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    Posted: 12/10/2009 at 11:02am
any comment on this blade?
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holda used to have 1. ask him to enlighten us please.
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the wood is good, the technology (grinding up bits of aluminum and putting them in glue to fill "micro channels") is bunk.

in short it's just wood with more glue resin than normal. glue resin is what adds the stiffness and speed.

there are better blades.
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I played 2 years with that blade.
In 2005 I went from 1500 something to 1861 usatt in ONE weekend (glued bryce max fh+glued TNT bh).
Super fast. Nice woody feeling. No bad vibrations. Relatively light (83-85 grams is not rare).
I could get back to it anytime.
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this is a nice blade.i still have it,but don't play with.i think it is nice offensive blade,stiff,yet sensitive.it might be better if stiga didn't use a hollow handle design.pairs nicely with japanese rubbers.it has more of a woody feel,but with no vibrations.weight is around 86-88 gr.i think if you aren't into fashion(butterfly lovers),this is a nice economical option.
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Originally posted by holda holda wrote:

....i think if you aren't into fashion(butterfly lovers),this is a nice economical option.
LOL Gotta luv that, holda didn't seem to hesitate or forget or mind to take a swipe at those devoted Btfly owners/lovers/diehards (me included but my 1st choice is Tibhar!)......LOL 
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i am deeply sorry,if my comment offended those lovers:)..let there be peace
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I played 2 years with that blade.
In 2005 I went from 1500 something to 1861 usatt in ONE weekend (glued bryce max fh+glued TNT bh).
Super fast. Nice woody feeling. No bad vibrations. Relatively light (83-85 grams is not rare).
I could get back to it anytime.


A US1500 player with speedglued bryce max is dangerous :)

I'm just saying that Stiga's description and marketing of the technology (which is essentially just using glue that has an inert solid ground up in it for vibration dampening purposes) is overhyped and questionable.

Ask any friends in the material sciences which of aluminum's notable properties are actually at play when it's in a powdered form in a resin base.


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the aluminum foil,i think is used.it does nothing,except that channels that are drilled in the middle veneer,are then filled with it,and that makes the blade lighter,yet stiffer.the blade would have been again over 92-25 gr,if it had contained a solid middle veneer.the stiga alum is pretty good,with a nicer feel than a clipper (an example of stiga's all wood blade with no perforations in the head portion of the racket)
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thanks all.. compare with stiga kevtech wrb, which one is good? 
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stiga tube aluminum is better. the sound is good, the control is there despite being fast and its a good attacking blade
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STIGA TUBE ALUMINIUM WRB

I have one and I'm still using it. It is just not 1 of my fav blades.

Stiga makes many good blades, but their blades I am not sure but they seems to be missing some elements.  Don't get me wrong, I like Stiga, but I just think they need to improve on the Tech Side!
 
I started out with DHS, then BTY, then Stiga, now back to BTY. I never found any Stigas that play like MMaze or TB ALC.
 
Here is what I think of TUBE ALUMINIUM WRB

*Offensive-
*Between Fast&Med Fast
*Hollow feeling/sound sometimes
*a lot of vibrations, imo too much
* med ctrl
*Semi looping machine
*Flat hit needs to improve
 
Overall a good blade for the price of $45~55. BUT, I would wait and get a used MMaze ALC. 
 
Just my 2 cents :)
 
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thanks all for your comment.. tube aluminium is sound good.. 1 questions, compare with stiga tube carbo wrb, which one is good? sorry for the same question..Ermm i'm confused about these blade
Blade: TBS
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I don't know the ans to that one, never used anything Stiga Carbon.

But 1 thing I kinda noticed, Stiga blades are very similar to Donic blades in some ways.  Don't know how to explain it!

They both have hollow handle blades, to me they both vibrate a lot, the wood quality is very much alike.
 
Do they have the same owner?!
 
ahhh,
 
If I need a stiga blade or Donic blade, I will get Clipper Wood and then Waldner Ultra Carbon.
 
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Question after question after question....Decision, decision & decision....
why don't you change the title of your topic like..."Comparing ALL Stiga Tube BLADES vs Kevlar vs KevTech or whatever....."
IMHO, I'd pick any of these, used but good cond. Bty TBS, MMaze, KLHSp, Viscaria and Iolite (The last 2 less so due to their limited choices of handles and their weight) over "Tube Plus WRB technologies" Plus not to forget ALL Tubed blades have slightly bigger blades's footprints and therefore tend to be head heavy....
Again, just my very humble experiences/opinions abt these Tubes as I had played with Carbo and Alum. b4....also MMaze, TBS n KLHSp...
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soo mad tiehwen.. just asking okey..
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Originally posted by asyraf asyraf wrote:

soo mad tiehwen.. just asking okey..
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how would it compare to tbs (timo boll spirit)
blade: butterfly schalger carbon
forehand rubber: sriver L max
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slower, softer than TBS.
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stiga, donic and yasaka blades have a similar finish because they are rumored to have been made in the same factory in sweden. as for the tube carbo, it is more of a looping blade. fast enough like speed is OFF but slower than most carbon blades. tube carbo is a bit heavy 
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Originally posted by yogi_bear yogi_bear wrote:

stiga, donic and yasaka blades have a similar finish because they are rumored to have been made in the same factory in sweden. as for the tube carbo, it is more of a looping blade. fast enough like speed is OFF but slower than most carbon blades. tube carbo is a bit heavy 
 
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Originally posted by asyraf asyraf wrote:

any comment on this blade?
 
liu guozheng used that while he was playing the league
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i find donic blades good and the black devil is my favorite
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote asyraf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/12/2009 at 9:05am
Originally posted by tiehwen tiehwen wrote:

Originally posted by asyraf asyraf wrote:

soo mad tiehwen.. just asking okey..
LOL no..no...tak susah at all....no worries... 


you can speak malay... are u from malaysia?
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i want to buy tube aluminium and play with it.. is this blade has st handle?
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Clown
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Originally posted by holda holda wrote:

this is a nice blade.i still have it,but don't play with.i think it is nice offensive blade,stiff,yet sensitive.it might be better if stiga didn't use a hollow handle design.pairs nicely with japanese rubbers.it has more of a woody feel,but with no vibrations.weight is around 86-88 gr.i think if you aren't into fashion(butterfly lovers),this is a nice economical option.


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no,i never had any carbo blade from Stiga.I suspect that even Stiga uses much thinner carbon layer in its blades(compared to Butterfly) so a carbo blade may have this"woody" feeling.Stiga Tube alum has some "woody" feeling,but it is not one of Stiga's vibrating blades
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Carbo 7.6 (and Oversize) have 6 (!) layers of very thin soft carbon(between 7 layers of wood) - so if it weren't for WRB it would be quite a vibrating blade. As it is, it's very playable and fast/stiff, but surprised me with a very decent amount of control for such a heavy and fast blade.

Haven't seen anyone though selling it here (Carbo Oversize, I mean) - must be not too popular...
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Carbo 7.6 is a thin, crisp, vibrating blade. Its superb for two wing loopers. Tube Aluminium is soft but somewhat stiffer, less vibration, faster blade. Again its great for topspins but its also good for blocking and flat hitting...
Both feels woody and springy but aluminium feels ticker, stiffer and springier with less vibration.

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