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Hello Everyone,
 
I've been wanting to post this for quite sometime now but was waiting for my vintage paddles to arrive.  One arrived today and the other will arrive in the next day or two.
 
My name is Navin and I have a unique, special story to share.  I was born with a congenital heart condition and I'm a survivor of 5 open heart surgeries.  My heart is partly mechanical now and made of carbon fiber (the same material that many of today's paddles have layers of).
Doctors didn't think I'd survive my last surgery and I was engaged to my wife at the time so with a lot of love and a lot of praying I lived to see the day I married the woman of my dreams and lived to see the days I got to hold my 2 baby girls in the hospital after they were born.
 
To show my gratitude for being alive, I have dedicated the rest of my life to raising heart awareness and inspiring others to maintain a healthy heart.  I do this in 2 special ways...
 
1)  I customize BMW cars as a hobby and I've modified my twin screw supercharged BMW 323i sedan with the same carbon fiber material in the hopes of telling people my heart story and raising awareness for congenital heart conditions and inspiring folks to maintain a healthy heart.
I've been featured in magazines, newspaper, and television (MTV interviewed me last year at a car show in Chicago but I'm not sure when it aired on TV)
You can see my online feature links below:
Eurotuner Magazine Feature
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Washington Examiner Newspaper Feature
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/Check-Out-My-Ride-Carbon-fiber-close-to-this-customizers-heart-42690682.html
 
2)  The second way is thru my recent table tennis sponsorship with Paddle Palace.  My goal here is to promote the sport of table tennis as being good for the heart, plus I've been away from the game now for 20 years (went thru a long "burned out" phase) until recently while on a cruise to Bermuda with my wife and her family, my brother-in-law and I won the cruise's doubles table tennis tournament and we did this despite a knee injury I was suffering at that time (I'm completely better now though).  My goal is to improve my game playing (I'm being coached by a former #1 ranked U.S. player, Cheng Yinghua) and hopefully lose weight and keep my heart healthy.
 
I've always had a fondness for vintage paddles... my dad bought and still has an original Dunlop Barna paddle that he bought new back in the 1950s in India which he has now given to my younger brother. 
 
Recently I had the honor of purchasing on eBay a vintage brand new 1960s Stiga Kjell Johansson blue stickered paddle with the original Yasaka red Cobra rubber still intact from a collector in Sweden (who is like a brother to me) who had kept that paddle and many others including several identical Johansson paddles that are blue stickered and red stickered all in storage for all these years.
 
I received it today in the mail and I'm just AMAZED with the quality of the paddle.  With rubber it weighs 160grams and as the seller told me (he's an expert when it comes to Stiga history), the wood used on these older 60s and early 70s Johansson, Alser, and Bengtsson paddles all originally came from the Amazon rainforest trees until laws were enacted making it illegal to cut down trees from the rainforest.  Also I learned that the red stickered Johansson paddle was geared more as a defensive to all around paddle while the blue stickered Johansson paddle like what I got was geared more as an offensive paddle. 
 
I have a second vintage paddle arriving in the next day or so from fellow forum member, "Emihet"... a 1940s Stigma Star paddle.  For those of you who don't know, Stiga used to be called Stigma and became Stiga back in 1949.  The Stigma Star paddle has the old archer symbol that Stigma used and Stiga briefly used before changing to their current logo.
 
Pictures are below...
 
I've heard that these stickers on these types of vintage paddles are notorious for coming off quickly.  I'm considering applying a thin coat of clear coat lacquer to the handle on all sides in the hopes of preserving the stickers and preventing my hand sweat from loosening the stickers.
If you look closely you can see at the top of the blue Johansson sticker where there is a small separation in the sticker, that's where one of the 2 nail holes is.
The second nail hole is actually below the "K" sticker but above the "c" in the "backside topspin" sticker.
This blade feels great to hold... very substantial in your hand and it's my first straight handled blade I've owned... all my other ones were flared handles.
Most likely due to the pressure deepening at the 11 o'clock position on the rubber as you can see in the pics, I'll be changing the rubber to Yasaka Mark V rubber in 1.8 thickness.  The Yasaka Cobra rubber isn't on the list of approved ITTF rubbers at this moment.



