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Tibhar 5Q review |
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riker71
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I have stuck the same sheet of Omega IV pro 2-3 times onto blades with Klebstoff Imperial (regular voc glue not speed glue), no shrinkage or problems there. I always use this glue a water based glue is too much hassle.
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sorry but i wont use wbg unless its really needed. im fine with elmer's rc and if there's any difference its not that much since i dont reglue anyway
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and i also want to prove to some people who blame the glue for their rubber's forming bubbles after 3-5 days of use because they didnt use wbg. also the shrinking of the rubber can be minimized if you dont glue your rubber immediately and if you dont press your rollers too much on the rubber when you attach it
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not suitable for ebenholz 7, tried it today and the rubber feels really hard on it. tried it on a clipper hrt clone and it suits just fine
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yogi_bear
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after 2 weeks of using this rubber i can say its a goo alternative to T05. what i like about it is that its not too fast like the tenzone but offers the same spin. it seems very durable and would last for about 6 months to average players.
this would be best for medium hard blades or blades that are not too stiff. works well with blades having koto, limba ad cypress outer plies
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yogi_bear
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the 5Q works well with the rosewood XO. my 5Q now is almost a month old still in good 85% condition with no chips or bubbles formed
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kuifje
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You think it would not work well with softer flexible blades?
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yogi_bear
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for people who wants control the softer flexible blades would work and maybe make them do slow loops better but the medium stiff blades bring out the best for the 5Q
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kuifje
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So perhaps for a flexible ALL+ blade 1Q would work better? That's harder isn't it?
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yogi_bear
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ALL+ is fine, i suggest you try off- blades.. they have the flex yet also offers control and speed
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how is 5Q compare to Sigma Pro...? in spin, speed , control, sponge hardness....
thanks... Edited by bagung - 07/12/2012 at 9:57pm |
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bagung
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the weight seems similar to Tenzone SF...... my SF is 68-69g..
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yogi_bear
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havent tried the sigma pro
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thanks...
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One Table Tennis
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Using 5Q on my Tibhar H 3 9 (which I'm using from 15 days or so). Very happy with the 5Q on the backhand. In addition to being a great rubber for backhand (and near to table play), it gives a tremendous underspin that is very deceptive.
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nice! i agree with your findings because the 5Q is really good in doing underspin serves. its like you don't need to do a lot of movements to produce heavy under spin serves making people think that you are serving a no spin serve
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pak abu
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Hi Yogi,
Can you compare this rubber to Tibhar Genius? Now I'm using the genius but would like a bit more speed. Also how about durability? Genius not that great. I saw on the package, the hardness is softer by 2.5 degree of genius (47.5). Also how about the hardness compare to rakza 7?
Edited by pak abu - 09/11/2012 at 9:12am |
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yogi_bear
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rakza 7 and genius regular are both harder than the 5Q. the 5Q is faster than both rubbers though. I say when attacking the spin of the 5Q is amazing. on pushes or serves i think its equal to genius
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pak abu
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Thanks.. need to make up my mind again. As I feel the speed of rakza 7 is right for me. But the spin of 5Q attract me to it....
Do you thing it will feel mushy on 1ply hinoki?
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yogi_bear
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the 5Q is not mushy. its a medium rubber. its fast on a 1 ply hinoki
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is 5Q harder or softer than tenergy 64? |
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yogi_bear
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5Q is a lil firmer
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TSuBaSa
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5q is softer than rak7 and genius but hardee than t64? Not possible
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Carryboy
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That depends on what blade you playing it on.
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TSuBaSa
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at last I've played with 5Q and its not what I expected.
They say its the softest rubber of the Q family. So I expected a mid soft rubber like aurus soft, rakza7 soft, tenergy 05 fx etc... But its hard. Lets say mid hard like t64. And its really heavy. Its much much heavier than tenergy 05 fx. So: Speed: Its a fast and bouncy rubber like tenergy. But feeling is between tenzone and acuda series. And red sheet of 5Q looks like very much tenzone sf and acuda series. Speed is just a bit slower than tenzone and acuda s1 turbo. but still its a fast one. Spin: Its very very spinny( like tenergy) But somewhat its not that sensitive to incoming spin. Lots of people would like this but I dont. I'm a spin based player and I like to use my opponents spin to create speed and rotation. With 5Q you have to play a bit more active... Throw: Its between t05 and t64. But closer to the t64. So throw angle is a bit flat. Blocking and smashing is much better than t05. Its just not so sensitive to the incoming spin so sometimes if you're a bit lazy than your topspins goes in to the net. Other stuff: Its a heavy rubber. Loud when you block+smash but its not soft. Its much heavier, faster and harder than I expected so I got some issues with the control department. |
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Hello friends, wow and this is for 5q. But out there has 1q. It must be heavier and faster. I'm not finish . Out there has and 1qxd ... beast ... heavier and faster. My 1qxd, 2.1 weigh 49 grams cut to schlager carbon. 5q must weigh 45 grams cut for butterflay head size 157/150. Good luck. |
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Does 5Q suit nittaku violin 5 ply ?
I intend to substitute genius regular to 5Q (1.9) on my BH and my strength is my open loops , drives and BH punch , does those stroke this rubber ?
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Recently, had a short hit with the following rubbers, alternating them when doing a FH to FH and BH to BH hit.... 5Q, P5, Rakza 7 Soft, Rasant. Thus would like to just share my opinion..
Spin on serve (Backspin) : All spinny. Rasant feel a little spinnier...not obvious. My opponent and myself can't really tell the significant differences between the rest.
Speed : Rasant > 5Q, P5 > R7 Soft
Throw (high to low): 5Q/P5, R7 Soft, Rasant
Rasant always go off the table or hit the baseline when using the same stroke..
I've played with T05 and like it very much. 5Q and P5 feel and play like T05.
All rubbers seems to work well for FH except that Rasant is more suitable for mid distance game. All except Rasant is recommended for BH, but thinner sponge, e.g. 1.9 or 2mm.
Amount them, I like P5 most for both FH and BH : ) followed by 5Q.
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right2niru
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@yogi_bear / peter79/debraj : any expert views ?
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Overall, a good rubber. Very heavy underspin especially with a new rubber. It is best for near to mid table play. Good for punching blocks, not the very best for normal blocks. Very good for strong counter hitting.
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