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Topic: DTTW Equipment Reviews Database
Posted By: shij421
Subject: DTTW Equipment Reviews Database
Date Posted: 01/18/2007 at 12:53am
Feel free to contribute to the review database =)

http://www.tabletennis.gr/equipment/equipment.asp - http://www.tabletennis.gr/equipment/equipment.asp

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Violin FL
Tenergy 05 2.1 Black
Tenergy 05 FX 2.1 Red



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Posted By: adambty
Date Posted: 01/18/2007 at 1:34am
forget about posting anything into that forum. I have seen some review being removed. Forum posting and reviews must satisfy a group of moderators and friends. Either your posting gets deleted, edited or you get banned if you dont comply to their satisfaction.


Posted By: Jon2378
Date Posted: 01/18/2007 at 1:43am
^ haha

such bitterness...

being banned for nubness from dttw seems to have really hurt you


Posted By: shij421
Date Posted: 01/18/2007 at 1:53am
well as long as you don't spam the reviews with pornography links, I think you're fine =) Many people probably purchase equipment based on the reviews from that equipment reviews database, so I think contributing to it would be very helpful for all of us

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Violin FL
Tenergy 05 2.1 Black
Tenergy 05 FX 2.1 Red


Posted By: *JC*
Date Posted: 01/18/2007 at 2:08am
you get kicked out for being a idiot, who says everyone should use bryce unglued

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Thats not a knife
THIS is a knife.
Thats not a knife
THATS a spoon.


Posted By: ichorvile
Date Posted: 01/18/2007 at 2:15am
Originally posted by shij421 shij421 wrote:

Many people probably purchase equipment based on the reviews from that equipment reviews database, so I think contributing to it would be very helpful for all of us


I agree... I'm a beginner and have only recently bought my own custom bat. While searching around, dttw and this forum were my only sources of information (THANKS EVERYONE!). I wish there were more in-depth reviews though... I'm tired of seeing one liners like, "This blade is the best, go buy it!!! (10/10)". They start to sound like an advertising gimick if you ask me.


Posted By: adambty
Date Posted: 01/18/2007 at 2:22am

few weeks ago I was reading review on a product, a few posting was missing when I read again recently. 

Yesterday when a new online vendor introduce himself to the forumers... apparently there is a moderator selling the same products as this new online vendor... guess what, all the friends of moderators jump on him and accused and discredit the new vendor. 

http://www.tabletennis.gr/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6404 - http://www.tabletennis.gr/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6404

When you try to give good review of a product, if the product is not endorsed by the group of moderators and friends, that review will be unfairly distorted to their benefit.

There is even once moderators were helping their friend to blackmail an online vendor to give replace a new bryce for a 6 month old used sriver, whhere they claim the online vendor selling fake products.  ( actual posting was heavily edited by the moderators to safe-guard themself and forumers being banned for posting against the cheat )

http://www.tabletennis.gr/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5837 - http://www.tabletennis.gr/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5837

if you do not believe, try it yourself. That forum is really a disgrace. Luckily this forum is not like them. Unfortunately a few members from the other forum is here... hopefully they will not cause any harm here.

 

 



Posted By: adambty
Date Posted: 01/18/2007 at 2:34am

Originally posted by *JC* *JC* wrote:

you get kicked out for being a idiot, who says everyone should use bryce unglued

he was kicked out because the moderators and friends does not agree with his  opinion.  That forum has only opinion and reviews of moderators and friends and nobody else. Even though an opinion is not the best, he should still be entitled to his opinion and not being called idiot and banned.

 



Posted By: silvalis
Date Posted: 01/18/2007 at 2:47am
You're really cut about DTTW, aren't you...

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Potato Face


Posted By: adambty
Date Posted: 01/18/2007 at 2:53am

Originally posted by ichorvile ichorvile wrote:


I agree... I'm a beginner and have only recently bought my own custom bat. While searching around, dttw and this forum were my only sources of information (THANKS EVERYONE!). I wish there were more in-depth reviews though... I'm tired of seeing one liners like, "This blade is the best, go buy it!!! (10/10)". They start to sound like an advertising gimick if you ask me.

oh really, can you tell us what did you buy (blade and rubber), at what price and where did you buy it from ?

 



Posted By: *JC*
Date Posted: 01/18/2007 at 4:03am
lol, your cut like a cut thing man.
get over it and stop trying to claim moral high ground.

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Thats not a knife
THIS is a knife.
Thats not a knife
THATS a spoon.


