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These two rubbers, what ST SH blade to match? |
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dauntless
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Posted: 01/11/2009 at 6:24am |
FH: Tenergy 2.1 Red
BH: Refoma 2.0 Blk ---- Loose Criteria: What is soft enough for Tenergy and hard enough for Refoma? Prefer non WRB, ST Handle, size thicker than 6.0mm, smallest head dimensions 157x150, largest 160 x152, synthetic material/wood or all wood OK. Prefer not super stiff with enough flex for loop, enough rigidity and hardness for occasional hitting. |
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notfound123
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Acoustic or Korbel
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dauntless
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Korbel is on my short list for this imaginary setup.
Anyone think SK7, Korbel SK7, or SK7 Alpha would work or not enough flex with 7 ply? |
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Acoustic is pretty stiff for a 5ply. Korbel is a bit softer.
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Korbel
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Korbel ST
H3 Neo 2.2 Desto F3 2.0 USA: 1522 CAN: 809 |
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dauntless
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Is Korbel available in ST handle?
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yes, but harder to get...
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GenomicsKnight
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I'd recommend YE7. It matches the flex and rigidity requirements that you want. |
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dauntless
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YE7, nice looking blade: http://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=y-gat-ex-7
I wonder how thick it is? Only thing is, if I was going to get a 7-Ply blade, it would probably be the SK7 or variant, like the SK7 Alpha. I had a Darker 7P-2A that was OK, but it wasn't the right blade for me after all...since then I have stayed away from 7plys. Sidenote: I would like to know if 5-Ply is better (in general and for most people) than a 7-Ply for looping. |
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Peter C
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My Korbel is a 5.8mm thick blade, weighs 92 grams, is slightly head heavy, has a thin handle and works well with a soft rubber like 35% Quattro, as well as heavier rubbers like 40% Inspirit. I didn't feel it worked as well with 44% Inspirit though.
You can get Korbels with a straight handle and weighing less than mine and that makes it a viable option. Another option worth considering is the Clipper Wood, which is 6.8mm thick. Mine weighs 91 grams and has a better balance to it than my Korbel, due to a bigger, more comfortable handle. It also feels a livelier blade and the combination of harder inner plies and softer outer plies, makes it a versatile blade, that works well with a variety of rubbers. It works better for me with medium and medium hard rubbers, but I'd be surprised if it didn't work with soft rubbers too.. Of the blades you mention, the SK7 series strike me as a valid choice too; bearing in mind they appear to be modern Butterfly equivalents of the Clipper. http://forum.oneofakindtrading.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=3451 The comparison is being made between a Korbel SK7 and a Clipper CR, not a standard Clipper Wood. The Clipper CR is a lighter, thinner WRB blade, which is 5.8m thick, head heavy with glued max Almana sound and harder to loop with than the Clipper Wood, because the CR coating makes the surface harder, which gives it's speed; but less dwell time and a lower throw. Regarding Yasaka I like the Gatien Extra which is one of the best looping blades i've used, but I haven't tried the Extra 7. In general 5 ply blades are easier to loop with, because they tend to be slower and more forgiving than a 7 ply, due to a higher throw. Blades like the Gatien Extra, Extra, Applegren Allplays, Stiga Allround and Dima Sawtec are all excellent looping blades. However there are 7 ply blades that can loop just as well as a 5 ply, as their construction can play a part in the playing characteristics. One blade i've found that fits that description is the Galaxy M6, which is 5.8mm in thickness and with WRB, i.e. like the Clipper CR, but without the CR coating, which makes it slightly head heavy and slower than the Clipper, but still a good looping blade nonetheless. Like the Korbel it has a thin handle. |
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Hum usually people pick a blade they like and then choose the rubbers
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-Primorac 2000, 802 + globe 999 quattro
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I used to have that combination on my 7p2a7t.
Refoma is a little bit soft for this blade but it still plays well. I'd probably go back to Refoma for my BH after my current EJ stint is over.
Tenergy is fast and spinny but creates a bit of vibration. If you do not mind the vibration, it is a good match. The main reason I am not using it anymore is because of the price.
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dauntless
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lildudejds was saying elsewhere that in his opinion tenergy's throw angle is higher than refoma... I really like this rubber and could even go both side if I had to. I just didn't want to go too soft too grippy on the FH. But maybe with right blade refoma would shine both sides.
I have a gut feeling the SK7 Alpha is the blade I want. It looks so freaking cool and I like the handle, I can get a ST one, it is not super expensive. It should be pretty straightforward unlike my carbn aramid which I thought was so awesome. So if I was to go with refoma both sides, could I use a SK7 alpha or maybe korbel SK7? I know I can get "used" to anything, but I really want to end the EJ virus and stick with something for a long while that is not super $$$, can do it all, and doesn;t leave me wanting for something. (Like my current blade does on loops) NO WRB -- I really dont like WRB for some reason. Does anyone know the quality of the SK7 Alpha, is it made in Japan or China? Why does say "mid fast" instead of off-? Is it the same blade as Korbel Sk7? Maybe the SK7 is the better blade? |
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Peter C
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Why not send an email to Butterfly Customer Service and ask them what the differences in the blades are.
It wouldn't surprise if the Korbel SK7 is the SK7 rebadged for the European Market and made in the Hungary plant, instead of Japan or China. |
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