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Originally posted by Speedplay Speedplay wrote:

Originally posted by zzzuppp zzzuppp wrote:

No. 1-Deng Yaping
2 probably is Samsonov by now.


I actually think that JO Waldner have spent a longer consecutive time in the top 10, seeing how he entered the list in -83 and stayed on it until -97, perhaps even longer, but I can't confirm this.

Deng Yaping might be right, but I must admit, I was thinking about the male ranking, female TT don't interest me as much.


What you have to remember is that the rankings before 10/91 were made by committee,not computer, so necessarily subjective. Samsonov is definitely the longest since then.

Deng is well-known as the person with the longest No.1 ranking, so give credit where it's due. You should have specified Men.In which case,since 91, it's definitely WLQ .
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Originally posted by theman theman wrote:


ok i got a quiz question, there should be a warning for this thread:NO WIKIPEDIA OR YOUTUBE OR opening your match archives on computer! just remember out of your own memory, blah! be honest with yourselfhow many bh and fh chops did schlager make away from the table during the 2003 quarter finals against wang liqin?


Ha, nice one! What a great match that was.
I will hazard a guess-NONE!
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Originally posted by zzzuppp zzzuppp wrote:

Thanks. TT history is my specialism

Jim's question-actually there's three-Barna (who managed it twice), Szabados (who was first to do it) and Ferenc Sido (1953).



You are right... I somehow missed Sido, sorry.

Notice one more fact - all of them (ALL!) were from Hungary. No other country - even China, Japan, and Sweden - has even one guy like that.
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One more history quiz - pretty easy this time:

Who holds the record number of continental championships in Men Singles? (for the same continent, by the way)?

This guy is absolutely out of reach in that regard - he beats the closest contender by at least 100% (meaning any other man won his continent's champs less than half of the times this guy did).
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i suppose j.m.saive ...
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Timo only has 3 Euro Championships in MS (same as Appelgren and Samsonov), Saive - one.

Nope... not them.
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Is it henzell? im guessing some australian player
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Timo only has 3 Euro Championships in MS (same as Appelgren and Samsonov), Saive - one.

Nope... not them.


Did you count  the cadets and junior championships?Wink
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Originally posted by Ciprian Ciprian wrote:

Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Timo only has 3 Euro Championships in MS (same as Appelgren and Samsonov), Saive - one.

Nope... not them.


Did you count  the cadets and junior championships?Wink


No, just Men Singles. Come on, guys - this should have been easy... ask Mr. Google, after all...
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Paul Pinkewich ?
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Originally posted by APW46 APW46 wrote:

Paul Pinkewich ?


Paul has only 2 Oceania MS titles. No go...
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  Danny Seemiller? Victor Barna?
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Originally posted by APW46 APW46 wrote:

  Danny Seemiller? Victor Barna?


You guys are just guessing now... it's pretty easy to find the lists of all continental champions...

Danny never won a North-American Championship. And unfortunately there were no European Championships in the times of Barna - the first one was organized in 1958 (all my info is based solely on public ITTF data).
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Johnny Huang. I had to look though.
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Ah,APW46 beat me to it.

I've got a good one:-

What was unique about the lineup for the Mens Singles World Championship in 1967, the only time this has happened since 1926?
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Originally posted by APW46 APW46 wrote:

Johnny Huang. I had to look though.


yay!

Johnny it is. Guy won NA Champs 11 times !!!
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Originally posted by zzzuppp zzzuppp wrote:

Originally posted by Speedplay Speedplay wrote:

Originally posted by zzzuppp zzzuppp wrote:

No. 1-Deng Yaping
2 probably is Samsonov by now.


I actually think that JO Waldner have spent a longer consecutive time in the top 10, seeing how he entered the list in -83 and stayed on it until -97, perhaps even longer, but I can't confirm this.

Deng Yaping might be right, but I must admit, I was thinking about the male ranking, female TT don't interest me as much.


What you have to remember is that the rankings before 10/91 were made by committee,not computer, so necessarily subjective. Samsonov is definitely the longest since then.

Deng is well-known as the person with the longest No.1 ranking, so give credit where it's due. You should have specified Men.In which case,since 91, it's definitely WLQ .


Seriously???

I thought that there was some sort of calculating behind it, sounds strange if the ranking was all done by a committee.

Anyhow, I know I'm biased, being a Swede and all, but regardless of how the ranking was made, Waldner held his spot in the top 10 and there is no way we can tell that he wouldn't have been top ten by another rating system, is there?

About Deng, I agree, she was/is probably great, heck, I even knew it was a lady and not a man, that should count for something, but the next time, I will try to be more specific. A hint though, when I ask questions, it will always be about men,s game, as I feel that I'm interested in the best, not in the best women.

Now, about the winner of male single, double and mixeed, this can never be won by a Swede, simple because we have never had a Swedish female that could produce any results at all. Must admit that I'm surprised that there hasn't been any Chinese doing this though.... I'm almost willing to bet that they could achieve this when ever they wanted to, by simple pairing the right players together and go back to some friendship play
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Originally posted by zzzuppp zzzuppp wrote:

Ah,APW46 beat me to it.

I've got a good one:-

What was unique about the lineup for the Mens Singles World Championship in 1967, the only time this has happened since 1926?


Hmm... nothing comes to mind yet. One thing was special about that WTTC, however - it was the last one for Ivor Montagu as an ITTF President.
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Clue needed?

Well, 1926 was the FIRST World Championship.
And in 1967, one nation was conspicuous by its absence, a nation who included a certain player. So, when the Men's Singles started,....??
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Well, I know that China was missing (with Zhuang Zedong) but why would that affect the lineup - you mean the seeding?
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Could it be that the top rated player wasn't participating in the event?

Or, since 1926 was the first, there were no current world champion and then in 1967, it was the second time that there were no defending world champion participating?
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Originally posted by Speedplay Speedplay wrote:

Could it be that the top rated player wasn't participating in the event?

Or, since 1926 was the first, there were no current world champion and then in 1967, it was the second time that there were no defending world champion participating?


I bet it was not the first time that happened... not 100% sure but it would be strange. Also how can you even verify that?

For instance, Tanaka's ITTF record states that he didn't participate in 1959 championship - but he was 1957 WTTC MS champion. Same with Bergmann not coming to 1951 WTTC.

Also I am pretty sure that after Satoh won in 1952 he didn't come to the next one.
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Crap, then my best guess was shot down...
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Originally posted by Speedplay Speedplay wrote:


Or, since 1926 was the first, there were no current world champion and then in 1967, it was the second time that there were no defending world champion participating?


Close enough! What I was getting at was that whoever won in 1967 would be a brand new winner-nobody was taking part who had been World champion previously (Zhuang absent,ditto Rong Guotuan,and previous winners had all retired). This has never happened otherwise.
It's easy to check up in the ITTF stats. (Or ask me ).
So I'll give you that one,Speedplay!
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i just googled, i totally forgot about hasegawa! was he a defensive player?
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I think Hasegawa might be my favourite player of all time. He was basically an attacking player, but he used a strange kind of shakehand grip,sort of half-penhold with his index finger straight down the back of the racket.He used the basic J-pen b/hand serve of the time. What made him great to watch was that he was really the first of the fishers/high lobbers, and he was incredibly athletic and never gave up, so he had this kind of heroic aspect to his play. I think other than Bengtsson he was probably the best player of the era between 1967 and 1975, although his Worlds results don't reflect that. He won the Asian Championships,with all the best Chinese in attendance, four times during those years.
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