Big hands: Looking for best blade
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Topic: Big hands: Looking for best blade
Posted By: Rollko
Subject: Big hands: Looking for best blade
Date Posted: 03/13/2020 at 2:50pm
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Hi all, |
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Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 03/13/2020 at 3:15pm
| Check legend handle from Stiga. This is best for big hands |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 03/13/2020 at 3:50pm
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https://en.butterfly.tt/omar-assar-7480.html" rel="nofollow - Butterfly Omar Assar is Kevlar Carbon blade that comes with FL Large handle, not only with regular FL. From my personal experience, Tibhar blades have big handles. If you prefer ALC blades, take https://ttgearlab.com/2017/05/16/tibhar-vs-unlimited-vs-butterfly-freitas-alc-comparison" rel="nofollow - VS Unlimited or Samsonov Stratus CB into consideration. Stratus Power Wood has those wider wings at the top of the handle/bottom of the head and ST handle so large that it was almost uncomfortable for me. And Samsonov Force Pro Black Edition has large handle, too.
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Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 03/13/2020 at 11:56pm
I second the Tibhar recommendation.
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Ray wrote:Posted By: Lightspin
Date Posted: 03/14/2020 at 4:00am
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I am going to suggest something that might work for you. If you have bigger hands, choke down on the racket. You can see how Bojan Tokic holds the paddle. If you do this, your grip won't be as dependent on the handle as when you have a more conventional grip where you choke up on the bat. It might take some getting used to but it might help out a lot with grip issues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe0ZhWnpmk0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe0ZhWnpmk0 If you don't want to change your grip, the ZJK alc is good or you can also try the viscaria.
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Posted By: Antonlan
Date Posted: 03/14/2020 at 5:32am
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I’ve hade similar issues. Tried TB ALC flared - way too small, and ZJK ALC straight which works much better for me. In general straight handles works better for me from a ”big hands perspective”. The handles still tend to be too short. Some people suggested ordering from a blade builder which is what I’ve done. Hipnotic (who has a thread here) has built me a Maze-like blade with a bulky handle (112x31x27). It still in shipping but I can report back when I have it.
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Posted By: Rollko
Date Posted: 03/14/2020 at 7:59am
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Hi Antanlan, I've had a chance to hold Zhang Jike ALC in Straight handle and it felt quite nice and solid. I haven't played with it though. The only thing that I'm concerned about is whether the handle won't get too slippery and unstable? I like to play aggressively with my FH as well with BH (classic short pips attacks) - would it be more difficult to keep the bat in hand on explosive shots? Timo Boll ALC seems to have an even thicker handle, any experience with that? There's a theory that Chinese players' strokes are more explosive because they use flared handles which lock their grip in place. Can I still play explosively with a steaight handle?
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Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 03/14/2020 at 8:38pm
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tsp fitter series of they still make it ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: benfb
Date Posted: 03/14/2020 at 9:06pm
| I have a friend with really huge hands. He just buys whatever blade he wants and then takes off the original handle and makes his own, bigger one. |
Posted By: Antonlan
Date Posted: 03/15/2020 at 7:52am
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I haven’t had any any issues with ZJK ALC being slippery. I haven’t played with TB ALC straight so can’t comment on that. My problem would be that even if it is possible to get a thicker commercial handle it would very likely still be to short...
