Suggestions for tensors that bites the ball well!

Try Evolution MX-P. 

tenergy falls into that category of "doesn't bite the ball very much".
but I got used even to that (coming from h3 style rubbers).

maybe your opponent won't throw your opening loop directly out but they generally at least block it passively so you can keep on looping until the point ends.

if you look at pros none of them blocks an opening loop out so I don't think it's that important that it has super spin.

the super spiny opening loop is more of an amateur level weapon, like long/short pips in a way.


Edited by puppy412 - 01/08/2014 at 12:03pm

I don't know - I thought Vega Pro (for example) was pretty solid in these areas. If you're referring to Vega Japan (it's in your sig), then bear in mind that it's nothing like the original Vega series, and is more along the lines of Bluefire M2/M1.

I find that the last gen of tensors had good topsheet grip, so you could get away with more brushing in a loop stroke. But they were more sensitive to spin, and some had a few "quirks". I'm including Bluefire M, Evolution and Vega Japan in this category. People have complained of the occasional slipping ball, or stalled shot with them. I really liked the Bluefire M series, but they didn't work for me at all on the backhand of my preferred hinoki outer blades at the time. I know a lot of people are happy with them though.

The latest gen seem to be highly grippy and elastic. They are less sensitive to spin, less bouncy, highly controllable over the table, and more stable overall. But you get less bang for your buck with brushing with the ones I've tried. These are Bluefire JP, Tenzone Ultra, 1Q.

My current favourite is 1Q Sound. It's a very forgiving rubber, and you can get good performance out of the topsheet and the medium sponge. But IMO, you only get big spin with an "effort" stroke. You get high stability in trade for less easy spin.

puppy412 wrote: tenergy falls into that category of "doesn't bite the ball very much". but I got used even to that (coming from h3 style rubbers). maybe your opponent won't throw your opening loop directly out but they generally at least block it passively so you can keep on looping until the point ends. if you look at pros none of them blocks an opening loop out so I don't think it's that important that it has super spin. the super spiny opening loop is more of an amateur level weapon, like long/short pips in a way.

Edited by JohnnyChop - 01/08/2014 at 12:37pm

Thanks for all the suggestion! can anyone comment on the 5Q series??

NextLevel wrote: puppy412 wrote: tenergy falls into that category of "doesn't bite the ball very much". but I got used even to that (coming from h3 style rubbers). maybe your opponent won't throw your opening loop directly out but they generally at least block it passively so you can keep on looping until the point ends. if you look at pros none of them blocks an opening loop out so I don't think it's that important that it has super spin. the super spiny opening loop is more of an amateur level weapon, like long/short pips in a way. Tell that to Timo Boll.  And thank ITTF for creating the 40mm ball that made it so and lessened the effectiveness of a real style variation.

I tell you above Timo Boll ^^^^^^
Thank you ittf for creating 40mm ball.

If you want to return to a genuine Tensor rubber (assuming the latest generation of rubbers are mostly Catapult types), I suggest you try Joola Tango Extreme. 

laki wrote: This is the list of all the rubbers I tried during the last year, and I played each for at least a couple of weeks: Express One, 729 super fx, Vega Pro, Vega Europe, Omega Europe, H3 Neo, TG2 Neo, Sigma Pro, Memo2, Explode, Rakza7, Fastarc-G1, AcudaS2, GripS, Pryde40, Phenix48, IQUL. There a couple more rubbers I only tried, but I can't take them in to account because I didn't play them for a longer period. Out of the above mentioned rubbers, if you take H3 Neo and TG2 Neo a side, the best bite (without any hesitation in answering) has Rakza7. Note that I played with black sheet only. And definitely skip Pryde series, because you really need to involve the sponge if you want to get any spin out of that rubber.

Those people must have been playing with only chinese rubbers before, saying that Rakza7 doesn't bite. The tackiness of chinese rubbers really helps to grab the ball, but there is that lack of speed and feeling that sometimes gets annoying. It all depends on the preferences, however.

I think people who play close to the table should give the Narucross series a try - they are really underestimated as control rubbers with very good spin.

JohnnyChop wrote: laki wrote: This is the list of all the rubbers I tried during the last year, and I played each for at least a couple of weeks: Express One, 729 super fx, Vega Pro, Vega Europe, Omega Europe, H3 Neo, TG2 Neo, Sigma Pro, Memo2, Explode, Rakza7, Fastarc-G1, AcudaS2, GripS, Pryde40, Phenix48, IQUL. There a couple more rubbers I only tried, but I can't take them in to account because I didn't play them for a longer period. Out of the above mentioned rubbers, if you take H3 Neo and TG2 Neo a side, the best bite (without any hesitation in answering) has Rakza7. Note that I played with black sheet only. And definitely skip Pryde series, because you really need to involve the sponge if you want to get any spin out of that rubber. Interesting... thanks for the suggestion, i have had people say that razka7 does not bite the ball well? i guess i have to try to find out….

ashishsharmaait wrote: Baracuda bites more than anything else, chinese or non-chinese

5Q and 1Q both red for FH, works best for me, and I feel a notch better than Magna TX II and Killerspin Blast. I also have problems with rubbers needing to engage the sponge more to get high spin and do not particularly like the Calibra series (LT, +, Sound, Spin) and the Tenergies or Acuda S1 but I like the effortless spin Baracuda can generate.

you should try bluefire jp01 its great very soft topsheet 

puppy412 wrote: ashishsharmaait wrote: Baracuda bites more than anything else, chinese or non-chinese problem of baracuda is weight.