bobrow lost to a mark v
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Topic: bobrow lost to a mark v
Posted By: pingpungpeng
Subject: bobrow lost to a mark v
Date Posted: 05/17/2019 at 2:50pm
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from what I remember the guy who beat him uses yasaka mark v in the bh (not boosted). does this mean that you can get to 2200 with unboosted mark v? |
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Posted By: vanjr
Date Posted: 05/17/2019 at 2:56pm
| You will have to make the significance of this more obvious. He lost to a player who uses an all time classic rubber. So??? |
Posted By: bard romance
Date Posted: 05/17/2019 at 2:59pm
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As if you didn't know the answer, didn't you just answer your own question? |
Posted By: jfolsen
Date Posted: 05/17/2019 at 3:16pm
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Umm, people used to win world championships with unboosted Mark V and Sriver. How is this news? |
Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 05/17/2019 at 3:44pm
People used to play with 38mm cellular balls though. I doubt if anyone can reach top 100 using these rubber today, even if they play defense. I think someone can get to a respectable level with these rubbers, but they are not for everyone.
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jfolsen wrote:Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/17/2019 at 3:48pm
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People can play 2500 level with long pimples and Hardbat. Why shouldn't they be able to do it with Mark V? It's not the equipment in itself. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 05/17/2019 at 4:28pm
2500 would be a respectable level for sure.
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Posted By: pingpungpeng
Date Posted: 05/17/2019 at 5:03pm
because mark v is inverted?
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Posted By: bard romance
Date Posted: 05/17/2019 at 5:32pm
Your posts are not quite reflective of your self-assessment of being around the same level as Dan from TableTennisDaily.
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Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 05/17/2019 at 5:47pm
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C'mon BR, Next Level is 2+ levels below Dan, anyone seeing vids will know... to answer PPP (the OP) question, yes, one can be 2200+ with Mark V... ... and Next Level is pretty consistent answering affirmative to that. ... to address another member's comment, what is respectable is kinda relative. Some places, 1800 USATT is pretty respectable, some places, 2000 level doesn't make you fit to even be the Water Boy. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: bard romance
Date Posted: 05/17/2019 at 6:10pm
My comment was directed to the OP who recently stated he thinks he is around Dan's level. Anyone around that level (or even half of it) would know the answer to this question, but PPP seems to like to ask questions with obvious answers (not the first one pertaining to Bobrow) for reasons I do not understand. http://mytabletennis.net/forum/what-would-you-do_topic85941.html" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/what-would-you-do_topic85941.html" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/what-would-you-do_topic85941.html |
Posted By: pingpungpeng
Date Posted: 05/17/2019 at 6:50pm
yeah I probably overestimated my level. I'm pretty lousy actually. not only in tt but in everything I do
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Posted By: vik2000
Date Posted: 05/17/2019 at 8:02pm
| Lol, people talking about Mark V as if it's a slower rubber. You can generate plenty of speed and spin with it. There are also tons of Chinese players with ridiculously cheap equipment beating players using $400 set up. |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 05/18/2019 at 2:32am
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Bobrow isnt playing seriously. One he serves, he just keep feeding&fish ing balls and making a step backwards for lobbing &fun. I guess the other player is playing a really fast blade, you can't hit that hard with an OFF- blade with such rubbers. ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: pingpungpeng
Date Posted: 05/18/2019 at 2:37am
he always used a rather slow blade. I remember he used a banda waldner some time ago. in this match adam seems to mix it up. some attack and some lobbing.
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Posted By: Lula
Date Posted: 05/18/2019 at 2:58am
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i think you almost Do not need a bh rubber against bobrow. I am not the fastest Guy But i think i could win with only a forehand rubber. No need to play bh if he play those high balls. I also mark v works to a certain level if you have good technique.
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Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 05/18/2019 at 7:36am
This is very true. It made no difference what rubber is on the BH side. Regarding Sriver rubber, does any one here tried it with 40+ ball? I didn’t, but I have tried with classic rubber from Stiga. I can make it work, but it takes a lot of effort and very frustrating. So I really like to hear your comment if you actually use it.
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Posted By: pingpungpeng
Date Posted: 05/18/2019 at 12:12pm
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from what I remember adam's opponent always had a good bh topspin. and he always used mark v with no glue. so I guess the conclusion is that up to maybe 2700 you can make a mark v or a sriver work. why? because up to this level technique errors have more relevance than anything related to equipment.
