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    Posted: 02/22/2007 at 5:22pm
A simple question from a lifetime 1 ply Hinoki user.

From a physics perspective, what exactly does a 'SOFT' feel mean?  I know that it means to me in terms of feel but from a physics point of view, what exactly does a soft feel do?

i.e. Does the ball linger a bit on the surface on the blade more ? Does it give a higher throw?  Is it less powerful?  Does it happen when higher frequency vibrations get absorbed by the blade? 

Also, I read some players preferring a harder feel over a softer feel.  Why?  For me, it seems I'd take as soft a feel as possible given a particular level of power I want.

Curious.

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Different wood types have different densities. Less dense = softer.
I dunno, does that make sense?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rodey_Maggot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02/22/2007 at 6:44pm
uhm...its like...if the blade is soft , the frecuency of the blade is lower, so the vibrations are more long lasting,...so you can feel the ball for along time, and the ball con get more deep into de blade.
i guess that's a reason
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well your 1 ply hinoki will probably be soft and fairly stiff. Soft feel basically means what it implies a softer feeling. Softer generally means higher throw because more dwell time. However its not as simple as that . take for example a 5 ply blade the outer plies maybe soft but the other 3 hard. Therefore initially it will have a soft feel but the harder u hit the harder the feel as the ball is being absorbed deeper by the blade and reaching the harder inner plies instead of just for example a brushing loop where only the outer plies would absorb the ball. So generally speaking people with softer strokes like a loop with more spin than speed, chops etc.. would prefer a softer blade. Whereas people with harder hits, smashes, loopkills etc.. would prefer a harder blade. But a blade could feel hard because of the hard outer plies in reality it is actually softer the harder u hit because of thin soft inner plies. But u could have a thick soft innner plies which is soft but stiff and thick which would be better for hard hitter than a soft thin inner ply which is not thick/stiff..
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Thanks for the repliles.  Yes, I'm talking about 1 ply Hinoki primarily but other comments helpful too.  Incidentally, I don't think soft is tied to density.  I have to identical blades .  Idential in thickness, model/make and  weight.  So they are identical  density.  However, one  clearly feels softer than the other.  It also has less power apparently .  Still, not sure what that soft feel really means from a  physics point of view in terms of dwell time etc. 

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Less rebound from sponge
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It basically means that the sponge is less resilient.
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I think two blades would only be visually identical, because even if they are from the same brand and model, the material can be originated from different tree or different part of tree with different density, age and other different qualities. Therefore if I buy a replacement blade from same model, I will not get 100% exact performance but I should expect some slight difference. This is only my opinion though.
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