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Tibhar rubber that is made in Japan. |
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Stavros 
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 Topic: Tibhar rubber that is made in Japan.Posted: 01/21/2013 at 7:03am |
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Nianmor is made in Japan. Is any other rubber from Tibhar that is made in Japan ?
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Posted: 01/21/2013 at 7:32am |
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i think the sinus series are also from japan? not sure
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Posted: 01/21/2013 at 7:37am |
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the new evolution series are said to be made there
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Posted: 01/21/2013 at 7:43am |
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i doubt the evo series are made in japan. i just need to confirm it first though.
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Posted: 01/21/2013 at 8:00am |
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Sinus is from germany...
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Posted: 01/21/2013 at 9:22am |
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primus is made in japan evolution definitely made in germany
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Posted: 01/21/2013 at 10:07am |
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Soulspin in Germany has the top sheet made for them by Nittaku in Japan, and has developed their own sponge and propietary gluing process to attach the topsheet to the sponge. I wonder if maybe other companies are going to be working like that at some point, if not already?
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Posted: 01/21/2013 at 10:11am |
Oooh, now that's an interesting prospect. Imagine if Evolution was a Jap topsheet, shipped to ESN, and then stuck on a Bluefire-type sponge. No evidence for this actually being the case, but that could be a great rubber.
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Posted: 01/21/2013 at 2:03pm |
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it sure feels like it ^^
And it IS a great rubber. |
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Posted: 01/21/2013 at 2:23pm |
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Off topic, but Soulspin is an interesting company, I strongly recommend checking their site for blade that can be fit with an almost infinite number of handle sizes and shapes. You can also read about their rubber there. The company was founded by Michael Schneider, who was a blade designer for Butterfly and Xiom before starting his own company.
http://www.soulspin.tt/en/home.html They call their rubber Project 12. Nittaku topsheet, some new kind of sponge they say the get in China, and then glued together by a proprietary process in Germany. I haven't tried it. Edited by Baal - 01/21/2013 at 2:25pm |
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Posted: 01/21/2013 at 2:27pm |
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Sorry I am hijacking this thread, but maybe it is interesting, if nothing else, as a model for how other companies may be working. I just cut and pasted this from the Soulspin site:
Made in JapanThe
surface quality is "made in Japan" - produced by a Japanese company
that has more than 60 years experience in manufacturing high quality
table tennis rubbers. [note added, elsewhere they say that this is Nittaku) Made in ChinaThe new sponge is manufactured by a reputable, Chinese company. This new development is the result of a project of Chinese chemistry students. They have managed to develop this excellent sponge with remarkable properties. The fact that all project participants themselves play table tennis and that they could bring all of their experience into the development of this sponge, has certainly contributed to this excellent result. The special feature of this new development is the structure of the sponge. This is evenly covered with large air bubbles on the inside - virtually "foamed". When striking the ball, the air bubbles are compressed to about 1/10th of their size - an extremely high pressure is built up. Once the ball changes direction to bounce and the pressure on the bubbles decreases, these extend explosively to their original volume and suddenly catapult the ball out of the coating. Through this catapult effect, the ball gains tremendous speed. Made in GermanyEdited by Baal - 01/21/2013 at 2:28pm |
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Posted: 01/22/2013 at 3:35am |
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Bungee and Samourai was made in Japan
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Posted: 01/22/2013 at 7:46am |
I read some reviews a while back on tt-news.de and noppen-test.de thanks to google translate. IIRC people thought they were really good rubbers, very spinny, overall build & play quality comparable to later ESN rubbers. The feel is different which means some players like them better than ESN rubbers, some don't. Price is the same as Bluefire. Their custom blade configurator is pretty cool. But expensive compared to OSP. Edited by Anderni - 01/22/2013 at 7:53am |
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Posted: 01/22/2013 at 8:02am |
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Yep, a bit more pricey, but they have composite blades for those who like them, unlike OSP. It's a bit of a different philosophy I think--in fact, the guy who started the company is one of the pioneers in the original development of composite blades. The Soulspin composite I tried, the Basalt, was quite good, and you cannot underestimate the coolness of their handle configurator. So compared to OSP, apples and oranges. People who really like composite blades (and that's a lot of people) will not really like any of the OSP blades based on the ones I've tried. OSP is trying for something quite different.
What you write about the rubber doesn't surprise me. People are so desperate to find the next great rubber that doesn't cost 80 USD that if there was anything really exciting there we would have heard about it by now. I did think it was interesting the way they went about developing it. The one thing that did catch my attention is that with the earlier generation of ESN rubbers, the thing I didn't like was the topsheet. So the fact that they had a Japanese topsheet got my attention. Edited by Baal - 01/22/2013 at 8:04am |
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Posted: 01/22/2013 at 9:11am |
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Ah yes, that was unfair of me. Casual PC gamers happily spend 300+ euros on a new graphics card every two years for a bit more graphic fidelity. (Let's not talk about women with their 500$ haircuts.) A handmade blade for 130 euros isn't that much, in comparison. Btw you said you had a quick hit with one of their blades - do you know the person who owns it? It's hard to find reviews of their blades, I only found one (it was positive) in the German EJ forums. Edited by Anderni - 01/22/2013 at 9:26am |
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Posted: 01/22/2013 at 10:10am |
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Actually I owned it! Sold it to a friend at my club who loves it. I prefer my Viscaria. But it was a good blade, and when my friend tried it he loved it immediately so I sold for a little less than I paid for it.
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Posted: 01/22/2013 at 7:11pm |
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Ohh cool. Any chance of a micro review from you or your friend? The composition is very interesting. Spruce-Ayous-Basalt-Kiri. Basalt rock in a TT blade?!?
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Posted: 01/22/2013 at 11:24pm |
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Low end of Off in speed, about midway between a Korbel and a Viscaria. Quite flexible, huge sweet spot, soft feel, but not dampened like arylate. You can get any kind of handle you want to fit your hand. Basalt is supposed to be a special kind of carbon fiber, and it is different feeling from most other pure carbon blade. Perhaps not as fast or glassy. I was hoping the blade would be a touch faster. Incredibly high quality of workmanship. Incredible. Better than anything I have seen from anyone else. Better than BTY, better than OSP. A bit head light with respect to weight distribution.
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Posted: 01/23/2013 at 8:09am |
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Nice, thanks. As far as I can see, the second ever review of a Soulspin blade in the latin letter world.
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