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Posted By: Simas
Date Posted: 05/18/2019 at 12:40pm
compared to the matches I've seen with Bobrow playing, I would say the opposite. This time he is rather serious. Cause most of the times he is just fooling around
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Posted By: FruitLoop
Date Posted: 05/18/2019 at 1:39pm
Look up Satoshi Aida. Uses Mark V both sides plays Swedish top division. Easily top 200 in the world standard but doesn't play internationally afaik.
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Posted By: pingpungpeng
Date Posted: 05/18/2019 at 1:54pm
The question is whether you can use it unboosted at a high level. This guy afaik is using it not boosted. There's a girl who plays internationally, pesotska, who was photographed recently... And she is using donic desto f1 both sides. This model is more than 10 years old.
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Posted By: Lula
Date Posted: 05/18/2019 at 2:41pm
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also worth to mention is that aida Do not play so offensive But is chopping alot. Which i think is more impressive with mark v. Must have good feeling. But i think he just have markv on the backhand where he chops alot.
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Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 05/19/2019 at 12:46pm
But she s boosting a lot
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Posted By: smackman
Date Posted: 05/19/2019 at 6:37pm
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He may not be using Mark V, you only know he used to play with it ------------- Ulmo Duality,Donic BlueGrip C2 red max ,Yinhe Super Kim Ox Black NZ table tennis selector, third in the World (plate Doubles)I'm Listed on the ITTF website |
Posted By: FruitLoop
Date Posted: 05/19/2019 at 6:48pm
I personally saw Aida's racket about 8 months ago.
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Posted By: Egghead
Date Posted: 05/19/2019 at 9:44pm
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Acutally, can OP tell us what is on his FH? A long time ago, a coach told me that I did not need to use LP on my BH because I can use a slow rubber on my bh. ------------- Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX |
Posted By: pingpungpeng
Date Posted: 05/19/2019 at 10:33pm
probably some tenergy somebody gave away to him. he was always the opposite of an ej. I remember his mark v was so old that it had a different sponge from the current one being sold
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Posted By: ghostzen
Date Posted: 05/20/2019 at 3:38am
| Bobrow lost to the better player on the day... Doesnt really matter if that opponent plays with pimples, Mark V or anyrhing else. The skill of the player who is playing is key here. |
Posted By: Hans Regenkurt
Date Posted: 05/20/2019 at 6:52am
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I do not understand Bobrow at all. It is evident that he has got good opening strokes and he could follow up. Instead, he goes into lobbing after the second touch. |
Posted By: Pushblocker
Date Posted: 05/20/2019 at 7:00am
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Rich DeWitt is 2262 right now.. He has been holding at mid to upper 2200's lately. As far as I know, he still uses Mark V.. ------------- 2010 Florida State Champion Dr. Neubauer Firewall Plus Blade with DHS G666 1.5mm on forehand Giant Dragon Talon National Team OX on backhand |
Posted By: vanjr
Date Posted: 05/20/2019 at 10:48am
Bobrow is a showman. He lobs because that is his type of show. He plays for exciting points; he is not playing to win (although he is trying to) as he is playing to win via his style. Nothing wrong with this at all. He is having fun, like the rest of us.
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Posted By: pingpungpeng
Date Posted: 05/20/2019 at 11:35am
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II think the nature of the anti-ej is being misunderstood here. It's not that he has a weak bh so he decided to get a control rubber like mark v. It's just that he never needed anything faster... |
Posted By: mts388
Date Posted: 05/20/2019 at 12:03pm
I think Bobrow could play much better if he didn't lob, but he has more fun lobbing. He's more of a showman than a competitor.
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Posted By: balldance
Date Posted: 05/21/2019 at 2:55pm
I talked to Bobrow and he is much more competitive than he looks. Yes, he likes to have fun and chases beautiful points but he also wants to win badly, especially in tournaments. I think he's just more comfortable with his lobbing style, it's natural for him. He can hit good topspin but just sometimes to mix it up and catch his opponents off-guard. If he play topspin all the time, he will be nowhere as good as he is with the lobbing style. If you are under 2200, it's not easy to win Bobrow in a large venue with only powerful smashes.
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Posted By: pingpungpeng
Date Posted: 05/21/2019 at 3:16pm
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the sales of mark v rose at the same time as this thread was created. coincidende? now at position 3, one place above tenergy 05. http://world-tt.com/ps_goods/goods_ranking.php?gryr=201904" rel="nofollow - http://world-tt.com/ps_goods/goods_ranking.php?gryr=201904
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