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gekogark1212 
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I'm confused as to what else to train for.
I mean once you've got everything together is the training all about footwork from now on? Or is it more emphasis on serving and returning? Any thoughts? Especially better players here...what do you train now that you've got a massive FH, a stable BH and decent footwork? |
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training is to maintain their tip-top level of play
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Speeding everything up. Countering without backing off. Forcing the play. Concentrating on angles. Twiddling during a fast rally. Practice serves.
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in game strategies. Learn to make better adjustments.
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Right now, I'm working on the different angles. Bh down the line, and consistency with these. Consistency with all variations of bh and fh.
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What do you mean "once you've got everything together"? When can you say you've gotten everything together? Even Wang Liqin has a weak backhand, so he doesn't have everything together.
As for angles, the extremes are the last step, no? Newbies just try to get the ball back on the table, Amateurs aim for the corners, and Pros go for the short extremes (plus elbow of course) |
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By "once you've got everything together" I meant when you've figured out your style and game, you've chosen your shots against anything played against you. Yes, WLQ doesn't have the best BH, but he "has it together" by simply BH block or counter off the bounce, then step around...that's not a weakness, it's a style of play. Thanks guys, I think I'll step up the angle of my shots now. And probably increasing the pace and as someone else mentioned, trying more to counter over the table. |
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you should train on consistency,footwork and also serve and serve return.
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What do you mean by weak compared to you or who?
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"Even" meaning a top player has weak shots, not to mention anyone else |
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Wang Liqin rarely ever wins points on the backhand. The only time he really does (from my recollection) is when his opponent is mid-distance from the table on Wang's forehand side, and Wang blocks the ball to the open side. Wang Liqin generally only does small backhand loops to keep the ball back on the table, or blocks. He doesn't finish any points with his backhand. Kreanga, on the other hand, or Filimon now, have amazing backhands, and can win mid-distance looping battles with it. Boll's got a nice hook backhand loop as well, he wins a decent amount of points from his BH. Wang Liqin might as well be a traditional 1-sided penholder if he's not going to be aggressive with the BH. |
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Looks like you train way too much..... If you GOT EVERYTHING then play more games! Make sure you dont lose and dont drop sets. |
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different styles i reckon
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...like what the other guys here say. Work with what you got!
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when you have everything together you will see yourself no.1 in the world.
start working on footwork more and more. i dont know what to do because my backhand is the same if not better than my forehand. my forehand is more consistent but the speed and spin are about the same.
and i also use a faster rubber on my backhand
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At the table:
Keep praticing your serves. You can never pratices them to much. Same thing for returns. Increase the pace of all your exercices. Consistency at a fast pace. Footwork. Do harder drills, faster, longer and with a precision factor in it. Precision : You need to be able to put the ball anywhere on the table, from anywhere. Aim at dimes. Start praticing hard shots that you don't do really often. (Like make the ball roll on the table when you're in a position that you don't need to make it pass over the net) Be sure to be able to play against any player. Defender, Chopper, Attacker, Dany Seemiller... Out the table: Work more on your physical condition, increase the number of hours in the gym. Nutrition : Eat well Study videos of you, the players you play against and world class player. Visualisation Know your games schemes. You need to know what's gonna happen next, so you can anticipate better. Good luck in your try to go the next level. Hope you have the coach, the time, the will, the money, and the training partners to do it. |
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Film yourself during some matches - especially helpful will be the ones you have lost. Then watch the video and write down the comments on what went wrong during every point... smth like
0:1) bad loop
1:2) wrong swing
1:3) bad serve
2:4) too slow
2:5) wrong footwork.
2:6) ball hit finger ... etc
Then see which items caused you the most trouble - start working on them first.
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