Backside... no stickers
I'm planning on using my soon-to-have Stigma Star paddle as my dedicated hardbat paddle and switch out the rubber to Yasaka Cobalt Alpha.
Afterall, from a historical standpoint, Stigma/Stiga used Yasaka rubber for quite sometime in the old days.

I'd like to end my post with some recent pics of my infant daughter's 1st experience with table tennis
The paddle is a Donic Waldner Black Devil with black Stiga Carbo Sound rubber on the forehand and Butterfly Tackiness Chop on the backhand.
I didn't like the feel of this paddle so I'll be giving this paddle to my brother-in-law as a gift to him.
I'm debating whether to use the same Paddle Palace edgetape with my new Johansson paddle, or use the Stiga edgetape.
I'd hate to accidently hit my Johansson paddle edge against the table and put a nick or crack in it, hence why I'd want to use edgetape as a precaution

 
Thanks for looking.  Smile
 
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Great to meet you, Yogi and thanks for the nice compliment!
 
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That is a nice blade,my Dunlop vintage blade is coming, I'll post some pictures later.
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Yasaka Cobra was a popular choice for use with Stiga blades, in the past and you can still buy Cobra today; however, it was rebranded as Stiga Cobra 2000, some time ago and yes, it is on the ITTF list.

Cobra is a good choice to start beginners on because it's an allround rubber and you'll find it is cheaper than Mark V.

Stiga also used to match up the Kjell Johansson with Mark V too and that is a better rubber choice than Cobra 2000.


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Originally posted by joris joris wrote:

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That is a nice blade,my Dunlop vintage blade is coming, I'll post some pictures later.
 
Thanks Joris!  I can't wait to see your Dunlop vintage blade.  May I ask which specific one you're getting or is it a surprise?  Smile
 
Take care, my friend.
 
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Originally posted by Peter C Peter C wrote:

Navin

Yasaka Cobra was a popular choice for use with Stiga blades, in the past and you can still buy Cobra today; however, it was rebranded as Stiga Cobra 2000, some time ago and yes, it is on the ITTF list.

Cobra is a good choice to start beginners on because it's an allround rubber and you'll find it is cheaper than Mark V.

Stiga also used to match up the Kjell Johansson with Mark V too and that is a better rubber choice than Cobra 2000.


 
Hey Peter!
 
Wow... I had no idea that the Yasaka Cobra was rebranded as Stiga Cobra 2000... I do remember seeing the Stiga Cobra 2000 on the ITTF list, but assumed it was a different rubber altogether.
 
Yeah, I'm not a beginner player so I'm planning on getting the Mark V rubber in 1.8 to offset the aggressive qualities of the blue stickered paddle (more about that in a bit) to give me some extra control.
 
I'm definitely aware of how the Johansson paddle was using Mark V too... in fact, those paddles that came with the Mark V would actually have the Mark V sticker on the handle instead of the "K" like mine... the ITTF Museum site has a picture of the Mark V version of the Johansson blue stickered paddle.
 
Going back to the blue stickered Johansson paddle characteristics, I'm pasting below what my friend in Sweden who sold me the paddle said to me...
 
"The blue Kjell is an aggressive bat, even more aggressive then the Stiga Clippers from the 80´s and similar to the Stiga Legend (I have one for sale on eBay now) You need to practice a lot of hitting the ball with much force, if you don´t bring the speed in the arm before hitting the ball, you will loose a bit of control. The weight will help you to return the serve, but you need to be in attack mode in most common plays."
 
Also, he pointed out there's a reason why the edge of the blue sticker on my Johansson paddle near the nail hole is slightly imperfect in that area as per the pictures I posted here... he told me,
 
"When the Kjell, Stellan and Hans Alsers bats were sold new in stores back in the days, the stickers was not perfect, they were attached by hand and the sticker is so thin that the slightest mistake from the Stiga staff resulted in a not so perfect sticker. Almost every bat with these thin stickers are not the same if you look carefully, but that is also a historical sign of the craftmanship and is added value to every specific bat! Correct, your bat was one of the more intact stickers to be sold."
 
