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    Posted: 11/16/2022 at 8:46pm
I would dignify this boy with a grand title of White Crocodile, because the rarity of playing style. Again, he eats everyone without much ado.    Yes, he is the only of the kind using Dragon Talon LP for active backhand pushing. He is a real prodigy-pusher never seen before.   You can scarcely name someone else playing similar style. And he is getting better and better all along, reaching up to USATT 2600 or so.
His name is Gleb Shilov 2006 y.o, native of Russia.

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Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

I would dignify this boy with a grand title of White Crocodile, because the rarity of playing style. Again, he eats everyone without much ado.    Yes, he is the only of the kind using Dragon Talon LP for active backhand pushing. He is a real prodigy-pusher never seen before.   You can scarcely name someone else playing similar style. And he is getting better and better all along, reaching up to USATT 2600 or so.
His name is Gleb Shilov 2006 y.o, native of Russia.

Shilov is joined with a pro team 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

   Early days 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
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What a fun style to watch.  I think if you played him a few times he might be easier to beat, but very tough to beat the first time.
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Interesting style, nearly all backhands are a side swipe
Some things I don't like is the cho-ing after hitting the net and winning, and the follow up clapping

The way he sometimes puts his left hand up a little just before his opponent serves

The starting place of his serves, maybe a International Russian umpire may know more?, 
 he starts with the ball and hand way under the table briefly stops and then serves, seems a bit continued and not in good practice of the law?,
 can others walk/run in from 3 meters back or do a spin before a serve or jump up then serve

 but as a long pimple player myself he is someone to learn from
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Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:


What a fun style to watch.  I think if you played him a few times he might be easier to beat, but very tough to beat the first time.

Where did you see the fun here? High balls with lot of spin are making him looking like a starting player.
Not a good moving with the legs is also far away the fun. This type "wooden" styles with the same strokes all the time is much more boring than some fun. His limits are already done with this style.
If the boy has not some body problems I think his coach just ignored him during training.

I am usually "FOR" if the pips and wooden style of playing can keep the children in the halls for table tennis, but for a pity, we can not talk for fun to watch such kind of activity.

Something else I noticed - that boy is too emotional, like he lives for table tennis.
When he meets better players in time he will realize badly that the sport is not only pushing with the pips. Hope that fact will make him working more on his moving and attacking strokes with forehand topspin.
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Originally posted by kolevtt kolevtt wrote:

Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:


What a fun style to watch.  I think if you played him a few times he might be easier to beat, but very tough to beat the first time.

Where did you see the fun here? High balls with lot of spin are making him looking like a starting player.
Not a good moving with the legs is also far away the fun. This type "wooden" styles with the same strokes all the time is much more boring than some fun. His limits are already done with this style.
If the boy has not some body problems I think his coach just ignored him during training.

I am usually "FOR" if the pips and wooden style of playing can keep the children in the halls for table tennis, but for a pity, we can not talk for fun to watch such kind of activity.

Something else I noticed - that boy is too emotional, like he lives for table tennis.
When he meets better players in time he will realize badly that the sport is not only pushing with the pips. Hope that fact will make him working more on his moving and attacking strokes with forehand topspin.

I would be willing to bet he has a pretty good forehand and would bring it out if he was playing another long pips player or someone baiting him to hit.  But as long as this opponent kept looping into his pips, he was content to keep pushing.
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The noisy stork seems like a better name for him.
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Very cool playing style, reminds me a lot of Zhou Xintong who also made extensive use of LP sideswiping and lots of nasty attacks and angles. He doesn't play too passive with the pips, the shots are taken early and placed very well, and he deals very well with long serves. 
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Very interesting playing style.  He must have amazing hands.  The way he holds his arms, I wonder if he has some sort of a joint related disability.  The depth and pace control he has is really quite remarkable.  While his footwork is not pretty, he is nearly always able to keep his body right behind the contact point on his BH.

One of Russian coaches who has an online channel, Artem Utochkin, had a video a couple of years ago about him. It is good to see that the guy is progressing and getting better.
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