Posted By: wfwfitz
Date Posted: 01/18/2007 at 5:59am
There is more action on DTTW than i realised.  I must visit it more often.

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Wfwfitz
Xiom Axelo
Xiom Sigma Pro Red and Black
Butterfly Amultart
Tenergy 05 Black and Red 64


Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 01/19/2007 at 10:54pm
ive been a rubber and blade reviewer for DTTW for 3 years now.. we have to accept the facts that there are established facts on equipments and when somebody posts idiotic statements like "unbeaten since using unglued bryce fx" its really annoying.. i like that forum because there are less spammers compared to this forum

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Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS

ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach


Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 01/19/2007 at 11:54pm
I don't think I've ever seen a spammer on this forum.

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Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b

Please let me know if I can be of assistance.


Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 01/19/2007 at 11:56pm
Oh, and by the way.  If someone gives idiot advice, just say, "hey that's idiot advice."  Don't ban them.
 
That said, I don't have any idea what happened over there. But hopefully someone wasn't banned just for being an idiot.  I think you should have to be a profane idiot to be banned.


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Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b

Please let me know if I can be of assistance.


Posted By: Leeroy
Date Posted: 01/20/2007 at 12:32am
LOL Big%20smile
 
Oh my...Just read those threads Big%20smile.  Adam do you have many different names?  Like GUEST, pingpongrob ? 


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Blade: Galaxy U4
BH: DHS H2 (orange)
FH: DHS G666 or 729 40H German ESN

http://www.myspace.com/leethedream


Posted By: fatcomet
Date Posted: 01/20/2007 at 12:43am
aww hay you guys Ermm


Posted By: Leeroy
Date Posted: 01/20/2007 at 5:49am
Actually when I think about it I havn't seen any dodgies on mytabletennis myself...

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Blade: Galaxy U4
BH: DHS H2 (orange)
FH: DHS G666 or 729 40H German ESN

http://www.myspace.com/leethedream


Posted By: Jolan
Date Posted: 01/20/2007 at 9:28am
Originally posted by ichorvile ichorvile wrote:

I wish there were more in-depth reviews though... I'm tired of seeing one liners like, "This blade is the best, go buy it!!! (10/10)". They start to sound like an advertising gimick if you ask me.
True ! But you have to consider also that most of the reviewers only feel the need of posting when they are very satisfied about 1 specific item. Therefore, it's logical they rate it 10/10 since they don't want to do a real review but rather a "must-buy". I know what I'm talking about since I posted there 3 times, sorry Confused...I swear next time I try a crap equipment, I'll let everybody know...If ever somebody is interrested (very doubtful...).


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Joola Wyzaryz Freeze
Vega pro 2.0mm
Vega intro 2.0mm
Blade collection : https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9" rel="nofollow - https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9


Posted By: Jolan
Date Posted: 01/20/2007 at 9:34am
Originally posted by cole_ely cole_ely wrote:

Oh, and by the way.  If someone gives idiot advice, just say, "hey that's idiot advice."  Don't ban them.
 
That said, I don't have any idea what happened over there. But hopefully someone wasn't banned just for being an idiot.  I think you should have to be a profane idiot to be banned.
Very good Clap. Thank you Cole. If all the idiots in the world were banned from forums, I shall feel very unsecure.


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Joola Wyzaryz Freeze
Vega pro 2.0mm
Vega intro 2.0mm
Blade collection : https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9" rel="nofollow - https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9


Posted By: ichorvile
Date Posted: 01/22/2007 at 11:44am
Originally posted by jcdi jcdi wrote:

Originally posted by ichorvile ichorvile wrote:

I wish there were more in-depth reviews though... I'm tired of seeing one liners like, "This blade is the best, go buy it!!! (10/10)". They start to sound like an advertising gimick if you ask me.
True ! But you have to consider also that most of the reviewers only feel the need of posting when they are very satisfied about 1 specific item. Therefore, it's logical they rate it 10/10 since they don't want to do a real review but rather a "must-buy". I know what I'm talking about since I posted there 3 times, sorry Confused...I swear next time I try a crap equipment, I'll let everybody know...If ever somebody is interrested (very doubtful...).


Now that you mention it, that makes sense. Also, thank you for doing those three reviews! I'm sure they helped many people choose good equipment.

When I was researching to buy my first few blades and rubbers, I got frustrated because I couldn't see the "whole" picture. At that point, it seemed like I learned a lot more from the reviews of equipment that got 7s and 8s (since they always had pros and cons)...