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One question that I'm hoping you all, but particularly those of you who have the similar vintage Johansson, Alser, or Bengtsson paddles from the late 60s and early 70s... what have you done to try and preserve the stickers on the handle?
 
The more I play with the paddle the stickers will come off due to hand sweat.  Putting grip tape or the rubber handle covers will probably cause the stickers to loosen as well due to the grip tape or cover twisting around the stickers when gripping the handle while playing with the paddle.
 
One option I'm considering is to apply a thin layer of clear coat lacquer (the spray kind) but would be concerned if the clear coat would lessen the feeling of the handle and make it more slippery.
 
The other option is for me to just play with the paddle and as I notice the stickers getting loose I can just glue the stickers back on using epoxy. 
 
Thoughts?  Other options?
 
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If I were you, I will put this vintage blade on the glass box and display it as decoration.
Sealing the handle to preserve the sticker is not a good option, the design of the handle will be slippery if you seal it.
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Originally posted by peter79 peter79 wrote:

If I were you, I will put this vintage blade on the glass box and display it as decoration.
Sealing the handle to preserve the sticker is not a good option, the design of the handle will be slippery if you seal it.
 
Hey Peter!  Nice to see some members here from Indonesia... I'm originally from India myself.  Smile
 
I have no plans to sell this blade.  After having gotten into a bidding war for this paddle I paid quite a bit for this paddle, too much to have it sit in a display case collecting dust.  Wink
 
No sir... I plan on playing with this paddle as my main paddle.  These paddles were meant to be played with.  When I'm too old to play this game anymore I'll pass my vintage paddles down to my kids or grandkids.  Basically I'll keep the paddles within my family as an heirlooms to pass down.
 
I agree... sealing the blade with clear coat will definitely make the handle more slippery which I don't want, though I could put grip tape on it to make it not slippery.
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Originally posted by joris joris wrote:

I agree with Peter79
 
I hear you, but as I said before, I bought this paddle to play with it and not to keep it locked up in a display case.  A good analogy would be my experiences in the car customizing industry.  I know many people on the show car circuit who customize their cars but at the end of the day they keep their cars... either vintage or modern all locked up and not driven at all.  Me on the other hand... I prefer to not only show my car but drive it as my daily driver... cars were meant to be driven, and in the case of BMWs, they are indeed the "Ultimate Driving Machine" as their motto states.  Smile
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Originally posted by Navin323i Navin323i wrote:

 
Hey Peter!  Nice to see some members here from Indonesia... I'm originally from India myself.  Smile
 
I have no plans to sell this blade.  After having gotten into a bidding war for this paddle I paid quite a bit for this paddle, too much to have it sit in a display case collecting dust.  Wink
 
No sir... I plan on playing with this paddle as my main paddle.  These paddles were meant to be played with.  When I'm too old to play this game anymore I'll pass my vintage paddles down to my kids or grandkids.  Basically I'll keep the paddles within my family as an heirlooms to pass down.
 
I agree... sealing the blade with clear coat will definitely make the handle more slippery which I don't want, though I could put grip tape on it to make it not slippery.


Yes, Many Indonesians visiting this forum, but only a few become a member and post regularly Smile
The owner of Butterfly Distributor in Indonesia is also Indian.

Btw you have a very cute daughter!!! how old is she? my daughter is celebrating her 1st birthday this month Tongue

About this vintage blade, probably it's not made for today's modern game era, that's why I suggest you to keep it as an antique collection.
I've tried the DHS PF4 08 blade for shakehand, the handle is so slippery and wierd, and it's very heavy.
I suggest you to try all wood blades like Hurricane King, Hurricane King 655, Acoustic, Violin.
Nittaku Latika or Nexy Lissom are new blades that performs well for water based era.
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Hello Navin,
welcome here. I was sincerely touched to read your story and also a bit worried. Worried because I always thought that Table tennis and heart diseases weren't good friends. But of course, I am not a doctor and I am sure that you and your doctors know things much better than I do. I wish you all the best  for many years of happy tt playing.
 
