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    Posted: 11/14/2022 at 10:50am
Hello !

I want to try a pips rubber on my backhand but to be honest i dont know what to get.
Im a lefty and my all life i have been playing with inverted rubbers soo i need something that dont need a big learning curve.

My backhand is like the weak point in my gain i dont attack often soo primarly i need something that is good on blocks, pushes, some counter blocks and good in service returning.


What can you advice? The blade i use is timo boll alc.

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Since you're unsure, keep it cheap. RITC 729 make cheap but effective pimpled rubbers. For short pips I'd suggest 802-40 (very spinny, not much effect) or 802 (less spin, flatter ball) or if you want to even try long pips, 755 (the consensus easiest long pip for beginners).
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Thanks for your reply.

Im probably going to test 802-40.
Anyone have tried Spinlord Waran?
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Hi bent0,

I was in the same boat as you, including being lefty. 

I switched first to 802-40, then Xiom Zava, and have now settled on Spinlord Waran 2. You can watch my review here.
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Hello ThePongProfessor ,

Thanks for the reply!

I have watched the review, really helpfull!
The adaption process was big? since you move from inverted to pips?
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If you have a weak backhand short pips are not for you. Better stick sone slow rubber on like tackiness c or super defense 40
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super defense 40 is not too slow? its good on service returning and blocks?
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Originally posted by bent0 bent0 wrote:

super defense 40 is not too slow? its good on service returning and blocks?

It's slow but great for returning serves and blocks because it absorbs pace. You can also try spinlord sandwind.
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Thanks i probably going to try the spinlord sandwind or the super defense. Witch blade is more apporpriate in this case?
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Your timo boll alc is fine
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Originally posted by Skyline Skyline wrote:

If you have a weak backhand short pips are not for you. Better stick one slow rubber on like tackiness c or super defense 40
Agree. Short pips requires to play aggressively and necessarily taking risks. If you are not confident with your BH then you will not confident enough to play SP well.

If you are really young and ambitious then you should invest into coaching lessons and coaching is limited to double inverted rubbers equipment in most cases.

Classical antispin rubbers (like Yasaka Antipower or Butterfly Super Anti) are the easiest to play with weaker BH if the level of opponents you want to win is not very high. Long pips rubbers are less universal then anti but are more effective for specific passive styles. It is a trap to limit your table tennis to specific LPs styles too early.

I know several intermediate level players with stronger FH and weaker BH that play middle length pips (Dr. Neubauer KO/Aggressor or DRM Power Pipes). Such kind of destructive MPs that are closer to long pips (defensive) then to short pips (primarily offensive) are not easy to learn but they are more effective for mixed passive/active BH play. Technique and strategy playing destructive MPs are somewhat similar to anti so IMO they are natural "upgrade" when you understand the need.
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Hello, I am just a casual player, not an expert tournament player. But I have played for many years against many kinds of players. Some use pimples. I like to use double happiness equipment. They are very good quality and reputation, as you know. I used PF4 rubbers. I am a defender. I can make strong backspin and hit easy balls. Thank you.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kolev Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/23/2022 at 9:31am
recently I played two matches against two type of defenders using the same long pip . I never ever had so many different problems against a long pimple. One of the players was blocker the other player was a defender. The pimple was Der MaterialSpecialist extra long, both versions 
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