Qiu Dang

kakapo wrote: Is this a thread dedicated to Qiu Dang ?

zeio wrote: Since when has this thread been dedicated to Qiu Dang? It started out about his equipment, did not receive the first reply for almost 1 year and was abandoned for almost 5 years. Either way, in his latest interview, he states that he uses TB ALC custom, D09C on FH and D05 on BH.

jackwong23 wrote: Wow, Dang is  ranked no 10 in the world now.  Best penhold player outside china

Edited by jackwong23 - 08/21/2022 at 11:37am

This year, Qiu Dang won...

(In)convenient fact. GÜNDÜZ İbrahim was leading 3-2.
https://results.mun.mev.atos.net/ECM2022/en/results/table-tennis/results-men-s-singles-r64-001600-.htm



Same for Qiu Dang.
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91449&PID=1124194&title=europe-top-16-2022#1124194

As with Harimoto and LYJ, it takes more than 1 or 2 remarkable tournaments to draw a conclusion. More players will study Moregard's game now and how he will cope with that is what counts and yet to be seen.

https://forum.tt-news.de/showpost.php?p=3410041&postcount=955

mein fazit des turniers: dang qiu hatte die erwartungen im doppel und mixed nicht erfüllt hier blieb er ohne edelmedall. im einzel stand er in der ersten runde gegen den in der letzten saison noch in der 3.liga spielenden günduz auch bereits kurz vor dem aus! auch wenn letztlich zwar die fakten zählen hätte ihn da wieder so gut wie jeder komplett zerissen ein paar läppische bälle sollen also zwischen unten durch und europas nummer 1 liegen. nicht mit mir wer das meint hat einfach absout keinen weitblick dann wäre nach praktisch jedem turnier ein anderer bester europäer und das ist natürlich totaler bullshit man muss schon immer das große und ganz im auge behalten! und man liegt hier sogar aus mehreren gründen daneben denn wenn man dangs aufschläge moniert zugleich aber meint dass er völlig verdient europameister geworden wäre dann passt das hinten und vorne nicht zusammen das impliziert doch dass er sich aus angeblich unlauteren mitteln einen vorteil verschafft hätte. auch hier wieder pustekuchen alles vollkommen in ordnung ein paar aufschläge hatte er ohnehin abgezählt bekommen und der rest war auch okay und nicht falscher als bei anderen. man muss einen zeitraum von ca. 1 jahr hernehmen und die wichtigsten paramteter wie wie wrl tourergebnisse und verein einbeziehen und daraus einen querschnitt nehmen. dang hatte zuletzt auch ein gewisses tal wurde in budapest vom seit länger zeit extrem schwankenden harimoto komplett auseinander genommen hier hat er im doppel und mixed enttäuscht und stand im einzel in der 1.runde gegen einen spieler der vor lin der letzten runde noch in der 3.liga gespielt hatte unmittelbar vor dem aus und große titel hatte er bisher auch noch nicht geholt. das reicht nicht für europas nummer 1! aber er ist oben mit dabei wird sich in den top 15 etablieren und ist er in der form sicherlich auch für eine nominierung bei den olympischen spielen 2024 in paris favorisiert.

my conclusion of the tournament:

dang qiu did not meet the expectations in doubles and mixed, here he remained without a medal. in singles he was in the first round against günduz, who was still playing in the 3rd league last season, almost out! even if ultimately the facts count, almost everyone should have torn him up a few silly balls between the bottom and Europe's number 1. not with me who says that simply has absolutely no vision then after practically every tournament there would be another best european and of course that is total bullshit you always have to keep an eye on the big one!

and one is even wrong here for several reasons, because if one complains about dang's surcharges but at the same time thinks that he deservedly became European champion, then the back and front don't fit together, which implies that he would have gained an advantage from allegedly unfair means. here again puff cake everything perfectly fine he had been counted a few serves anyway and the rest was also okay and no more wrong than with others.

you have to take a period of about 1 year and include the most important parameters such as wrl tour results and club and take a cross-section from them. dang also had a certain valley recently was completely taken apart in budapest by harimoto, who had been extremely unstable for a long time. here he disappointed in doubles and mixed and stood in the 1st round in singles against a player who was still in the 3rd round before the last round .liga had played right before the end and he hadn't won any big titles yet.

that's not enough for europe's number 1! but he is up there will establish himself in the top 15 and in this form he is certainly favored for a nomination at the olympic games in paris in 2024.

