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kenneyy88 
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 Topic: strategies against lower lvl players and kidsPosted: 04/02/2007 at 12:14am |
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What is most effective against lower ranked players like around 1300?
Things I find useful are extreme sidespin serve and top. And maybe serving long? Also what to do against small players? I saw someone lobbing against a small girl and he won. But everyone was booing him. |
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mdjenders
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Posted: 04/02/2007 at 12:21am |
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Most players at this level (myself included atm) have a glaring weakness, most often the backhand loop. Serve a basic heavy chop/sidespin serve deep into their backhand and expect them to push instead of attack with a loop. Then loop the hell out of it with your fh.
Against small children, show no mercy or you will end up with egg on your face and a loss that no one will let you forget. The wee ones have problems reaching balls out wide, so mix in some slow, sidespin loops to force a weak reply, then loop kill into the open court. Lobbing also works nicely. Use a fish to get yourself in position back from the table, then throw up a really high lob with much topspin. The kids will struggle to get on top of the ball as the topspin catapults off the table, and they will miss the smash long very often :). |
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Posted: 04/02/2007 at 8:26am |
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The short game kills them, vary your spin and you'll get plenty of pop-ups.
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sverige
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Posted: 04/02/2007 at 9:22am |
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Many kids here in sweden are amazingly good at the loop to loop game.Thay all play like real europeans. But as tt_freak said. very bad at the short game. And opening backhand loop against long serve. Even at the higher levels the kids in sweden have a lacking of opining against a long underspin serve.
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Posted: 04/02/2007 at 2:29pm |
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Simple pushing and chopping will usually beat kids. Most will have been taught how to counter hit and maybe loop on the forehand off topspin shots but lifting a ball with backspin is often neglected and will provide you with easy points.
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Posted: 04/02/2007 at 2:46pm |
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i can't believe we're strategizing to beat kids... what is wrong with you people!!!!
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Posted: 04/02/2007 at 2:52pm |
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I think that is why most forum members don't want to post anything here!!!
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Posted: 04/02/2007 at 2:56pm |
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yah for short players, keep serving backspin balls that they cannot physically reach. After each time, stare at him/her and giggle. THis will guarantee half of the points in each set. Next, smash everything at them (not at the table, at them!!!!) to show who's boss. Once they're frightened, you can win easily... like... come on!!!
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befor playing kids i chug three raw eggs then i crack ever knuckle every way possible then i like to smash my head aginst the wall acouple times then i pretend to practice my kreanga backhand while grunting then i snort some illegal drugs on the table useing his dads credit card to make the line and then i ask if he would like ot serve first
this provide a firm scare that will give you the upper hand and win
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Posted: 04/02/2007 at 3:40pm |
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It's probably not a nice thing to strategize against kids, but it is good to find a way to play against them without trouncing them, or patronizing them/giving them too easy balls. Also with kids, adults should encourage them as much as psoobile by praising their play, even when they don't get the point, though have made a good effort.
And with kids, it's not a good idea to throw the game. I saw one 2300 player give the match to a junior( 1200 level), by playing ultra soft,and deliberately missing balls. It was nice of him to encourage the girl and allow her to advance, but it might give her a false idea of her ability, and cause undue pressure( self-inflicted or otherwise) to beat similarly high rated players the next time around.
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Posted: 04/02/2007 at 4:00pm |
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Just Can't believe u guys...this topic doesn't even deserve to be here or to be commented...Whoever initiates this kinda of thread are nothing but
BULLIES!
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ttman
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Posted: 04/02/2007 at 4:39pm |
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im sorry but if your at that level why are you using a kc with speed glued rubber ?
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kenneyy88
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Posted: 04/02/2007 at 7:00pm |
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so you'd rather lose to a kid, then advance in a tournament? Kids are not to be underestimated. And I always see ppl getting advice against choppers, are choppers not people as well? Kids are people as well. But shorter, faster reaction time. |
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GrumpyJoe
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Posted: 04/02/2007 at 9:01pm |
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If its at the club I will just keep the ball in play and more times than not they will self destruct on their own. In a tourney, heavy chop serve short to the F/H. Sometimes a good side spin loop that breaks away from right handers or into left handers.
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mdjenders
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Posted: 04/02/2007 at 10:36pm |
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Meh. I have asked myself this question many a time, but at the moment I have found no better combo for me than the one I am currently using. I know the KC is a little fast for me  , but I like the combo of power and control. I have played with many blades, and nothing has felt as good as the KC to me. I also play with more control with glue than non-glue due to the spin boost, so that's why I glue. I beat people 1700-1800 routinely; I just haven't done it in a tournament yet (I have only played 3 and am hoping for a large ratings boost in my next one if I don't choke).Back on topic, like one poster already said, DO NOT underestimate some of these young kids. A lot of little kids can loop and play offense very well, but they will struggle in the short game and against unorthodox styles like lobbing, fishing, and chopping. |
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TT_Freak
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Posted: 04/02/2007 at 11:41pm |
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Often the up-and-coming juniors are ridiculously good, thats why we have strategies to make them self-destruct.
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