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bull_harrier
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I use a ST handle and i must say it's a great blade. It's not very top heavy or handle heavy, very well balanced. I don't know the exact weight of mine but it's not overly heavy. There is minimal vibration, just enough to let you know what's going on. Overall I'm glad this damn forum got me thining enough to experiment with it
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peter79
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Yeah, I have big hands, Kits11326
I'm 185 cm tall. Maybe you have smaller hands.
The FL handle is too small at the middle of the handle. The ST handle is bigger although it's not big enough but it's fine.
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Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
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jossix
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Peter79, I use is omega 3 bios Asian version-I got it from iruiru.-will order more,-good partner for tenergy05 |
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cougar3219
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LOL, you wouldnt have those weight problems if ya bought a Joola Sting.................
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tommyzai
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I have another Violin at 79g on the way from Iruiru and when Borko recovers I'll have a second beauty from him. I'm all set.
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jkillashark
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Why would you say Chinese rubbers don't work well with the Violin? If anything, I would think Chinese rubbers would work better on the Violin because it's a tad bit slower. |
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tdragon
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So far I don't have any problem with any rubber on my Violin. But I could not figure out what rubber would work well with my Acoustic. I'm not quite in love with Acoustic yet.
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Mithrra
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tdradon,
What rubber you use on your violin? How does it compare to when you stick on the accoustic?
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tdragon
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I have tried many different rubbers as Yasaka Pryde, Yasaka Extend HS, BTY Bryce FX, Sriver G2 FX etc. But I don't have the nice feeling as with my Violin. With Acoustic, I could play a little far from table. Smashing and looping are ok, but I lost the soft touch/feel close to table. Blocking with Acoustic somehow is off table a little. The control is not as great as my violin. With the Violin, no matter what rubber I put on, it feels great.
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Skyline
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My experience with acoustic is the opposite of yours. Very good feel and touch close to the table. Great for blocking, smashing and looping.
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tdragon
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Skyline,
What rubbers are you using on Acoustic?
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Skyline
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rpbnakata
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I've just got an Acoustic FL (84g) last week and I'm loving it. I put a Bryce Speed in the forehand and Pryde in the backhand. It's amazing to block with this combo as well as mid-distance looping.
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petey
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How is Acoustic compared to Yasaka extra offensive and the TBS ?
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jkillashark
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My friend uses a TBS with Sriver and Sriver FX. After I got my new blade he swung around with a little bit and he liked it a lot saying it was very similar to his TBS but it felt better.
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tdragon
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You should ask your friend to use Bryce FX. Sriver is a little slow for TBS. I have Bryce FX both side for my TBS and played pretty much as good as my Violin
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biggestbox
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is the violin stiffer and slower that is why softer sponge works better?
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tdragon
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Since TBS is arylate carbon blade, therefore, it would work well with soft rubber. TBS feel a little stiffer than Violin. Any rubber would work well with Violin. So far I don't have any problem with any rubber for my Violin.
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sunilid
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I feel Acoustic has more power away from the table versus Violin.
Violin has better touch and control, and easier to maneuver the ball and direct it anywhere. |
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peter79
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Well, what I mention is Hard chinese rubbers like comercial H3 is not suitable, other softer or medium would be fine.
Provincial H3 is ok, because it's softer and lighter. The chinese rubber with the same characteristic as Provincial H3 is ok on Violin.
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Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
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peter79
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Softer sponge works better than Harder sponge on Violin, while Acoustic is not suitable for soft sponge like Mark V 30 or Solcion, too soft and mushy.
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Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
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holda
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Hey,Peter 79.
Well,I got a Violin ,too.I think i have the same taste as you and TommyZai.
I want to say that I agree with everything that you have said about Acoustic/Violin blade. Violin is just the same thing as Legato I have told you about.Beautiful bounce on both sides with Srivers.More feel (I would not call it vibration) and as acoustic sound when playing as with Acoustic.
Weight distribution is better on my Violin,even with heavy Srivers.
Thank you,guys-all who compared Acosutic and Violin.
If you are doubtful about my comparing Violin and Legato by Darker,give the latter a shot.
I also want to say special thanks to Chronos,who sold me the Legato.I am ordering one from Iruiru.No more Ej-ing-there is nothing left. And if there is something else out there -I don't care
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Halibass
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I'm confused. Do you like the Violin more than the Acoustic and why are you ordering another Legato? Which one is THE ONE? :) |
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Flicker
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Wow Holda - You like the Legato that much? Make me want to order one just to confirm for myself. :) Cheers!
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holda
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legato is just unknown!violin is a nice blade,realy nice and very similar in feel to legato.i feel great with either one,acostic,like peter 79 says is more suitable for a looping stly,violin has better feedback and not so picky as far as matching rubbers. legato and violin are pretty bouncy blades,so is acoustic,but the first two may have more solif feel,they are nearly stiff,acosutic is a bit flexible. legato and violin are not head heavy with my rubbers attached,acoustic and srivers just make the blade feel "top heavy". violin ,which i got weights only 8o.8 gr...very light,but still powerful.i don't know the weight of either my legato or acoustic,but my guess is 82-87 gr... |
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peter79
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So Violin is more suitable for you holda? which is your primary blade right now?
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Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
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holda
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i am buying another legato,because mine just cracked somehow.
i did not do anything to it,just found a deep crack at the blade's neck,so i am pretty sure if i continue using it,the head portion will separate and hit somebody.i have not seen any one with such a blade failure..weird
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peter79
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Which handle did you buy, Holda? if it's ST handle it's soo light. In comparison my ST handle weight 92 gr.
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Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
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holda
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to be honest -violin is....violin is stiffer.
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tdragon
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I have two Violins ST weight 80grs and 82 grs. I know Tommy had couple Violins ST weight less than 80grs. It seems to me that 80 something is normal for Violin. 92 gr is too heavy.
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