Edited by zeio - 08/25/2022 at 1:41pm

Matt Pimple wrote: kakapo wrote: Is this a thread dedicated to Qiu Dang ? No, it's a pissing contest.

Tieba users ponder where Qiu Dang would stand on the CNT, citing his close matches against LGY and LJK.

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7988317396

Best European player and penhold player outside China!


http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76840&PID=1130799&title=qiu-dang#1130799

Same for Qiu Dang. http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91449&PID=1124194&title=europe-top-16-2022#1124194 As with Harimoto and LYJ, it takes more than 1 or 2 remarkable tournaments to draw a conclusion. More players will study Moregard's game now and how he will cope with that is what counts and yet to be seen.

Edited by jackwong23 - 10/02/2022 at 11:10am

ZApenholder wrote: Individual player ranking in teams tournament is just stupid and no ideal why they doing it. China will win 3-0 every time. So each player can only have 5 matches (if they are not rested). While many other players will need to play a 2nd match, thus have around 10 matches (and not being rested) This is why individual players ranking was removed as FTW ended with more points than say the champion team players (China). So if ITTF has decided this change in ranking point by individual players as no longer going to happen, then why WTT is still focusing on individual ranking that doesn't make sense nor gives the individual player any reward.

Edited by NextLevel - 10/03/2022 at 10:47am

Qiu Dang, can't you move to the top already?


Edited by zeio - 10/03/2022 at 12:14pm

I would not bother about this garbage list. The strength of opponents are not even taken into consideration. For example anyone who beat a few weak North America and Africa players only would also make the top of this list. 

ZApenholder wrote: NextLevel wrote: ZApenholder wrote: Individual player ranking in teams tournament is just stupid and no ideal why they doing it. China will win 3-0 every time. So each player can only have 5 matches (if they are not rested). While many other players will need to play a 2nd match, thus have around 10 matches (and not being rested) This is why individual players ranking was removed as FTW ended with more points than say the champion team players (China). So if ITTF has decided this change in ranking point by individual players as no longer going to happen, then why WTT is still focusing on individual ranking that doesn't make sense nor gives the individual player any reward. The logic isn't perfect for knockouts but I am not entirely against it.  In many league or Swiss-pairing systems, they are trying to give incentive to an MVP, or the player who helps his team the most with an outstanding performance.  The player is almost never the best player (depending on how the ranking is done) if you use a metric like wins and losses rather than something that has some expert input, but it is good/fun to reward performances.   Well, ITTF disagree with you, hence they removed individual ranking point allocation, to prevent awarding a non Chinese to get more wins than Chinese players. if Ma Long played every match, and only has 1 match (China has 3-0 all the way to the final). He would still not have over 8 matches (4 groups and 4 ko), unlike some players would have 8 matches in group stages already. You can't weigh player 2 matches, because your team can't win 3-0 over a player who only need to play 1 match. For the sake of MVP, maybe Chinese players need to start loosing, to boost they number 1 player to win 2 matches each time? Maybe rather have win %, and sort by team ranking? So, having said that, those 2 matches should equate to lower the value as a 1 match (with team 3-0) wins. No idea how they going to do that, but you can't have an MVP like Feng, on the loosing team, while an all 3-0 in all 8 matches doesn't even give you more wins than Feng, thus ranked/rated lower.

Just to clear things up. Don't fuss over that table. I posted them just to agitate amberheard23.