Exist stiff all-round blade?
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Topic: Exist stiff all-round blade?
Posted By: merlin el mago
Subject: Exist stiff all-round blade?
Date Posted: 10/20/2020 at 7:22am
| Exist stiff all-round blade? I love Stiga Classic All-Round so I'm looking for the same speed with a little less flex & more stiff. |
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Posted By: Simon_plays
Date Posted: 10/20/2020 at 7:56am
| Nittaku Violin? |
Posted By: doraemon
Date Posted: 10/20/2020 at 9:33pm
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Stiga Allround NCT, it has the same composition as Stiga Allround Classic with thicker veneers (6 mm) and smaller head, thus makes it stiffer while maintaining the ALL+ speed. ------------- Blade : Just wood FH : black rubber BH : red rubber |
Posted By: pitigoi
Date Posted: 10/20/2020 at 9:45pm
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Stiga Allround NCT was discontinued. I hoarded six, three AN and three Master. Maybe Tibhar Samsonov Pure Wood? Has the required thickness. Or Donic World Champion 89 Appelgren ALL+? ------------- Right hand: Stiga Allround NCT (74g) /Rasant Grip max/Talon OX red (total 135g) Left hand, 2020-1: Stiga Allround WRB (67g)/Fastarc G-1 1.8mm/V11 > Extra max 158g Fitness Friendship Fun |
Posted By: Veet
Date Posted: 10/21/2020 at 2:08am
| How 'bout Stiga Allround Classic CR ? |
Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 10/21/2020 at 4:30am
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Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 10/21/2020 at 7:38pm
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I've got my eye on the Stiga Evolution All-Around. it's like the All-around Classic, but with a harder top ply. It's probably ALL+ to OFF-. ------------- For More Info, PM or Email me: [email protected] |
Posted By: doraemon
Date Posted: 10/21/2020 at 9:50pm
I was not aware that Stiga Allround NCT was discontinued. Thank you for the information. Is Offensive Wood NCT discontinued too? ------------- Blade : Just wood FH : black rubber BH : red rubber |
pitigoi wrote:Posted By: ludo
Date Posted: 10/21/2020 at 10:08pm
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Tibhar IV-L ..... Stiff and Soft Plays well with SP, LP, Anti and even hard Chinese rubbers.
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Posted By: Veet
Date Posted: 10/22/2020 at 12:42am
Yep .. I've played with it, although not with LP .. Quite a nice blade ... The only downside, for me, was the weight ... I'm also looking @ the Allaround CR variant ... It's a wee bit stiffer, and also lighter
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Posted By: elprup
Date Posted: 10/29/2020 at 12:17am
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Easy...Stiga Allround Classic Carbon. |
Posted By: merlin el mago
Date Posted: 10/29/2020 at 6:24am
Too expensive.
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Posted By: merlin el mago
Date Posted: 10/30/2020 at 10:30am
Too fast.
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Posted By: bars
Date Posted: 10/30/2020 at 4:10pm
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butterfly diode. donic defplay |
Posted By: merlin el mago
Date Posted: 10/31/2020 at 10:34am
| I own Donic Defplay, isn't stiff, it's flex. |
Posted By: pitigoi
Date Posted: 10/31/2020 at 10:41am
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Maybe Joola Chen Weixing? I know of players using it with LP OX, and they would prefer stiffer. I also heard it is more Allround+ than Defensive. ------------- Right hand: Stiga Allround NCT (74g) /Rasant Grip max/Talon OX red (total 135g) Left hand, 2020-1: Stiga Allround WRB (67g)/Fastarc G-1 1.8mm/V11 > Extra max 158g Fitness Friendship Fun |
Posted By: merlin el mago
Date Posted: 10/31/2020 at 12:29pm
| Chen Weixing isn't a push-blocker close to the table. |
Posted By: merlin el mago
Date Posted: 11/01/2020 at 6:20am
I own balsa core, not good for spin.
