Tibhar clean tune?

Try the Clean Tuning EXTRA. It is possible to get the same results as with speed glue. It makes the sponge softer, but not quite as soft as speed glue.
The spin is the same as speed glue. The speed is even faster than speed glue. Tried it on Sriver L (very good effect, great spin, great speed and makes the rubber soft enough too, but you need about 7-8 layers, effect lasts 3-4 weeks). Tried it on Torpedo with very good results.
Bryce works also, but you need to put more layers.
I hear it even works on Hurricane 3.
Good stuff :)

Yes. It's incredible stuff. Go try it yourself. It makes life easier if you play several times a week. You don't have to reglue the racket all the time.

Clean Tuning & CT Extra are both compliant with the new speed glueing rules i.e. they are both VOC free.
These products are exclusive products by Tibhar. They have nothing in common with Ecolo Expander, Falco Speed glue or the new Joola & Butterfly products.
The effect of CT lasts for about 1 week then it has to be renewed.
The effect of CTE lasts 3-4 weeks.
The effect on spin is 100% that of speed glue, on speed it's 110%, sound is 90% of speed glue.
CTE softens the sponge and has an effect on the top sheet as well -> huge spin increase (also on serves) if you apply enough of CTE.
CTE is a brand new product and the problem so far is to find out how much  in what ways has to be used to get the same results as people had with their particular way to speed glue. This takes a bit of trial & error.
1st time usage of CTE on a rubber (can be used on used rubbers if the glue layer has been removed) takes 1-3 days depending on the strength of the intended effect. The more you apply the more the rubber spreads. The topsheet also takes time to stretch (much longer than with speed glue). Once CTE has properly reacted with the sponge the "retuning" process is much faster (= less than 1 day). The key is to get enough CTE in the sponge in the beginning and to give it time to react.

I didn't want to believe it either, but CTE is nothing less but amazing because I didn't think that something like this was possible. If you play several times a week you will find that CTE is so much better than speed glue because you only have to deal with your rubbers once every 3+ weeks instead of glueing your rubbers several times a day. The effect is always the same throughout the 3+ weeks. It doesn't get less and less every day as you may think. It's the same for 3+ weeks and then it abruptly ends and you have to add 2-3 new layers for another 3 weeks.
This is the ultimate good stuff in my opinion because it offers the same spin as real speed glue, which the other products I tried didn't offer. The other products had the speed but not the spin. CTE has everything.
I'm fascinated with this stuff.

I wait with a new layer until most of the liquid has been soaked into the sponge. The layers have to be really wet (= very thick) at least the first 5 layers. The intervalls between the layers get longer, but the first 5 layers can be applied within 1 hour. After a couple of layers the rubbers start to dome extremely and finally curl up into rolls. At this point you have to let the rubber stretch out a couple of hours before applying more layers. After putting the final layer the rubbers should flatten out a bit. They won't really get flat, but let them flatten until the have the form of a big speed glue dome. Then you can glue them on the blade. You can use regular glue, but the new voc-free contact glues (andro, tibhar, donic, butterfly) work much better. With regular glue you have problems to get the edges to stick -> use a press overnight.

The preparation process with CTE takes 2-3 days on first time usage of CTE on this rubber. The retuning after the effect is gone - or if you want a stronger effect - is no big deal and only takes a couple of hours.

I guess that there will be much better methods to use CTE, but people have to find out first. It's still open for experiments, because only very few people already have a little bit of experience with CTE.

where can you get this in the US?

Thanks for your response YATTP.  So you are saying that CTE has more speed and spin effect then possible with ecolo expander II and plays consistently with this enhanced effect for about 3 weeks.  Has anyone tried it on a tensor rubber such as Andro Plasma.  Will it destroy the Plasma as the top sheet is already stretched and Andro recommends not to speed glue.

1. I didn't notice an increase in spin with EII.
2. I definitely wouldn't try CTE on Plasma or any other of the latest generation of tensor rubbers as they are not made for speed glue and CTE is 100% speed glue replacement.

you have to use a water based glue - if you want your paddle to pass the ENEZ test.

I trid it on h2 bloue spore H40 and it was great. wery fast and spinny.

I used CTE on MarkV GPS - poured from container and spread with sponge...  Used 5 layers...  rubber curled totally after 4th application...

many topics have been addressed so far but the main thing i want to know is does CT or CTE decrease the life of your rubber just like speedglue does? 

I would expect the same as alfie does... the rubber is stretched for longer which is bad, but less vapours are likely to penetrate the topsheet which is good...

I would also tend to agree with alfie....

@ controlgame

I suggest that you use Andro Free Glue or Tibhar Clean Fix. They are *very* nice to use and very easy to remove.
I use a damp cloth on the blade to rub of the remaining thin polymere layer. Then I use my fingers to rub off the thin layer polymere layer on the sponge. A bit of CTE will help I guess but I didn't need it. It's really easy to clean the rubbers.


YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO WAIT AT LEAT 48 HOURS ON FIRST TIME USAGE OF CTE BEFORE PUTTING THE RUBBERS ON THE BLADE. CTE needs this time to react fully with the sponge and topsheet. If you don't do this the effect will not be good. The retuning can be done over night, but not the first time usage.

@ pablopau

Sorry, but I can't tell you because this depends on what you do exactly.
If you prime rubbers with CTE (first time usage) you need many layers depending on the desired effect and the hardness of the sponge. For "retuning" after 4 weeks you only need 1-2 layers.
The 100ml of CTE in one bottle are enough for approximately 90 wet layers.
It will depend on how long your rubbers last in your particular case - and this will largely depend on your level. The higher your level, the more stress your rubbers will have to endure thus reducing their lifetime. If you play on an average level I guess that a medium tuned Sriver FX will last 3-6 months. One "tuning" with CTE lasts 4 weeks so you'd probably use the following:
Sriver FX with medium tuning effect:
priming = 6 layers
retuning after 4 weeks = 2 layers
retuning after 8 weeks = 3 layers
retuning after 12 weeks = 2 layers
retuning after 16 weeks = 3 layers
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16 layers for 4 months (fh)
16 layers for 4 months (bh)
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TOTAL: 32 layers for 4 months and 2 rubbers
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considereing that there are about 90 layers in one bottle of CTE you should be able to cover nearly a whole year if you don't want a high effect.
If you want a high effect you will need considerably more CTE.
And if you are a competitive player you will need pretuned backup rubbers in case you break your rubbers during a match.
All things considered, I think that CTE is cheaper than regular *LEGAL* speed glue, if you play often - and much more convenient also. If you play less it will be slightly more expensive, but still more convenient to use and the effect will be much more consistent.

CTE is a really good innovation and I like it very much.

If I were going to use a product like that I would still remove the rubbers and wrap them up when not playng. If you leave them streched over the blade the whole time it will surely lessen the speed glue effect as the top will stretch. I would wrap them in plastic wrap so they could maintain their concave shape and keep the tension off the top when not in use.