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    Posted: 07/23/2012 at 12:58pm
OK looking for a blade that fits the following requirements:

Slow -- Def or ALL speed
Some flex -- should still be able to hit a good loop
Straight handle available
Good balance and feel, lots of control

Please suggest! Here are some I'm considering:

Donic Defplay Senso -- heard it has a lot of vibration and is a bit head-heavy. If I could get it without the "Senso" hollow handle, it may be perfect. Good blend of def speed and flex.

Yasaka Extra -- this may be my best option, but not too sure how popular it is among defenders?

Gambler Aralyte Carbon -- unfortunately, the regular sized blade is no longer available with straight handle and I'm not sure I want to go to the huge oversized style. I don't want anything to impede my quickness when switching from BH to FH. I don't mind slightly oversized blades, but the pure defense blades look a little too big/awkward for my game.

Maybe I should just stick with my Daweii -- I really don't have any complaints about it, I just can't help but think I am missing something by playing with a $12 blade. LOL
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Yeah that looks pretty good if I want to spend that much dough Smile
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Originally posted by chopchopslam chopchopslam wrote:

OK looking for a blade that fits the following requirements:

Slow -- Def or ALL speed
Some flex -- should still be able to hit a good loop
Straight handle available
Good balance and feel, lots of control

Please suggest! Here are some I'm considering:

Donic Defplay Senso -- heard it has a lot of vibration and is a bit head-heavy. If I could get it without the "Senso" hollow handle, it may be perfect. Good blend of def speed and flex.

Yasaka Extra -- this may be my best option, but not too sure how popular it is among defenders?

Gambler Aralyte Carbon -- unfortunately, the regular sized blade is no longer available with straight handle and I'm not sure I want to go to the huge oversized style. I don't want anything to impede my quickness when switching from BH to FH. I don't mind slightly oversized blades, but the pure defense blades look a little too big/awkward for my game.

Maybe I should just stick with my Daweii -- I really don't have any complaints about it, I just can't help but think I am missing something by playing with a $12 blade. LOL

right now I'm testing a defplay senso (non-classic version) with straight handle. atm it has tg3neo and 563 medium pips 1.8 sponge on it. balance is fine with this setup; head-heavy but not drastic. i also tried replacing the 563 with HRT Wujilong. Total weight 189, and indeed, head heavy. but, tg3neo and hrt wujilong are both fairly heavy rubbers. swap one of those out with donic vario and it would be a totally different story. This blade is fantastic. looping underspin with tg3neo against my robot, i've never heard the topspin burn up the catch net like this before. a friend called it a can't miss looping blade, i agree

yasaka extra... strikes me as a weird choice; but i don't have much input there

Gambler AC may only be made in straight now, but if you posted a LF thread, you could probably get one in flared

funny that you're using the DW2, i was just thinking a couple days ago how that would make a good modern defender's blade. it's a very good blade at 12 dollars. i think the defplay senso would blow your socks off though.

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btw the defplay senso is less than $35 here:  http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/tt-blade-donic-defplay-senso

if your order is over 50 euros, it's free shipping, and 5% off the blade.... larger orders will discount the blade even more

and as others have done, you can add a weight in the bottom of the handle for balance (that's a nice feature of it; having the openings)
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... just checked, only 1 left in stock there atm
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Try any of the yinhe/ milky way/ galaxy defensive blades (DE-1, LQ-1 &2) available at www.colestt.com.
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donic alligator combi??? 
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NITTAKU Monophonic !
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regarding the head heaviness of defplay senso,you can make the headsize smaller with no detremental effect to the blades performance,i reduced mine to samsonov alpha dimensions to combat tennis elbow and that payed off . with a tenergy 05 fx 1.9 and 388d 0.5 the total weight is 140g,this is the spinniest blade i have used on both chop and loop strokes,however the straight handle was too thin for me so i  sanded down a flared handle to make it straight and that is perfect
if you like a banana flightpath on your loops this blade does it like no other i`ve seen


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A 2400 level modern defender i know uses one of these:

http://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=j-toni-hold
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The alligator combi looks interesting, but it is described as light and stiff. I would prefer heavy (90 - 100 gr) and some flex.
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Dang you guys are selling me on the Defplay Senso -- I may have to go with that and add some weight to the handle.
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Originally posted by chopchopslam chopchopslam wrote:

The alligator combi looks interesting, but it is described as light and stiff. I would prefer heavy (90 - 100 gr) and some flex.

grab a defplay senso (85grams) and put a 5 gram weight in the handle... and you'll be in heaven
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Originally posted by chopchopslam chopchopslam wrote:

Dang you guys are selling me on the Defplay Senso -- I may have to go with that and add some weight to the handle.

ha... 
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... you better grab the last one at tt11!!

i ordered the 2nd to last flared (got shipped today)... the last is saved for you :)
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Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

Originally posted by chopchopslam chopchopslam wrote:

Dang you guys are selling me on the Defplay Senso -- I may have to go with that and add some weight to the handle.

ha... 



I added weight in mine...






Edited by roundrobin - 07/23/2012 at 2:41pm
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roundrobin,

my "ha" was because he was writing basically what I was writing at the same time

bluebucket pointed me to the fact that you use a 5gram weight

what rubbers do you have on there now?
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Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

roundrobin,
what rubbers do you have on there now?


DHS Dragonow 2.0mm (red) and Dawei Saviga V ox. 
I also sanded off the flare handle's back edges a bit, so it's much easier to twiddle now... Smile
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Hunter Hawk...3ply control monster that can chop, block, loop, and smash and the ST and FL handles are very comfortable. Makes a great hardbat or great with thinner sponges. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by frogger frogger wrote:

Hunter Hawk...3ply control monster that can chop, block, loop, and smash and the ST and FL handles are very comfortable. Makes a great hardbat or great with thinner sponges. Thumbs Up

that's an intriguing blade for sure, but its track record seems to be that it's fragile
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Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

... you better grab the last one at tt11!!

i ordered the 2nd to last flared (got shipped today)... the last is saved for you :)

it's gone!

on another note, i've held and bounced a ball on an LQ1... the craftsmanship looks really good and the tone suggests it's a good blade
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A friend of mine recently bought Xiom Aigis from tabletennis11 and didn't change the blade since then (about 2 weeks). I see it as a sign that it's a very good blade because he's normally changing two blades per week :-)

Here's an example of how he plays (he is the defender there, of course)


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How about donic persson powerallround?

I have one. Medium speed, medium soft and good feeling. Slightly head hevy due to the hollow handle, but that problem can be solvet.

I know Fabian Åkerstöm (Lp blocker) uses it.


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I can chop as well as hit with my Yasaka Extra, but it doesn't chop as well as my Butterfly Defence II.  I would say it hits harder, though.
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Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

Originally posted by frogger frogger wrote:

Hunter Hawk...3ply control monster that can chop, block, loop, and smash and the ST and FL handles are very comfortable. Makes a great hardbat or great with thinner sponges. Thumbs Up

that's an intriguing blade for sure, but its track record seems to be that it's fragile
 
 
 It is a thin blade and some here have had a problem but I have had zero issues with mine. I have edge tape so that may help protect some.
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I would recommend the BTY Andrzej Grubba.  It has great control (5 ply), and hits loops like a beauty.  Comes in a straight handled version, it can also pull off a very Waldner-esque drop shot.
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Agreed, the grubba is a good choice!


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