Butterfly Tenergy 05 HARD | youtube review
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Topic: Butterfly Tenergy 05 HARD | youtube review
Posted By: Tajny1989
Subject: Butterfly Tenergy 05 HARD | youtube review
Date Posted: 12/10/2018 at 6:06am
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Posted By: benfb
Date Posted: 01/28/2019 at 1:28am
| Tenergy 05 Hard has been out about three months and I've only met a few people who play with it. And everyone of them tells me something different about what it's like. I plan to give a try myself in a month or two, but in the meanwhile, I wondered if there are any more public reviews and anyone with a lot of experience with it who would like to provide an updated comment? |
Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 01/28/2019 at 10:17am
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Not many PROs switched to it. ------------- InfinityVPS - D80 - D05 |
Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 01/28/2019 at 10:24am
| if you have met people who played with it, why don't you just ask to try it - nothing beats the real deal |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/28/2019 at 11:04am
I thought that would be the case, but in the end I've been surprised by how many BTY list as users. Jin Ueda Yukiya Uda Wong Chun Ting Lee Sangsu Timo Boll Ruwin Filus Kristian Karlsson Jonathan Groth Probably some others in there too, haven't gone down the full list. It takes a lot to convince the pros to make any change, probably more so for the older ones who have invested so many years in refining the use of a setup, so I think that's still quite a lot. More are popping up on the list with Dignics as well, so get ready for BTY's charm offensive for that soon. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Stavros wrote:Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 01/28/2019 at 11:34am
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I would really be surprised if Ruwen Filus really used it because it is really not the correct rubber for the allround player who based his game on spin. Even for the other players on the list...all of them are under contract with BTY, so even if they play with regular T05, BTY can write everywhere they all play with T05 hard ....just to push their new product. ------------- Def play grey grip 94gr, Venus 2 blue 2,2, Neubauer KO extreme 1,3mm |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/28/2019 at 11:49am
Sure, it's possible that BTY can just lie about everything and it's very easy to be skeptical. It's very hard to prove one way or the other without high-res images of setups accidentally caught during matches, or if someone is lucky enough to get hold of match official images (like we get with some German sources from time to time). So without that, you either take BTY at their word as far as it goes, or you just don't believe anything they ever say. For me (and I'm no BTY fan), I base it on past experience. How trustworthy are they in this context? I can't recall a time when they were caught out being seriously underhanded, which would undermine their credibility. For example, I recall LGY being listed as T05H on BH, but now he's Dignics 05. You could spin that as BTY using his name to push the "new thing", or you could say he experimented for a few months (and still might be). It's very easy to be cynical when forming an opinion on this in the absence of evidence one way or the other. As a comparison - Stiga have been caught many times telling blatant porkies about what their sponsored pros use, so I'm far more skeptical about any claim they make (relatively). About Filus - I'd actually say that T05H would really suit him. He's hardly all round on his FH wing - he's very aggressive on that side, hardly ever FH chops, and often gets caught far from the table because of his BH chopping and so requires lots of power. But everyone is different, so hey ho. Will be interesting if we get images from the German leagues this year... ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 01/28/2019 at 12:27pm
I have been using it for a month. I hate to say this but I love it. I recommend it to a player who has switched from Chinese rubbers to European / Japanese and finds T05 too soft for FH. ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 01/28/2019 at 12:37pm
I've been using T05 Hard on my Photino and it does what I want, speed and spin with placement.  -------------  Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: benfb
Date Posted: 01/28/2019 at 1:23pm
As I mentioned in my post, I did ask them about their experience and I got different reports. I was hoping for more insight here, but no one has really posted any extensive experience or thoughts yet. I will say this: traditionally, Pros prefer harder sponges for their loops. Pros can get the same rubbers as us (T05, for example), but they can often request (or look through a box) to find harder samples. The hardness varies by where in the loaf of sponge the manufacturer slices that particular piece of sponge. So, given a version of T05 that is designed to be harder, I expect to see strong interest from the pros over the long run. How well T05H works for any given player probably depends upon their stroke technique. I know we've got some pretty advanced players on this forum, so I was hoping some of them would have a report.
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Posted By: TT newbie
Date Posted: 01/28/2019 at 1:29pm
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How much will BTY ask for Dignics? How many people will eat the bait? I say "a lot" for both questions.
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Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 01/29/2019 at 8:07pm
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The interesting question is how does it compare to other hard ESN variants that can be had for less than 1/2 of T05 hard price: Andro Rasanter R50 Xiom Omega 7 Asia Xiom Omega 7 Tour
and perhaps a few others. ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: jackass22
Date Posted: 01/30/2019 at 2:11am
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I think, that biggest competitor for tenergy is joola rhyzer 50 /48/ mm. Here is the biggest improvement in last 3-4 years. Its very close to fresh glue feeling.
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Posted By: ashishsharmaait
Date Posted: 01/30/2019 at 4:23am
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I use H3N and was interested yo see how it goes. I tried it recently on a Victas AFC (which is a medium hard, medium flexible blade). It is a very heavy rubber. Cut to 157x150 BTY head size, it is 52g! Its hardness is equivalent to a 39 degree boosted H3N although the feel is very different. It plays softer than the 43 degree hardness, requires lesser bat speed and effort than H3N but more than T05 or even R50 for that matter to get a good rip on the ball. I personally felt that it was the worst of both worlds. It lacks the feeling of holding the ball and letting it to that H3N gives you in the short game. The added weight makes the BH a bit uncomfortable. The harder sponge makes the ball slip more on slow loops which are just off the table when you are late to the ball. Passive blocking is worse than T05. Spin on medium effort shots is the same and I felt the arc was a bit flat unless you managed to give the ball a good rip. I feel that the sponge is 2-3 degree too hard. |