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Posted By: Mickael
Date Posted: 03/15/2020 at 7:54am
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Omar assar butterfly. ------------- Nittaku Acoustic Carbon FL Butterfly Dignics 05 2.1 FH Butterfly Dignics 05 2.1 BH |
Posted By: bmontana33
Date Posted: 03/15/2020 at 10:15am
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Hi Rollko, I had a similar debate recently. I am a little over 6 ft 4 inches tall and have large hands. I had been using a Stiga Clipper Classic with Legend Flared (the larger of their two) handles. The handle was still thin in comparison to my hand and short, and as a result the handle moved around in my hand throughout the course of a volley and in particular when transiting between my FH and BH. After doing some research on the topic, I came across a few custom table tennis blade makers that could make a custom sized handle. After reaching out to a couple of them, I ended up working with BladesByCharlie.com (BBC). He is based in California, USA. I received my custom sized straight handle (longer and thicker) early last week. I was also a little nervous switching to a straight handle as I've never used one prior except for holding a fellow club members handle for a minute, but I had the chance to use it once last week and I'm loving it so far. It was so much more comfortable and natural feeling in my hand and I no longer felt like I had to make adjustments to how I held the blade when transitioning between my FH and BH. I am planning on doing a more thorough review of the blade (Hinoki Ghost) after I get to use it a few more times, though with the current health concerns going around, I may do it sooner than later as it may be a bit before our club resumes its normal meetups. But in short, I'm very impressed with the blade thus far. |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 03/15/2020 at 10:54am
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Posted By: SmackDAT
Date Posted: 03/15/2020 at 3:53pm
TB ALC ST is fine, I use it and so does timo boll. Go for it ------------- Zhang Jike ALC AN (88g) Tenergy 05 Hard (2.1, B) Tenergy 19 (2.1, R) https://goo.gl/bFWoxW" rel="nofollow - https://goo.gl/bFWoxW |
Posted By: Rollko
Date Posted: 03/15/2020 at 6:49pm
| Doesn't it get slippery/unstable on power forehand shots? Isn't Timo Boll ALC too handle heavy? (I prefer head have as with TBS) |
Posted By: taczkid
Date Posted: 03/16/2020 at 8:48am
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Get a handle grip for tt companies or go to sporting goods store (like Dick's or other) and buy a Tennis Racket grip, simply put it as much to as you feel comfortable with your big hand. Stick to FL Handle if that is what you played for many years. Simillar to Samsonov, he always used Grip and sort of put a lot of it in the middle of the Handle. Picking a blade by Handle is not the way to go, you want the blade that you like to play with the most. https://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=b-soft-rubber-grip" rel="nofollow - https://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=b-soft-rubber-grip https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/f/grips--tape--dampeners" rel="nofollow - https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/f/grips--tape--dampeners |
Posted By: Simas
Date Posted: 03/16/2020 at 12:36pm
Drop here! Yes, Legend handles are great, but it's hard to come by the blades with these handles... ------------- Stiga Offensive Classic Legend DHS Hurricane Neo3 Donic Bluefire JP01 Turbo |
Posted By: lilactime031
Date Posted: 03/17/2020 at 6:46pm
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Donic concave shape is made for big hands ------------- e-pingpongshop |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 03/24/2020 at 10:10am
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Wrap some tennis grip tape around the handle to make it more comfortable. I do that to all my blades now and it feels so much better. I used to play with a Donic Burn blade and that was probably the largest handle I've ever played with. I also have large hands. This is a good Off- blade that only costs about $50. If you don't like that then as someone has already mentioned, any of the Stiga blades with a Legend handle would be fine. Make sure you get the "Legend" handle and not the "Master" handle. The Legend is made for larger hands. Cheers ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: splasher78
Date Posted: 03/26/2020 at 5:31am
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TSP SWAT POWER FLARED VERSION. AND VICTAS KOKI NIWA WOOD BOTH HANDLES ALMOST IDENTICAL TO STIGA LEGEND FLARED BUT A BIT MORE COMFORTABLE ------------- My blades in rotation: OLDER, THINNER STIGA CLIPPER WOOD, STIGA AZALEA OFFENSIVE, KOKI NIWA WOOD H3 Provincial Orange Sponge Fh Tenergy 05 BH |
Posted By: doraemon
Date Posted: 03/27/2020 at 1:03am
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I prefer larger handle myself and I found that Tibhar Stratus Power Wood, Tibhar Stratus Samsonov Carbon, and Tibhar Force Pro Black have large handle which I believe can satisfy your need. I am talking about ST handle though, but their FL handles are large as well. However, playing characteristics of those blades would be different to your ALC blades. TSP Swat is OK, their ST is quite large and comfy. ------------- Blade : Just wood FH : black rubber BH : red rubber |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 03/27/2020 at 1:46am
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Charlie from BBC made a ST handled blade for James Therriault recently. I held it in my hands an KNEW it was the largest, most fitting ST handle on a TT blade I have ever held in my hands... and that handle was longer than average... which made it right easy to whip the ball at the end of a stroke. Sight unseen, I had a few FH with that one and it was massive spin. That handle was a real good lever, might have to hunt Charlie down for a similar ST handle with a different composition, I do not like Balsa. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: doraemon
Date Posted: 03/27/2020 at 3:34am
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Can I add a bit of my own observation here? I know that it feels better to hold a handle that fit your hand like a glove. However, I was curious, knowing that Wang Li Qin and Oh Sang Eun who are tall and I assume have large hands chose to play (in the past) with OC-CR master handle and Korbel FL/ST respectively. I know those have small handles. Ma Long also used to play with Violin and Acoustic which have very thin handle. I tried several blades with small handles, while they are not comfy but I found that it is better to maneuver the blade when you use small handle, which let your wrist doing full motion when necessary. And one more thing: Same handle type will feel different with different thickness of the blade. Legend handle on OC-CR (5.5 mm thickness blade) felt much smaller compared to Legend handle on Clipper (6.9 mm thickness blade). I think the golden middle is blade with 6.0 mm in thickness. ------------- Blade : Just wood FH : black rubber BH : red rubber |
Posted By: Rollko
Date Posted: 03/27/2020 at 5:34am
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There's one more that may have effect in an uncomfortable grip - using a non-spinny rubber on BH. Interestingly, I've noticed that every single bat I hold (borrowed from a friend, almost always with spinny pimples-in rubbers on) feels very stable in the grip regardless of the handle. This could be thanks to the index finger resting on a spinny BH rubber, and creating a strong grip with the thumb and index finger pressing against each other and thus supporting much of the weight of the bat. In my case, using a non-spinny rubber on BH (classic short pips) results in the index finger merely resting on the BH side with the weight of the bat being supported mainly by the bottom of the middle finger holding the weight just below the head - and this is where the problems arise when that part at the top of the handle is too thin. What are your opinions?
