen a video on the Newgy website where the head rotates.

Regarding the precision that someone mentioned, I think the variation in balls has a lot to do with this, as no robot can be accurate with variations in ball size and shape. Balls used are only training balls, 3* balls may show some improvement.


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Posted By: wanchope
Date Posted: 05/16/2018 at 7:27pm
Originally posted by haggisv haggisv wrote:

Thanks everyone!
Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

I don't think that the head rotates.

I've seen a video on the Newgy website where the head rotates.

Regarding the precision that someone mentioned, I think the variation in balls has a lot to do with this, as no robot can be accurate with variations in balls. Balls used are only training balls, 3* may show some improvement.



Of course the head rotates. But that's for side spins.

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Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 05/16/2018 at 9:27pm
Originally posted by wanchope wanchope wrote:

There's no issue on how fast the robot can switch from backspin to topspin.

If that's the case that's impressive, because it takes considerable power (current) to change the speed from high to low in a short time period, and that's what's required if you want to change from topspin to backspin. Perhaps the timing will be noticable if you change from maximum backspin to maximum topspin.



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Posted By: CroNone
Date Posted: 05/16/2018 at 9:55pm
The only thing that I don't like about the design of these bots is that the head can't slide the width of the table or come off the end of the table. It can't really simulate human training which involves multiball from the sides and simulate blocking from different positions. I suppose if say you wanted to practice down the line you could move the Newgy to the corner but you have to drag the net along. The 1050 is much better suited to swap positions. If only the 1050 had multiple motors and the rotation head....



Posted By: reflecx
Date Posted: 05/17/2018 at 3:58am
Originally posted by CroNone CroNone wrote:

The only thing that I don't like about the design of these bots is that the head can't slide the width of the table or come off the end of the table. It can't really simulate human training which involves multiball from the sides and simulate blocking from different positions.


There is the Newstar 2080CR ...

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Posted By: tim897
Date Posted: 07/01/2018 at 11:02am
I just got the Newgy 3050XL last week. The setup was easy and I was up and going soon. However, faced some issues. Would be great if other owners can comment.

1. Just right out of the box, when I turn it on, it produces a high frequency noise. Is this normal?
2. On the third day, when I tried to connect it through the app, it got stuck in the "Calibrating..." screen. It was clear that the phone bluetooth was able to connect to the device. But it was not proceeding any further. After trying for half an hour it finally worked.
3. On the third day, it is able to connect, but the ball doesn't shoot out. It falls down with very low force as if the motor that is supposed to push it is not working at all.

Has anyone faced this issue? Did I get a bad unit?


Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 07/01/2018 at 6:28pm
I think it is best that you ask the manufacturer - they should remedy this for you.

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Posted By: TenniRobo
Date Posted: 07/18/2018 at 3:11pm
Originally posted by CroNone CroNone wrote:

The only thing that I don't like about the design of these bots is that the head can't slide the width of the table or come off the end of the table. It can't really simulate human training which involves multiball from the sides and simulate blocking from different positions. 

Do you know about TenniRobo  http://youtu.be/vscnrkkSr94" rel="nofollow - http://youtu.be/vscnrkkSr94  ? It has a lot of functions and can be placed anywhere around the table, so it makes very realistic balls


Posted By: Scottluther111
Date Posted: 07/28/2018 at 12:03pm
Lol, that’s what I do. Use a spread sheet on my iPad and just go to that memory location.

By far the dumbest thing I’ve done with my new amicus is not throw enough balls in the catcher. I always used the one at the club and if you throw a couple of balls in the net a couple of balls come back out. Never thought about there being a stack on balls in the neck already. So I set up my new machine and threw 6 balls in to calibrate and no balls came out. I check the cables, the balls seemed to feed and couldn’t understand why they weren’t coming out. Thought it fed the balls all the way up. Wasn’t until I took the head off and ran it that I realized it was just pushing them from the bottom.

And to everyone, it does put a little side spin on wide balls. At first I use to add opposite spin on wide balls to counter it. But real life play, most wide shots do have side spin so now I just leave it.


Posted By: apex600
Date Posted: 11/23/2018 at 11:31am
I have the robopong 2050 and was thinking to upgrade to the amicus prime. I just discovered the existance of the new robopong but these reviews were not really what i was hoping to read:

https://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=newgy-robopong-3050xl

only thing that is keeping me from buying the amicus is actually that it is probably impossible to see the direction where the next ball will be shot because the head is not moving. in real game situation, you would also start moving towards the corrzct locstion when you see the movement of your opponent. can amicus users give me some feedback on that?


Posted By: mts388
Date Posted: 11/23/2018 at 2:54pm
Originally posted by apex600 apex600 wrote:

I have the robopong 2050 and was thinking to upgrade to the amicus prime. I just discovered the existance of the new robopong but these reviews were not really what i was hoping to read:

https://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=newgy-robopong-3050xl

only thing that is keeping me from buying the amicus is actually that it is probably impossible to see the direction where the next ball will be shot because the head is not moving. in real game situation, you would also start moving towards the corrzct locstion when you see the movement of your opponent. can amicus users give me some feedback on that?


I have an amicus advantage that I bought after selling my 2050.  In my opinion  the 2050 is a much better robot.  I think the thing I dislike most about the amicus is that it's not designed to give serves.  There is not much I like about the amicus.  There isn't an on/off switch.  It has to be unplugged from the power supply.  The instruction book is very weak.  There are 3 head heights that can be used, but no information on what height is best for any shots.  Everything is trial by error.  If you set up certain shots you want to work on, you won't always get that shot.  The instruction book says they don't give you the same shot because you don't get the same shots in a match.  Sometimes the shot I get is more that a foot from what I programmed. 

I don't know about the other amicus robots, but the advantage is a bad robot.



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