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Any reason they didn't play Walther in the match vs Jha instead of Heister?
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Any reason they didn't play Walther in the match vs Jha instead of Heister?

official explanation: "foot problems"
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Heister played in the Olympics almost five years before Jha was born.
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Heister played in the Olympics almost five years before Jha was born.


To be honest Heister didn't look to shabby at all for his age. Also good fight which is great to see.
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Another Jha-Wang Xi match coming up today. In 2020 Kanak won the first one 3-2 and lost the second one 1-3.

This is an important match for both teams (unlike Friday's), both are trying to secure a top 4 place to qualify for the playoffs.

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MODHEIMGAST1.2.3.4.5.PU
1-2 Dang QIU Simon GAUZY -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
2-1 Deni KOZUL Hugo CALDERANO -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
3-3 Xi WANG Kanak JHA -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
1-1 Dang QIU Hugo CALDERANO
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Originally posted by ghostzen ghostzen wrote:

Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Heister played in the Olympics almost five years before Jha was born.


To be honest Heister didn't look to shabby at all for his age. Also good fight which is great to see.

I'm not criticizing him, quite the opposite.  His maintained level is remarkable. 
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Originally posted by ghostzen ghostzen wrote:

Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Heister played in the Olympics almost five years before Jha was born.


To be honest Heister didn't look to shabby at all for his age. Also good fight which is great to see.

I'm not criticizing him, quite the opposite.  His maintained level is remarkable. 


Totally agree with you on it 100% nice to see someone turn up and fight hard against someone stronger.
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Gauzy hit a strawberry at 10-10 in the first.
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Originally posted by ghostzen ghostzen wrote:

Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Heister played in the Olympics almost five years before Jha was born.


To be honest Heister didn't look to shabby at all for his age. Also good fight which is great to see.

I'm not criticizing him, quite the opposite.  His maintained level is remarkable. 

Heister defeated ryu seung min in 2005 worlds
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Tuesday 7pm local / 1pm Eastern:
Bad Homburg vs Ochsenhausen
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Wang Xi is a formidable opponent, his fh is a killer now, what a complete player! a twiddle with a full arm bh loop would be cool sometimes, I am sure he does it all the time at the club if he wants to fool around so why not more often in big matches if he is in position? it goes along with the aging player finishing the point faster while retaining the widest variety of shots possible.
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Kanak gets some needed rest today, and Kubik has a chance to get his first win.

1-2 Rares SIPOS Samuel KULCZYCKI -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
2-1 Maksim GREBNEV Simon GAUZY -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
3-3 Lev KATSMAN Maciej KUBIK -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
1-1 Rares SIPOS Simon GAUZY
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Kulczycki is special, Ochenhausen will be fine without Calderano next year whether they replace him or not.  Kanak might even stay at the #3 spot.
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Kulczycki is top junior but JHA I Found his shots are too powerful, he didn't put some time for recover so maybe he should try short pips because his power is devastating for opponent and he loose with too much errors on his side
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I wonder what the latest point is at which a professional has tried to make such a major change with any success? But I highly doubt it's an option for a player at the stage where Jah is at.

On German forums there's talk of him not having made it this year and this having been his chance. I hope he gets another season at this level. 
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I hope he gets another chance.  He is making improvements.  If he has to play for another team, then so be it.  The more he can play these people, the better he is going to get. 
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Another busy weekend in the TTBL as the regular season enters the final stretch:

Friday 7pm local / 1pm eastern
Ochsenhausen vs Neu-Ulm

Sunday 3pm local / 9am eastern
Fulda vs Ochsenhausen
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Ochsenhausen want to win and clinch a spot in the playoffs:

1-2 Hugo CALDERANO Tiago APOLONIA -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
2-1 Simon GAUZY Vladimir SIDORENKO -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
3-3 Samuel KULCZYCKI Emmanuel LEBESSON -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
1-1 Hugo CALDERANO Vladimir SIDORENKO
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Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Ochsenhausen want to win and clinch a spot in the playoffs:

1-2 Hugo CALDERANO Tiago APOLONIA -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
2-1 Simon GAUZY Vladimir SIDORENKO -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
3-3 Samuel KULCZYCKI Emmanuel LEBESSON -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
1-1 Hugo CALDERANO Vladimir SIDORENKO

Looks like Samuel is beating Kanak in practice...
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Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Kanak gets some needed rest today, and Kubik has a chance to get his first win.

1-2 Rares SIPOS Samuel KULCZYCKI -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
2-1 Maksim GREBNEV Simon GAUZY -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
3-3 Lev KATSMAN Maciej KUBIK -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
1-1 Rares SIPOS Simon GAUZY

This may have been when Kanak was playing the Challenger Series...
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Ochsenhausen want to win and clinch a spot in the playoffs:

1-2 Hugo CALDERANO Tiago APOLONIA -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
2-1 Simon GAUZY Vladimir SIDORENKO -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
3-3 Samuel KULCZYCKI Emmanuel LEBESSON -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
1-1 Hugo CALDERANO Vladimir SIDORENKO

Looks like Samuel is beating Kanak in practice...