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Posted By: nathanso
Date Posted: 04/10/2020 at 7:33pm
Charlie at BBC has been making my blades with over-sized handles for years. Here's the latest handle iteration, called the CC. It's a full 4-1/2 inches long (114mm!) and 1-1/8 inches wide. The flat design helps me feel blade angle. ------------- BBC, SP, LP |
Posted By: Snakefish
Date Posted: 04/10/2020 at 11:30pm
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I'm surprised no one hasn't mentioned these blades yet Nittaku Violin LG (larger handle) and Accoustic LG (larger handle) Donic Senso Carbon and other senso blades with same handle I have friends who are about 6' 5" with really big hands who use these. Then the question of longer handles and/or those who prefer more girth (that's what she said)  ------------- Andro Treiber Z - fl FH: Tibhar MX-D max BH: Tibhar Quantum ProX-blue,max |
Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 01/29/2021 at 11:07pm
How much is this blade? ------------- My feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=79696 |
Posted By: Idefix
Date Posted: 02/06/2021 at 7:59am
| Hello, I have really big hands too and cannot play sufficiently with any conventional handle. I would also recommend a custom blade maker. The best I found is re-impact.de as the blades are special, too. They are based in Germany but ship worldwide and even have an English and French website. They make custom handles according to the individual dimensions of your hand and also offer some unusual grips: I got the "ship screw-handle" which is twisted. With this handle I do not have to change my grip between forehand and backhand strokes. The hand slips automatically into the right position. |
Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 02/07/2021 at 8:19am
Most of the blades from this website is over 10 mm thick, if you are not using long pip, it would be difficult to use such a thick blade right? ------------- My feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=79696 |
Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 02/09/2021 at 11:22pm
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Big headsize and super long handle. http://mytabletennis.net/forum/donier-rr-off-review_topic79867.html" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/donier-rr-off-review_topic79867.html ------------- My feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=79696 |
Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 02/09/2021 at 11:23pm
160*158 for headsize and 115 mm handle  ------------- My feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=79696 |
Posted By: Idefix
Date Posted: 02/11/2021 at 4:46pm
| Hello windysummer1, I cannot see a connection between the thickness of the blade and the suitability for certain rubbers. I personally know only 4 Re-Impact blades so far but most of the blades they have in stock are designed to play with inverted on both sides. My son is playing the model "T4" with inverted rubbers on both sides and has never played better before. They also have two blades specially made for antispin. Besides, most people playing with LP have an inverted rubber on the other side. Very heavy blades are probably less suited for people who play with thick (and heavy) sponges on both sides but as most of the Re-impact blades contain balsa they are very lightweight so they do not get too heavy when played with thick inverted rubbers. There is only one problem with thick blades: you might need two edge tapes! |
Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 02/11/2021 at 5:17pm
From my experience those LG handle almost same size as regular once. I didn't feel much difference |
Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 02/12/2021 at 7:34am
I think you can use your blade however they want, but this gentleman seems to agree it is best for long pips. http://mytabletennis.net/forum/reimpact-chevanti-blade_topic89618.html" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/reimpact-chevanti-blade_topic89618.html ------------- My feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=79696 |
Posted By: Idefix
Date Posted: 02/13/2021 at 2:43pm
| Some Re-Impact blades are probably best to be played with LP, but others play better with inverted on both sides. The "Chevanti" tommyzai refers is meant to play best with antispin-rubbers. The "T4" of my son is build to play best with inverted on both sides close to the table or mid-distance. It depends only on the construction of the blade, not on its thickness. |
Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 02/14/2021 at 1:17pm
Donier RR blade has a headsize 158*158 while the handle is 107mm long ------------- My feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=79696 |