Now, back to your question. Here is a sister blade of yours :
 

By null at 2010-05-28
 
You can see that my blue sticker is even more dammaged than yours.
I, of course, share peter's opinion re non playing with it. I don't either. I cherrish the blade and looking at it every day exposed in my unit is good enough for me.
However, I couldn't resist trying it 2 or 3 times and was also concerned about the blue sticker longevity. I just wrapped and old tennis overgrip around the handle and it went through w/o any problem. I advise you, if you choose this option, not to put a new and sticky overgrip because when you'll take it off, it might also take some sticker off with it. Choose a used one or a non sticky model.
That were my 2 cents. Cheers.
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Originally posted by peter79 peter79 wrote:

Originally posted by Navin323i Navin323i wrote:

 
Hey Peter!  Nice to see some members here from Indonesia... I'm originally from India myself.  Smile
 
I have no plans to sell this blade.  After having gotten into a bidding war for this paddle I paid quite a bit for this paddle, too much to have it sit in a display case collecting dust.  Wink
 
No sir... I plan on playing with this paddle as my main paddle.  These paddles were meant to be played with.  When I'm too old to play this game anymore I'll pass my vintage paddles down to my kids or grandkids.  Basically I'll keep the paddles within my family as an heirlooms to pass down.
 
I agree... sealing the blade with clear coat will definitely make the handle more slippery which I don't want, though I could put grip tape on it to make it not slippery.


Yes, Many Indonesians visiting this forum, but only a few become a member and post regularly Smile
The owner of Butterfly Distributor in Indonesia is also Indian.

Btw you have a very cute daughter!!! how old is she? my daughter is celebrating her 1st birthday this month Tongue

About this vintage blade, probably it's not made for today's modern game era, that's why I suggest you to keep it as an antique collection.
I've tried the DHS PF4 08 blade for shakehand, the handle is so slippery and wierd, and it's very heavy.
I suggest you to try all wood blades like Hurricane King, Hurricane King 655, Acoustic, Violin.
Nittaku Latika or Nexy Lissom are new blades that performs well for water based era.
 
Hey Peter!  Glad to hear there are more Indonesians on here and that the owner of the Butterfly Distributor is also Indian... there are so many wonderful similarities between our 2 cultures both on a social and religious level... truly wonderful.  Smile
 
What a coincidence... my younger daughter will be celebrating her 1st birthday this month too!  Her birthday is October 27th... when is your daughter's birthday?
 
Actually, the vintage 1960s Stiga paddles are definitely made for today's modern game era, provided of course the rubber is changed.  My paddle came with the Yasaka Cobra, which according to the other Peter on here is now the Stiga Cobra 2000 and there are certainly better rubbers out there as you already know.
 
Not sure if you saw my earlier post in this thread where I wrote what my friend from Sweden who sold me this paddle said... here is what he said again in regards to my specific Johansson paddle:

"The blue Kjell is an aggressive bat, even more aggressive then the Stiga Clippers from the 80´s and similar to the Stiga Legend (I have one for sale on eBay now) You need to practice a lot of hitting the ball with much force, if you don´t bring the speed in the arm before hitting the ball, you will loose a bit of control. The weight will help you to return the serve, but you need to be in attack mode in most common plays."

Ultimately I'd like to try the Tenergy rubber on this bat and see how it plays with it but for now I'm going to stay consistent historically and go with the classic Mark V rubber.
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Originally posted by jcdi jcdi wrote:

Hello Navin,
welcome here. I was sincerely touched to read your story and also a bit worried. Worried because I always thought that Table tennis and heart diseases weren't good friends. But of course, I am not a doctor and I am sure that you and your doctors know things much better than I do. I wish you all the best  for many years of happy tt playing.
 