On the other hand, I had lots of trouble comparing amongst the gear that were rated 'must buy' 9s or 10s (this was before I found mytabletennis.net Tongue).

I guess product comparisons are much better on forum posts anyway... so I'm a happy camper.




Posted By: kmh888
Date Posted: 01/23/2007 at 1:09pm
that forum is biased..ive seen posts deleted as well.

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Gatien Extra
FH: Hurricane Provincial
BH: Palio CJ800 Speed

Special thick glue


Posted By: adambty
Date Posted: 01/26/2007 at 5:05am
kmh888, good to see that you also noticed.
 
Most of the "experts" who gives "good advice", they themself ends up with a dozen of blades... these "experts" dont even know what is good for themself, instead they called others idiots for disputing their claims.
 
When the "experts" were not able to respond to the "idiots" dispute. The easiest way to win a dispute is to ban the "idiots" so that "experts" is always right, even though they are not.
 
you probably seen recently how pingpongrob was attacked and discredited. 
 


Posted By: Jolan
Date Posted: 01/26/2007 at 10:07am
Originally posted by adambty adambty wrote:

kmh888, good to see that you also noticed.
 
Most of the "experts" who gives "good advice", they themself ends up with a dozen of blades... these "experts" dont even know what is good for themself, instead they called others idiots for disputing their claims.
 
When the "experts" were not able to respond to the "idiots" dispute. The easiest way to win a dispute is to ban the "idiots" so that "experts" is always right, even though they are not.
 
you probably seen recently how pingpongrob was attacked and discredited. 
 
I'm puzzled. Does that mean you are authorized to give "good advice" only if you have used 1 single blade for years ? I'd rather ask advice to someone who has tried many sort of equipment instead of one...At least it sounds logical to me. Furthermore I've seen many posts at DTTW's making fun of self proclaimed experts rather than posts from people pretending knowing the holy truth. The last one I saw was a guy called "kenn" who was 100% sure that the best rubber ever is bryce unglued...He was doing a kind of parano�ac crisis every time someone else mentioned he could be wrong and at the end, yes, he got banned. I hope this kind of event will never happen here.


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Joola Wyzaryz Freeze
Vega pro 2.0mm
Vega intro 2.0mm
Blade collection : https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9" rel="nofollow - https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9


Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 01/26/2007 at 10:47am
Which is why I try to focus on what a certain racket does best.  It's possible "niche."  Why you might choose one or the other out of a similar pair of good rackets.  There are always trade-offs.  Nothing does everything the best.

That said, there is some equipment out there that is just JUNK.  There's no sense in beating around the bush.

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Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b

Please let me know if I can be of assistance.


Posted By: adambty
Date Posted: 01/26/2007 at 1:49pm
jcdi,
 
You will need a good knowledge of a blade before you can give a good review. A person with a single blade for many years will definately know that blade well enough to give a decent review of it. With this knowledge, he definately can review other blades by using his main blade as a benchmark. You do not have to own a dozen of blades to review them.
 
As for "Kenn", I dont see anything harmful by saying "Bryce is the Best unglued"., I dont think anyone will listen to him anyway, unless he is Timo Boll or someone very influential. There are probably 100's of others claiming their rubber is the best and none deserve a ban for that.
 
I dont remember "Kenn" going parano�ac anywhere in DTTW, it was the DTTW moderators and friends going parano�ac when they were unable to dispute what "Kenn" has to say. The moderators and their friends has to win all the time.
 
It was not because of "Bryce is the Best" topic that got "Kenn" banned in DTTW forum.
 
It was in other topics when the moderators were unable to dispute what "Kenn" said and they get very angry and starts to selectively modify, delete his postings to make "Kenn" looks bad and making fun of him. "Kenn" was pointing out this unethical behaviour of moderators of DTTW and that got him banned.
 
 
 


Posted By: Leeroy
Date Posted: 01/26/2007 at 4:33pm
Wow!  Yes I would have to go and agree with you on that adambty.  It is more than disgraceful some of the antics of some.  I know what ya on about.  I have received such myself.
 
I remember when Kenn brought up "Bryce is the best".  People got stuck into him like cut up losers.  And then Kenn is now portrayed as the culprit.
 
People treated Kenn like sh*t.  Was it warranted?  No 
 
I bet ya certain mods and people grilled him, he bited back with "reason", then they edited there posts leaving him standing alone for slim pickings.
 
You get that bullsh*t and move on.  I did.  You get to know who the real losers are, and Kenn aint one of them. 