Kid beat Lebesson... seems truly special.
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The two remaining matches (Fulda today, Bergneustadt on March 21) are irrelevant for Ochsenhausen - they will finish the regular season at #2 or 3 in the standings and face Saarbrucken in the playoffs. The only open question is which team will finish 4th.

Live stream:

1-2 Ruwen FILUS Samuel KULCZYCKI -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
2-1 Benno OEHME Simon GAUZY -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
3-3 Fan Bo MENG Kanak JHA -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
1-1 Ruwen FILUS Simon GAUZY
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Ochsenhausen want to win and clinch a spot in the playoffs:

1-2 Hugo CALDERANO Tiago APOLONIA -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
2-1 Simon GAUZY Vladimir SIDORENKO -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
3-3 Samuel KULCZYCKI Emmanuel LEBESSON -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -
1-1 Hugo CALDERANO Vladimir SIDORENKO

Looks like Samuel is beating Kanak in practice...

Kid beat Lebesson... seems truly special.


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Didn't watch it but Jah losing to Fang Bo Meng in straight sets does not bode well for any upcoming or ongoing contract talks. 
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Originally posted by Simon_plays Simon_plays wrote:

Didn't watch it but Jah losing to Fang Bo Meng in straight sets does not bode well for any upcoming or ongoing contract talks. 
I think he is just emotionally and mentally exhausted as the end  of the season approaches, nothing a vacation with his friends and family in sunny Cali cannot fix. Many clubs will see that and will pick him up easily because he can't afford to be too nosy re. salary so both upcoming clubs with not much money but a good coaching structure and team spirit and Kanak himself might be able to extract together the best out of his temporary emptiness.

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I watched the match with Fang. Fang made some excellent BH attacks. Kanak was listless and seemed to be searching. Kanak's serves were going long. Probably just the sophomore slump.
When he was under Ulf Carlsson it seems he did better.
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Originally posted by Twiddler Twiddler wrote:

I watched the match with Fang. Fang made some excellent BH attacks. Kanak was listless and seemed to be searching. Kanak's serves were going long. Probably just the sophomore slump.
When he was under Ulf Carlsson it seems he did better.

Hi,

From an important perspective, the European leagues have been a big problem since forever.  Whereas, you may easily observe the improvement in the Chinese players and the Japanese players after attaining world class status (to cite just two contrasts to the point at hand), the Europeans very consistently plateau, stagnating at an impressive-yet-not-the-top level of play.

The term "team" in Europe fails in comparability when used in a context of reference to that found in the top Asian models.  A team in Europe is an assemblage of players that compete typically for a club in a league setting.  Absent a mention and even a presence of training in the European environment reveals this emphasis on competition.

As things now stand, never will the global table tennis hierarchy ever be changed until the respective environments that hold the potential that leads to greatness change.

One paradigm that is helpful is to think of high level table tennis for the player as a confluence of competition and training.  For the individual, evaluating each one distinctively provides developmental clarity.

It is instructive to note that it was reported that the great Werner Schlager recognized this European dilemma in his mid-career period, reflecting this recognition by reducing his league play to concentrate much more on his training and development.  Post this decision, he became world champion.

Though I have not seen public statements in confirmation, very valid suspicions arise from the news of Hugo Calderano's decision to reduce his league participation in the future.  Mr. Calderano is appropriately ambitious.  He is also smart.  An emphasis on league play will not take him where he wants to go.

The table tennis developmental challenge expressed above describes accurately Kanak's state of affairs.  Particularly in individual sports, top coaches have long recognized that what often is effective to attain success in the early years is not effective in the more mature years of the athlete.  The standards are higher, the demands greater, the context more sophisticated.

For Kanak to realize his exceptional potential, he must embrace the truth of his table tennis life.  As he brings to this all of his demonstrated impressive qualities of the capacity for hard labor, his zeal, his commitment, and a sense of the game that has separated him from many, the outlines of one possible future have been previously drawn by decades of other European league athletes.

The word "extraordinary" is a portmanteau of "extra" and "ordinary".  Intrinsic in this word is the answer.

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Calderano joined Ochsenhausen (which includes Liebherr Master College) in 2014 and improved to world #6 during these years. He will continue to live and train in Ochsenhausen, just not compete for the club. Other top players may make a similar decision because of the new WTT format.

Kanak is 4 years younger than Hugo.
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Originally posted by idk idk wrote:

Originally posted by andzejgolot andzejgolot wrote:

karakasevic last year gets easy 0:3 from kulczycki.
Kulczycki plays very similiar to Gerassimienko. 
I think they invest more in his improvement and jha should find new club in 3rd division or something on his level. Btw european players always will be 3-4 times level better than USA players. 

jha is lightyears better than any polish player including kulczycki. 3-4 times level better? are you trolling? how have european players done recently against Zhou Qihao? He took out both Karlsson and Kallberg at the world team cup last year too.

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