Now, back to your question. Here is a sister blade of yours :
 

By null at 2010-05-28
 
You can see that my blue sticker is even more dammaged than yours.
I, of course, share peter's opinion re non playing with it. I don't either. I cherrish the blade and looking at it every day exposed in my unit is good enough for me.
However, I couldn't resist trying it 2 or 3 times and was also concerned about the blue sticker longevity. I just wrapped and old tennis overgrip around the handle and it went through w/o any problem. I advise you, if you choose this option, not to put a new and sticky overgrip because when you'll take it off, it might also take some sticker off with it. Choose a used one or a non sticky model.
That were my 2 cents. Cheers.
 
Hey jcdi!  I've enjoyed reading many of your posts on here... you are certainly very well knowledged and I look forward to getting to know you on here... thanks for the warm welcome!
My worksite is blocking whatever site you posted your pics to, so I'll have to wait until I get home later today to see your pics.  Smile
 
I definitely respect your opinion and the others here who all advised me not to play with this paddle, but I'm so in love with this paddle and want to play with it.
 
HOWEVER... you all got me thinking and I've decided that my OTHER vintage paddle... the Stigma Star... since it's older and definitely a lot more rare than the Stiga 1960s stickered paddles like we both have, I'll not play with that Stigma paddle and I'll either keep it as a collectible, or if a collector comes along who really wants my Stigma paddle and has something I really want then I'd be willing to trade.  Smile
 
Great idea about the non-sticky grip tape... another idea that just popped in my head... there are these clear, waterproof bandages that you can apply to wounds... since it's clear and waterproof I wonder if that might be an option for me to just put one of those on the stickered side of my handle to protect the stickers.  It would also keep my hand sweat off the stickers too.  Only downside would be if the bandage ever came off then it would take the stickers off with it too.
 
Off-topic, but who is the lady in your avatar pic?  She looks very familiar.
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Originally posted by jcdi jcdi wrote:

Hello Navin,
I was sincerely touched to read your story and also a bit worried. Worried because I always thought that Table tennis and heart diseases weren't good friends. But of course, I am not a doctor and I am sure that you and your doctors know things much better than I do. I wish you all the best  for many years of happy tt playing.
 
 
Ooops... I forgot to address this part of your post.  Thanks for enjoying my story and I hope it inspires you to a lifetime of good heart health first of all.
 
Let me ease your worrying, my friend.  My cardiac doctors have encouraged me to exercise to keep the weight off and stay in good health overall.  Now keep in mind that not everyone with heart-related issues can play table tennis... this will depend on various factors including:
 
1)  The nature of the person's heart condition and whether table tennis would be an appropriate activity for this person - this person would need to get clearance from his/her doctor, which is something I strongly advise people... always check with their doctor before engaging in any sort of physical activity.
 
2)  The INTENSITY of how they play table tennis can be a factor as to whether the person with heart ailment can play or not.  If playing on a recreational level for fun then maybe that would be an option (again with doctor's approval), but playing on a competitive tournament level against professional-caliber players may or may not be possible for the person with heart ailment.
 
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Hey Peter!  Glad to hear there are more Indonesians on here and that the owner of the Butterfly Distributor is also Indian... there are so many wonderful similarities between our 2 cultures both on a social and religious level... truly wonderful.  Smile
 
What a coincidence... my younger daughter will be celebrating her 1st birthday this month too!  Her birthday is October 27th... when is your daughter's birthday?
 
Actually, the vintage 1960s Stiga paddles are definitely made for today's modern game era, provided of course the rubber is changed.  My paddle came with the Yasaka Cobra, which according to the other Peter on here is now the Stiga Cobra 2000 and there are certainly better rubbers out there as you already know.
 
Not sure if you saw my earlier post in this thread where I wrote what my friend from Sweden who sold me this paddle said... here is what he said again in regards to my specific Johansson paddle:

"The blue Kjell is an aggressive bat, even more aggressive then the Stiga Clippers from the 80´s and similar to the Stiga Legend (I have one for sale on eBay now) You need to practice a lot of hitting the ball with much force, if you don´t bring the speed in the arm before hitting the ball, you will loose a bit of control. The weight will help you to return the serve, but you need to be in attack mode in most common plays."