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Posted By: passifid
Date Posted: 11/01/2020 at 6:29am
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If you like the stiga all round classic but all-round carbon is too fast maybe look for a Chinese clone of this blade with more thickness? It will be faster but usually less flexy blades are faster. It seems like you want the blade equivalent of the mythic rubber that is like an anti when blocking and high spin when you want a power shots.
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Posted By: merlin el mago
Date Posted: 11/01/2020 at 8:01am
The mythic rubber exist: DHS Hurricane H3, I'm looking for the blade....
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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 11/01/2020 at 8:06am
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if you can find one, the Balsa Carbo X5. Very stiff and relatively slow. The offensive rating is because of its stiffness not because of its speed. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 11/01/2020 at 8:14am
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I use hurricane long 5 with H3 blue sponge on FH and Dignics 09c on the BH, it is a spin monster that will produce ridiculous amounts of spin, and super controllable in the short game. ------------- ------- Viscaria FH: Hurricane 8-80 BH: D05 Back to normal shape bats :( |
Posted By: merlin el mago
Date Posted: 11/01/2020 at 8:21am
| Guys I'm avoiding balsa because not good for FH Hurricane H3 spin, also the same for all carbon because it's too fast for my BH LP used as push-blocker close to the table. |
Posted By: Veet
Date Posted: 11/01/2020 at 11:04am
I still feel that the Stiga Allround Classic CR fits the bill ... Any particular reason for being averse to this recommendation ?
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Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 11/01/2020 at 11:18am
I'm not personally adverse to the All-round Classic CR, but I feel Stiga has recently developed better top plies than the CR coating thing, i.e., Evolution, Nostalgic, etc. Although I like the CR concept, I feel I can achieve those qualities with AFM BP Safecoat non-toxic sealant and UV hardening. Having said that, I would not pass up an FS thread opportunity for a good price on an All-round CR ST handle. ;-) It's a good recommendation! I just feel there might be a couple slightly better options by Stiga. ;-) BTW, I did pick up a Nittaku Violoncello. We'll see how that goes.
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Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 11/01/2020 at 11:19am
Haven't tried . . . probably like the original All-round Classic, but a little faster. Carbon does often expand the "sweetspot", but it also can reduct control and feel.
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Posted By: merlin el mago
Date Posted: 11/01/2020 at 12:42pm
The CR SYSTEM is when the front part of the blade is UV-finished, which yields a reasonably increased speed to the ball. I have Metal that's also front part of the blade treated with dust metal & don't liked the feeling.
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Posted By: Veet
Date Posted: 11/01/2020 at 2:43pm
I've played with the Allround CR, I did not find any noticeable increase in speed. However, I did find it stiffer than the regular Allaround
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Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 11/01/2020 at 3:43pm
Blade stiffness (lack of flex) and Blade hardness (top ply rebound) are two different things. While CR blades are good for the plastic ball (hardness, rebound speed) they are not necessarily stiff. Hope that helps. ------------- http://bit.ly/vLMhuB" rel="nofollow - - RC1042 . OSP Virtuoso AC: PK50 + R42 |
Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 11/01/2020 at 5:51pm
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Stiga All-round CR is less likely to splinter . . . although I would still over seal it. You're looking for stiff, so . . . it will be even stiffer with a slight bump in speed. ------------- For More Info, PM or Email me: [email protected] |
Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 11/01/2020 at 11:31pm
The small one, the 157mm might fit the bill. I only played with the big one, and found it was truly ALL and had superb ball control. Top ply seemed a little harder than the construction for the Virtuoso; it should suit pips well. ------------- http://bit.ly/vLMhuB" rel="nofollow - - RC1042 . OSP Virtuoso AC: PK50 + R42 |
Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 11/08/2020 at 11:05am
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Decided to sell my new Nittaku Violoncello. ------------- For More Info, PM or Email me: [email protected] |
Posted By: merlin el mago
Date Posted: 11/09/2020 at 10:37am
Could I ask why?
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Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 11/09/2020 at 10:56am
It's lovely, but maybe too lovely . . . I prefer the extra vibration found in lower quality blades . . . or the other extreme - a solid powerhouse. But, it might be more accurate to declare, I am simply insane and/or enjoy passing along great blades to other MYTT members.
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