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a 2100 player is 2100 average skill against all kinds of styles.  if one has to prepare only for one specific style, i think it is possible to be have a lower level general skill, but very high skill against one style, with enough focused training. for example he can train set plays. since you can't put your own spin on the return, it would be easy for him to train on the set plays since he doesn't need to prepare for a wide variety of returns.

Pushblocker wrote: Speedplay wrote: I'm pretty sure there is a video of Fruitloop vs Boz, al though it won't reveal much, other then that Fruitloop do have some skill. I'd think that you are refering to this video   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGQl96Njcr0   This was 2 years ago, so he might be better than in the video.. If he still plays like in that video, I really like my chances..

Your style + DtecS will murder him. 

addoydude wrote: a 2100 player is 2100 average skill against all kinds of styles.  if one has to prepare only for one specific style, i think it is possible to be have a lower level general skill, but very high skill against one style, with enough focused training. for example he can train set plays. since you can't put your own spin on the return, it would be easy for him to train on the set plays since he doesn't need to prepare for a wide variety of returns.

I don't disagree.. We have a guy at the club who is a "specialist" against long pips, especially low friction ones..  In about 30 matches against him, I have never beaten him.. Since a few months, I actually passed his rating but he still beats me. (even though his rating is not really a actual reflection of his skills as he doesn't play too many tournaments and he would be a lot higher if he would). He is 2226 rated and I'm 2246. Recently, I had my closest loss ever to him.. He beat me 4:3 in a best of 7 match (he always wants to play best of 7), 11:8 in the fifth. I'm getting closer and closer and eventually, I'll even beat the long pips expert..

roundrobin wrote: Pushblocker wrote: Speedplay wrote: I'm pretty sure there is a video of Fruitloop vs Boz, al though it won't reveal much, other then that Fruitloop do have some skill. I'd think that you are refering to this video   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGQl96Njcr0   This was 2 years ago, so he might be better than in the video.. If he still plays like in that video, I really like my chances.. Your style + DtecS will murder him.

yes, he would murder me

Fruit loop wrote: Pushblocker wrote: Fruit loop wrote: That would be fantastic. i'm sure it would be a great match Where in Australia are you located? I've always wanted to travel there.. Maybe early next year would be a possibility, depending on my work schedule.. This years vacation is already planned.... California, Hawaii and Mexico... Brisbane. close to the gold or sunshine coast if you want a nice holiday ^^

Nice, that's the area that I was most interested in anyways..  That general area has the nicest beaches, so I heared Hopefully it'll work out... Again, it all depends on my schedule and also what the boss (the wife) has to say

Fruit loop wrote: roundrobin wrote: Pushblocker wrote: Speedplay wrote: I'm pretty sure there is a video of Fruitloop vs Boz, al though it won't reveal much, other then that Fruitloop do have some skill. I'd think that you are refering to this video   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGQl96Njcr0   This was 2 years ago, so he might be better than in the video.. If he still plays like in that video, I really like my chances.. Your style + DtecS will murder him.  yes, he would murder me

Looks like 2100 level, tops... Staight games for PB.  No contest.

Being the best long pimple blocker without an offensive stroke is like winning the paralympics. Nobody really gives a f**k. You can defend your style and your mental abilities all you want. People know that you're stubborn and no matter what is thrown you'll find some justification as to why your style is skillful. Sure, you're a good player and it requires skill but that's where this conversation should end.


Did he even ask you to give a f**K?  That's so funny... And who are the "people" you are talking about?  People like you?

Winning the paralympics is a lot harder than you think... Even with your arms and legs intact you probably can't take a single game from many top Paralympics players. 

He doesn't have anything to prove and neither do I. I havn't pretended or bignoted my own skills. The only thing i've mentioned is that i do well against non inverted rubbers from the selection i have to play against.

Could you have said it in a nicer way or you felt PB deserved your "f**king" remark? 

roundrobin wrote: He doesn't have anything to prove and neither do I. I havn't pretended or bignoted my own skills. The only thing i've mentioned is that i do well against non inverted rubbers from the selection i have to play against. Could you have said it in a nicer way or you felt PB deserved your "f**king" remark?

I thought it provided adequate emphasis =)

Fruit loop wrote: roundrobin wrote: Being the best long pimple blocker without an offensive stroke is like winning the paralympics. Nobody really gives a f**k. You can defend your style and your mental abilities all you want. People know that you're stubborn and no matter what is thrown you'll find some justification as to why your style is skillful. Sure, you're a good player and it requires skill but that's where this conversation should end. Did he even ask you to give a f**K?  That's so funny... And who are the "people" you are talking about?  People like you? Winning the paralympics is a lot harder than you think... Even with your arms and legs intact you probably can't take a single game from many top Paralympics players.  Do you care or even know who won the paralympics? My point is that a lot more people care about the regular olympics than the paralympics. I admit i may have been a bit harsh but the point is still there.

The Paralympic Champion is Ma Lin from China, a solid 2700-level player.

I train regularly with Norman Bass, a well-known U.S. Paralympic player.  I am also a friend of Mitch Seidenfeld, one of the best Paralympic players in history in his category.  Paralympic players train as hard as regular players.


Edited by roundrobin - 05/23/2011 at 10:44pm

roundrobin wrote: The Paralympic Champion is Ma Lin from China, a solid 2700-level player.

That's not the reigning Olympic champ, right? Anyway, if he is really 2700, he can beat most national champs in the world!

yes I am surprised too. I would probably rate you around 1850- 1900 tops.  Most players in my club rated over 1850+ would probably smoke you (fruitloop). 

Edited by jayharoons - 05/24/2011 at 2:02am

jayharoons wrote: yes I am surprised too. I would probably rate you around 1850- 1900 tops.  Most players in my club rated over 1850+ would probably smoke you (fruitloop).

I've read somewhere that he made a city or county level team since then, so I figure he's probably better than the video...

One of the posts here at Mytabletennis.net...

addoydude wrote: Fruitloop do you really use OX short pips on both sides?

I use hurricane 3 and tenergy 64 on a timo boll spark