Ultimately I'd like to try the Tenergy rubber on this bat and see how it plays with it but for now I'm going to stay consistent historically and go with the classic Mark V rubber.


Your daughter is 1 day older than my daughter Tongue
Her birthday is on 28th October....

Oh, you're probably right. At 1960s the rubber isn't as fast as nowadays WBG rubbers.
So the blade although it's not carbon, must be a faster modern era all wood blade.
So Mark V is fast enough for it. Could you please compare the speed of your Johanson blade to current modern all wood blades like Korbel, Clipper, Mazunov?
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Originally posted by peter79 peter79 wrote:

Originally posted by Navin323i Navin323i wrote:

Hey Peter!  Glad to hear there are more Indonesians on here and that the owner of the Butterfly Distributor is also Indian... there are so many wonderful similarities between our 2 cultures both on a social and religious level... truly wonderful.  Smile
 
What a coincidence... my younger daughter will be celebrating her 1st birthday this month too!  Her birthday is October 27th... when is your daughter's birthday?
 
Actually, the vintage 1960s Stiga paddles are definitely made for today's modern game era, provided of course the rubber is changed.  My paddle came with the Yasaka Cobra, which according to the other Peter on here is now the Stiga Cobra 2000 and there are certainly better rubbers out there as you already know.
 
Not sure if you saw my earlier post in this thread where I wrote what my friend from Sweden who sold me this paddle said... here is what he said again in regards to my specific Johansson paddle:

"The blue Kjell is an aggressive bat, even more aggressive then the Stiga Clippers from the 80´s and similar to the Stiga Legend (I have one for sale on eBay now) You need to practice a lot of hitting the ball with much force, if you don´t bring the speed in the arm before hitting the ball, you will loose a bit of control. The weight will help you to return the serve, but you need to be in attack mode in most common plays."

Ultimately I'd like to try the Tenergy rubber on this bat and see how it plays with it but for now I'm going to stay consistent historically and go with the classic Mark V rubber.


Your daughter is 1 day older than my daughter Tongue
Her birthday is on 28th October....

Oh, you're probably right. At 1960s the rubber isn't as fast as nowadays WBG rubbers.
So the blade although it's not carbon, must be a faster modern era all wood blade.
So Mark V is fast enough for it. Could you please compare the speed of your Johanson blade to current modern all wood blades like Korbel, Clipper, Mazunov?
 
Wow!  How nice that our daughters are only 1 day apart in age!!  Big smile
 
Yes, the person who sold me the Johansson is an expert with Stiga paddles which is something he has collected his whole life and played with as well.  The blue stickered Johansson paddle like what I and JCDI have is a very offensive-oriented blade.  The red stickered Johansson paddle (I believe he's selling some right now on eBay) is a more defensive/all-around oriented blade.
 
I want to have a good amount of control with this paddle in addition to the speed, so I'll be going with Yasaka Mark V in 1.8 thickness, unless you can convince me why I should go with 2.0 instead?
 
I've never played with any of the blades you mentioned (Korbel, Clipper, and Mazunov) but maybe JCDI can comment?
 
My Swedish friend did indicate in his quote that I pasted that it plays more aggressively than the Clippers from the 1980s... unless you're asking about the Clippers of today.
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I've decided to buy another vintage Stiga paddle from the 1960s... either a red stickered Johansson paddle or red stickered Alser paddle for my youngest daughter, Rohini.
 
Rohini, in addition to being the name of my "nakshatram" or constellation of stars I was born under in the Indian astrological system (similar concept to what we in the U.S. call the zodiac), also means "red".
 
Therefore as a birthday present to my soon to be 1 year old daughter, I'll get her a red stickered Stiga Johansson or Alser paddle so she can learn the game and do so in style, LOL.  Wink 
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GOT SOME GOODIES IN THE MAIL BOTH YESTERDAY AND TODAY...
 