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Blade: Galaxy U4
BH: DHS H2 (orange)
FH: DHS G666 or 729 40H German ESN

http://www.myspace.com/leethedream


Posted By: fatcomet
Date Posted: 01/26/2007 at 5:13pm
in before we violate the 'don't talk on other forums' rule
oh wait...

anyway guys this is really lame

sorry shij that your link to the seemingly harmless DTTW database immediately became an 'aww hay you guys ppl were mean to me on the interwebsCry'  discussion... right from reply #1


Posted By: Leeroy
Date Posted: 01/27/2007 at 12:16am
*adding more rules*
 
You think this is lame fatcomet?  What about rules on such lameness adambty mentioned? 
 
If this is lame to you what would you classify what adambty mentioned since you decided to put your "lame" opinion tag on in ?
 
Anyway, I don't think it's lame, I think it's decidedly noteable and convenient.  I have seen much lamer things but hey thanks for your opinion on it *sigh*.. I'm sure you'd know fatcomet...
 
Anyway your right about getting off the topic with it and i'll get in and try steer the topic back :D. 
 
Thinking about the DTTW equipment review database I know there are many chinese equipment that you can't review there.  I have heaps of equipment I liked to review but couldn't there.  I noticed they have every Jap/Euro rubber covered and always updated with any new equipment.  Not so for chinese equipment which I find interesting... 
 
Now that this topic has veered like this (as it does in much more worser cases elsewhere) *wink and sigh to the lame taggers*, I thought it would be a good idea if you could edit your reviews on the DTTW database.  I propped up a few 10 out of 10's with first initial rubbers I used as a fair beginner.  But got other equipment over time and wouldn't mind going back with a better understanding to do an updated, better re-review of those rubbers or blades.
 
They have edit feature in the forums as adambty touched on.  Why not in the equipment review database?  I thought that would be more convenient.  Especially compared to the fact anyone can edit there posts in the forums which is can be much more than lame.  Hey aint that right fatcomet since supposedly we..uhh *sigh* broke some rules ?


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Blade: Galaxy U4
BH: DHS H2 (orange)
FH: DHS G666 or 729 40H German ESN

http://www.myspace.com/leethedream


Posted By: Dimos
Date Posted: 01/27/2007 at 7:47am
Originally posted by Leeroy Leeroy wrote:

 
They have edit feature in the forums as adambty touched on.  Why not in the equipment review database?  I thought that would be more convenient. 


Nice idea BUT if I put an edit function then the reviews/comment could be edited from everyone because there is login procedure to keep records from specific usernames.

However as you have seen near the rating there is a unique id number. You could sent me the id and the new text and/or the new rating and I will do it for you.

Denis


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DTTW
http://www.tabletennis.gr
http://www.tabletennisforum.gr


Posted By: Jolan
Date Posted: 01/27/2007 at 3:32pm

Woaw ! Denis was here....did you see that ! When greek gods are stepping down the stairs of Olympia and are melting with the rest of us mortal human beings. Do you realise we're living a unique moment of grace.

More seriously, "Dimos", I can't see any reason to modify the equipment rating functions which is very informative. Posters just have to take care about  what they post and readers don't take everything for granted. We are big boys after all.



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Joola Wyzaryz Freeze
Vega pro 2.0mm
Vega intro 2.0mm
Blade collection : https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9" rel="nofollow - https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9


Posted By: adambty
Date Posted: 01/28/2007 at 6:40pm
Originally posted by Leeroy Leeroy wrote:

They have edit feature in the forums as adambty touched on.  Why not in the equipment review database?  I thought that would be more convenient.  Especially compared to the fact anyone can edit there posts in the forums which is can be much more than lame.  Hey aint that right fatcomet since supposedly we..uhh *sigh* broke some rules ?
 
In fact they do have an "edit" feature in their entire website, including the equipment review... the "moderators" hahaha If the moderators sees whatever they dont like, they will remove or edit postings to their own likings :)
 
I wonder how they are going to get any other opinion in DTTW forum other than the moderators & friends opinion... think again, is it worth reading or geting involved in such a forum ?


Posted By: kenneyy88
Date Posted: 01/28/2007 at 8:25pm
Those reviews are fairly useless. Theres a better site.


Posted By: shij421
Date Posted: 01/28/2007 at 8:43pm
Originally posted by kenneyy88 kenneyy88 wrote:

Those reviews are fairly useless.  Theres a better site.


You must have a reason for saying this, please elaborate on why you think the reviews are useless?


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Violin FL
Tenergy 05 2.1 Black
Tenergy 05 FX 2.1 Red



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