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Originally posted by Ray Ray wrote:

New Butterfly blades:

Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC
Franziska Innerforce ZLC
Lin Yun-Ju Super ZLC
Maze Advance

Butterfly Tenergy 19 rubber will be released on March 1.
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Originally posted by windysummer1 windysummer1 wrote:

Here are the pics for the first 3 new BTY blades in 2021.
the FRANZISKA INNERFORCE ZLC is a direct competitor to the Apolonia and the solid IF ZLC. I predict a great career for the blade.
Those blades are beautiful, Butterfly outdid themselves.
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Originally posted by windysummer1 windysummer1 wrote:

Is Maze Advance an all wood blade?

Yes, 5 ply all wood, available with FL handle only.
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Originally posted by aerial aerial wrote:

anyone know if the LYJ SZLC is inner or outer carbon?
The layer is outer

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How come BTY not produce an Inner force with Koto outlayer? 
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Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

How come BTY not produce an Inner force with Koto outlayer? 
I don't want to hype Butterfly, but they seem like a company who are engeneering their blades/rubbers and not just randomly shooting in the dark or copying. So I would imagine they don't measure a benefit to a koto outer layer.

From these blades only the Ovtcharov seems to bring something "new", with slightly thicker blade.
DHS did it with the newer "X" series, and I think even the Harimoto ALC is a thicker than standard Inner ALC. I suppose Ovtcharov has more raw power compared to Harimoto hence the need for stiffer blade.
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Ovtcharov used to use W968, so probably not just another version of Inn Layer alc, but a little more different
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New Mizuno blades:

Fortius FT RE
Fortius FT ver.DE RE
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Ovtcharov is something totally new the first inner fiber alc that is faster and stiffer than outer traditional alc.
Timo Boll ALC FL
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As an Apolonia ZLC fan, the Franziska Innerforce ZLC caught my eye. So now we have in that construction:

They have all limba outer. Are core and medial plies made out the same material, no matter thicknesses?

They already have enough IF ZLC blades to start a collection :)

I played a lot with the original slightly bigger IF ZLC and now with the Apolonia. I have no doubt IF ZLC construction is a winning formula for beginner to intermediate club players. Slow enough to learn fine with slower more controllable rubbers all the way to where they want. 

Hypothesis: The top players go more towards ALC the same way tennis pros go with higher tension: since they have strength and speed in reserve, they prefer predictability with higher tension even though it requires more force into the stroke. The tt pro will prefer ALC for the same reason: less dwell, less elasticity gives more control despite the required additional muscle which they do not lack.


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Theory: The top players go more towards ALC the same way tennis pros go with higher tension: since they have strength and speed in reserve, they prefer predictability with higher tension even though it requires more force into the stroke. The tt pro will prefer ALC for the same reason: less dwell, less elasticity gives more control despite the required additional muscle which they do not lack.

Except for the word "Theory" (should be "hypothesis"), I completely agree. This is also - partly - the reason why advanced players use hard max rubbers (which dampen energy, and not generate energy). 
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LYJ szlc should be identical to ZJK szlc and it should be outer zlc layer.
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Butterfly Europa

New blades:
Boll Forte 2021
Boll Fortissimo
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Originally posted by ThePongProfessor ThePongProfessor wrote:

Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:


Theory: The top players go more towards ALC the same way tennis pros go with higher tension: since they have strength and speed in reserve, they prefer predictability with higher tension even though it requires more force into the stroke. The tt pro will prefer ALC for the same reason: less dwell, less elasticity gives more control despite the required additional muscle which they do not lack.

Except for the word "Theory" (should be "hypothesis"), I completely agree. This is also - partly - the reason why advanced players use hard max rubbers (which dampen energy, and not generate energy). 
edited, thanks! I'm still struggling with my machete when adventuring on the science path.
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[/QUOTE]edited, thanks! I'm still struggling with my machete when adventuring on the science path.[/QUOTE]

No worries. Probably the only word that is more misused than "theory" is "historic" LOL 
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Originally posted by MAR_PL MAR_PL wrote:

Butterfly Europa

New blades:
Boll Forte 2021
Boll Fortissimo
Boll Mezzoforte


Where are they made (in which country)? Thanks.
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Hungary. Does it matter?
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No just curious. Omar Assar is also made in that country. Not sure if OEM is OSP?
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Originally posted by windysummer1 windysummer1 wrote:

No just curious. Omar Assar is also made in that country. Not sure if OEM is OSP?


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Froster, new blade from Sanwei.

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Nice design from Sanwei
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Originally posted by windysummer1 windysummer1 wrote:

http://www.ttshop.cn/goods.php?id=4864,
LOKI FALCON CARBON
INNER CARBON 5+2
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xiom carbon blades with different handle colors and a crystal. 
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