Stigma Star paddle arrived from Emihet and I bought a vintage 1950s Table Tennis Robot that still works but uses the pre-2001 sized table tennis balls... no biggie since I still have quite a bit of those balls laying around.  The person who sold me the robot not only lives near me but also makes table tennis paddles and is a hardbat player who trained under the great Marty Reisman!
 
Therefore as a special gift for my 6 year old daughter, my friend who sold me the robot also sent her a sandpaper paddle which I had him autograph for her.  Apparently sandpaper table tennis is making a strong comeback and there are some high tech carbon sandpaper paddles that will be coming out soon which I'm excited to see and play with.  Smile
 
Pictures are below... will take better pics of the robot itself next week since I'll be going out of town tomorrow on vacation.
 



 
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Originally posted by jcdi jcdi wrote:

 
Now, back to your question. Here is a sister blade of yours :
 

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You can see that my blue sticker is even more dammaged than yours.
I, of course, share peter's opinion re non playing with it. I don't either. I cherrish the blade and looking at it every day exposed in my unit is good enough for me.
However, I couldn't resist trying it 2 or 3 times and was also concerned about the blue sticker longevity. I just wrapped and old tennis overgrip around the handle and it went through w/o any problem. I advise you, if you choose this option, not to put a new and sticky overgrip because when you'll take it off, it might also take some sticker off with it. Choose a used one or a non sticky model.
That were my 2 cents. Cheers.
 
Hey!  I happened to see your pics when I went home for lunch... beautiful Johansson paddle you have there!
 
One thing you should know about these stickered Stiga paddles and again I quote my Swedish friend...
 
"When the Kjell, Stellan and Hans Alsers bats were sold new in stores back in the days, the stickers was not perfect, they were attached by hand and the sticker is so thin that the slightest mistake from the Stiga staff resulted in a not so perfect sticker. Almost every bat with these thin stickers are not the same if you look carefully, but that is also a historical sign of the craftmanship and is added value to every specific bat!"
 
Your blue sticker looks fine to me... the "Stiga - Made in Sweden" sticker definitely looks like it has shifted a bit over the years.  Are you the original owner of this paddle and if not then did you buy the paddle in it's current condition?
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Originally posted by Navin323i Navin323i wrote:

Actually, the vintage 1960s Stiga paddles are definitely made for today's modern game era, provided of course the rubber is changed.  My paddle came with the Yasaka Cobra, which according to the other Peter on here is now the Stiga Cobra 2000 and there are certainly better rubbers out there as you already know.
 
Not sure if you saw my earlier post in this thread where I wrote what my friend from Sweden who sold me this paddle said... here is what he said again in regards to my specific Johansson paddle:

"The blue Kjell is an aggressive bat, even more aggressive then the Stiga Clippers from the 80´s and similar to the Stiga Legend (I have one for sale on eBay now) You need to practice a lot of hitting the ball with much force, if you don´t bring the speed in the arm before hitting the ball, you will loose a bit of control. The weight will help you to return the serve, but you need to be in attack mode in most common plays."

Ultimately I'd like to try the Tenergy rubber on this bat and see how it plays with it but for now I'm going to stay consistent historically and go with the classic Mark V rubber.
I think blue or red sticker doesn't make a big difference. What differs is the blade's thickness and weight. Mine is a rare one, over 100gr and 6.0mm thick. You can find Johansson's blades from 75gr, 5.4mm thick to my extremity. From all+ to off+. Size also varies a lot depending of batch and years. You have to remember that these blades were mostly made manually and thing were highly varying  at that time. Quality control didn't exist, only skills and dedication, which are good enough to me...
Hope yours will meet your expectations...If not, remember what Peter said about the glass box...?
 
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The Lady in my avatar picture (oddly enough) is also named Johansson, like our favourite 's blade. Her first name is Scarlett and she's an actress I like much.
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I think forum member erikson45 has the same blade.

