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    Posted: 11/07/2022 at 10:13pm
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And right after Shinopi won singles and doubles at WTT CT Nova Gorica.

https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90856&PID=1120422&title=2021-wttc-houston-usa-nov-2329#1120422
Quote Niwa should have retired along with Mizutani.


http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76840&PID=1128029&title=qiu-dang#1128029
Quote Niwa, despite a few years younger, has had the most first round exits. 6 in a row in 2019. He lost more singles matches than he won in 2016, 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021 while being ranked in the 10s.


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Niwa, really?
It feels that Shinozuka's activity was the final deciding factor, Uda's and Togami's results were not very good either
There was still a chance

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Not sure why he needs to retire when he can just continue to play for fun and entertainment and hopefully get on some moar highlight reels along with Xu Xin!
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He had a very entertaining and creative style. Hope he can enjoy his retirement from international play. 
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Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Not sure why he needs to retire when he can just continue to play for fun and entertainment and hopefully get on some moar highlight reels along with Xu Xin!

From international play - he will still play domestically and in leagues - wouldn't be surprised to see him in Europe.  He has just realized that there are too many juniors coming up so it makes sense to take the pressure off himself and only come back if his form gets to a point where it isn't as much stress.  I suspect if his results justify it, he will come back.  But right now, there are just too many juniors for him to keep that stress on himself.
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Unique and unforgettable - can't say that about too many world-class players


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That special point v. Fan Bo resumes his incredible touch and nonchalance.



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Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Not sure why he needs to retire when he can just continue to play for fun and entertainment and hopefully get on some moar highlight reels along with Xu Xin!

He wanted to retire in 2021 
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Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Unique and unforgettable - can't say that about too many world-class players



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The stat about him losing more singles matches than he won, every year from 2016 till this year [inclusive], with a reprieve in 2017 is galling...and still being a top 10  player.

From the ages of 22 to 28. He'll be remembered for his style sure, but I found him personally very frustrating. He's 52kg, lighter than all the players, yet does the least movement. This impacts his shot %'s immensely, and there's no reason for it. If he's as big as Falck or someone, you can understand mediocre footspeed, Niwa's like a tiny tennis player [Schwartzmann] with the footwork of a John Isner.
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Originally posted by Basquests Basquests wrote:

The stat about him losing more singles matches than he won, every year from 2016 till this year [inclusive], with a reprieve in 2017 is galling...and still being a top 10  player.

From the ages of 22 to 28. He'll be remembered for his style sure, but I found him personally very frustrating. He's 52kg, lighter than all the players, yet does the least movement. This impacts his shot %'s immensely, and there's no reason for it. If he's as big as Falck or someone, you can understand mediocre footspeed, Niwa's like a tiny tennis player [Schwartzmann] with the footwork of a John Isner.

He won once against the great Ma Long xD, not something many players can say they did!
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Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by Basquests Basquests wrote:

The stat about him losing more singles matches than he won, every year from 2016 till this year [inclusive], with a reprieve in 2017 is galling...and still being a top 10  player.

From the ages of 22 to 28. He'll be remembered for his style sure, but I found him personally very frustrating. He's 52kg, lighter than all the players, yet does the least movement. This impacts his shot %'s immensely, and there's no reason for it. If he's as big as Falck or someone, you can understand mediocre footspeed, Niwa's like a tiny tennis player [Schwartzmann] with the footwork of a John Isner.

He won once against the great Ma Long xD, not something many players can say they did!

Sure, but I just feel he's exceptionally overrated.

Losing more than half your matches annually, every year from ages 22 to 28 is quite poor, let alone as a top 10 player.

He also just looks like he doesn't give a crap, and doesn't put in any effort. Even if his hand feeling is good, he gets outworked in movement by every opponent despite being lighter and theoretically having an advantage in footspeed.
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Originally posted by Basquests Basquests wrote:

Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by Basquests Basquests wrote:

The stat about him losing more singles matches than he won, every year from 2016 till this year [inclusive], with a reprieve in 2017 is galling...and still being a top 10  player.

From the ages of 22 to 28. He'll be remembered for his style sure, but I found him personally very frustrating. He's 52kg, lighter than all the players, yet does the least movement. This impacts his shot %'s immensely, and there's no reason for it. If he's as big as Falck or someone, you can understand mediocre footspeed, Niwa's like a tiny tennis player [Schwartzmann] with the footwork of a John Isner.

He won once against the great Ma Long xD, not something many players can say they did!

Sure, but I just feel he's exceptionally overrated.

Losing more than half your matches annually, every year from ages 22 to 28 is quite poor, let alone as a top 10 player.

He also just looks like he doesn't give a crap, and doesn't put in any effort. Even if his hand feeling is good, he gets outworked in movement by every opponent despite being lighter and theoretically having an advantage in footspeed.

Yeah he also kinda gambles where the opponent will give him the ball and gives up when he guesses wrong lol. But if he guesses correctly he is in position earlier than other players which allows him to really put on some spectacular shots. It's a double edged sword which allows him to upset some top players which is how he managed to get such a high ranking. 


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Originally posted by Basquests Basquests wrote:

Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by Basquests Basquests wrote:

The stat about him losing more singles matches than he won, every year from 2016 till this year [inclusive], with a reprieve in 2017 is galling...and still being a top 10  player.

From the ages of 22 to 28. He'll be remembered for his style sure, but I found him personally very frustrating. He's 52kg, lighter than all the players, yet does the least movement. This impacts his shot %'s immensely, and there's no reason for it. If he's as big as Falck or someone, you can understand mediocre footspeed, Niwa's like a tiny tennis player [Schwartzmann] with the footwork of a John Isner.

He won once against the great Ma Long xD, not something many players can say they did!

Sure, but I just feel he's exceptionally overrated.

Losing more than half your matches annually, every year from ages 22 to 28 is quite poor, let alone as a top 10 player.

He also just looks like he doesn't give a crap, and doesn't put in any effort. Even if his hand feeling is good, he gets outworked in movement by every opponent despite being lighter and theoretically having an advantage in footspeed.

He was a player whose largest strengths with serve and serve return got eviscerated by the ball changes as they played less and less like to his style and responded more and more to physical effort/power.  The game literally left him behind after the adaptations to the new ball fully took hold.
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