Nobody really knows the exact value of a rare blade until it sells but in your opinion, how much can the owner of such a Stiga Kjell Johansson ask?

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Originally posted by jcdi jcdi wrote:

Originally posted by Navin323i Navin323i wrote:

Actually, the vintage 1960s Stiga paddles are definitely made for today's modern game era, provided of course the rubber is changed.  My paddle came with the Yasaka Cobra, which according to the other Peter on here is now the Stiga Cobra 2000 and there are certainly better rubbers out there as you already know.
 
Not sure if you saw my earlier post in this thread where I wrote what my friend from Sweden who sold me this paddle said... here is what he said again in regards to my specific Johansson paddle:

"The blue Kjell is an aggressive bat, even more aggressive then the Stiga Clippers from the 80´s and similar to the Stiga Legend (I have one for sale on eBay now) You need to practice a lot of hitting the ball with much force, if you don´t bring the speed in the arm before hitting the ball, you will loose a bit of control. The weight will help you to return the serve, but you need to be in attack mode in most common plays."

Ultimately I'd like to try the Tenergy rubber on this bat and see how it plays with it but for now I'm going to stay consistent historically and go with the classic Mark V rubber.
I think blue or red sticker doesn't make a big difference. What differs is the blade's thickness and weight. Mine is a rare one, over 100gr and 6.0mm thick. You can find Johansson's blades from 75gr, 5.4mm thick to my extremity. From all+ to off+. Size also varies a lot depending of batch and years. You have to remember that these blades were mostly made manually and thing were highly varying  at that time. Quality control didn't exist, only skills and dedication, which are good enough to me...
Hope yours will meet your expectations...If not, remember what Peter said about the glass box...?
 
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The Lady in my avatar picture (oddly enough) is also named Johansson, like our favourite 's blade. Her first name is Scarlett and she's an actress I like much.
 
Initially I too didn't think the blue or red sticker made any difference but it does... the more aggressive Johansson paddles had a blue sticker put on it, while the more defensive to all around paddles were given the red sticker.  Again, I'm going by what my "expert" Stiga collector buddy told me... his Stiga collection is so massive and unique given all his paddles are in new condition and he's selling many of them on eBay now.
 
Looks like my Johansson paddle falls into the same rare category as yours... 160 grams (love the weight of my paddle)... haven't measured the blade thickness though.  Correct... these were all hand made (hence the variations in sticker condition) and the wood came from Amazon Rainforest wood, which I find pretty neat considering you can't obtain wood from there anymore (not legally anyhow).
I hope yours will meet your expectations too... no glass box for me... haha!!!!
 
What is your opinion of what thickness Mark V rubber to go with... 1.8 or 2.0?
I think with 1.8 I'll have the added benefit of more control which will be good considering the high aggressiveness of the blue stickered Johansson blade.
 
That's right... she's Scarlet Johansson.  Good thing I didn't assume the avatar picture was a picture of you... that would have been embarassing of me to say that you're cute... haha!!!  :-)
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That's right... she's Scarlet Johansson. 

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here is my favorite pic of her


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^^^  Haha!  Funny picture, Fatt.  LOL
 
In answer to your earlier question (and I apologize since I missed seeing it earlier), just to give you an idea how much an unplayed with Johansson, Alser, and Bengtsson paddles are going for... check out the eBay listings right now for a user by the name of "Mrscandinavian".  He's my good friend that I bought my new, unplayed with Johansson paddle.  Based on his previous eBay sales he's gotten anywhere from the mid $100s to mid/high $200s for some paddles, and his more rare paddles are going for a lot more... he has a couple of really rare paddles that has a buy it now of $700... way too much for my budget, but I'm sure there are collectors out there who would be willing to buy these paddles.
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Off topic : @fatt, you traitor ! How dare you showing such infamous pictures of Scarlett ? BTW, looks like a make up joke or a photoshop work. I doubt she would show herself that way, except maybe to make fun out of the paparazzis.
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even wearing an empty flour bag  with all the acne of the world she would still look stunning...some human beings are just like that...Cry
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