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    Posted: 01/18/2023 at 5:10am
Viscaria FL - 91g
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
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Cao Wei of China, who won the Feeder tournament just 2 days ago loses in the 1st round of qualifying to Manav Thakkar of India.
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Amelie Solja just weirded out Fan Shuhan of China 3-1.
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Cao Wei of China, who won the Feeder tournament just 2 days ago loses in the 1st round of qualifying to Manav Thakkar of India.

It is typical of these young CNT player now, winning one tournament and then losing in the first round in the next one.
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Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Cao Wei of China, who won the Feeder tournament just 2 days ago loses in the 1st round of qualifying to Manav Thakkar of India.

It is typical of these young CNT player now, winning one tournament and then losing in the first round in the next one.
In addition to Cao Wei, Chen Yuanyu lost to Sanil Shetty. Liu Yebo lost to Lam Siu Hang. Zeng Beixun lost to Manush Shah.

On the women's side, in addition to previously mentioned Fan Shuhan, Zhang Xiangyu lost to Helga Dari.

China brought a lot of players, but it hasn't been easy even in the qualifying stage.
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Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Cao Wei of China, who won the Feeder tournament just 2 days ago loses in the 1st round of qualifying to Manav Thakkar of India.

It is typical of these young CNT player now, winning one tournament and then losing in the first round in the next one.

Its  a shady move. They are being asked not to play 100% to confuse opponents I heard this from   Chinese B team coach. This tournaments are for evaluate progress of these players  not the target.
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Aside from Xiang Peng and Lin Shidong, imo all the other juniors need a lot of work....
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Both Xiang Peng and Lin Shidong, especially the latter, are just as bad.

Their win rate make Harimoto look so much stronger.
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Both Xiang Peng and Lin Shidong, especially the latter, are just as bad.

Their win rate make Harimoto look so much stronger.

I think they are at least stronger than the other juniors, not that they have good winrates lol... Among the new gen of course Harimoto, Lin Yun Ju and Wang Chuqin are the strongest for sure.
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Ryoichi Yoshiyama of Japan beat Wang Tingyu of China in the 2nd round of qualifying.  He faces Kao Cheng-jui in the final qualifying round tomorrow.
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KAO Cheng-Jui 3-2 Ryoichi YOSHIYAMA
1210, 911, 911, 1210, 113

Keep his name in mind. 高承睿/Kao Cheng-Jui will play at WTTC 2023.

https://tsna.com/article/67352
https://oursport.tv/news/d808a2
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CIC 3-0 KM
G3 57, 117. Yes, 6 in a row. Played like shit.

https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91071&PID=1121535&title=2021-world-youth-championships#1121535
Quote Kuai Man is another Ding Ning type of player. Not a good trend for the CNT down the road. That's going against the flow.
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https://en.stoiximan.gr/match-odds/i-ching-cheng-man-kuai/32026795/
I Ching Cheng 2.95. Man Kuai 1.37

https://br.betano.com/odds/i-ching-cheng-man-kuai/32026795/
I Ching Cheng 3.40. Man Kuai 1.27

https://www.marathonbet.es/en/popular/Table+Tennis+-+382549
Cheng, I-Ching. 08:45. 2. Kuai, Man. 3.40, 1.27

https://www.betano.bg/en/sport/table-tennis/international/wtt-contender-amman-w/200545/
Man Kuai. Match Head to Head. 1. I Ching Cheng 2.87. Man Kuai 1.36. 09/02 04:45

https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/tabletennis/wtt-contender-amman-women
I-Ching Cheng vs Man KuaiTomorrow 12:15AM. Moneyline. I-Ching Cheng. +310. Man Kuai. −400.
$400 to win $100!
Viscaria FL - 91g
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I haven't watched the match yet, but like I've been telling you, CIC has been playing very well.  You have to give her credit for taking down China's top junior 3-0.  CIC is a former top 10 player who has dropped down significantly, but she's fighting to get back up there.  You have to admire that.
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Duda 3-1 over Uda.
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Didn't watch it, but Polcanova wins 15-13 in the 5th vs. Mo Zhang of Canada.  That would have been a huge upset if Mo won.
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The Uda I know is back.
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Grandma Ni still causing damage.
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Originally posted by jfolsen jfolsen wrote:

Grandma Ni still causing damage.

Did she beat CIC? Please link the video 
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Originally posted by KiwiPong KiwiPong wrote:

Originally posted by jfolsen jfolsen wrote:

Grandma Ni still causing damage.

Did she beat CIC? Please link the video 


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Thanks. Ah it’s the other Taiwanese player lol

Originally posted by jfolsen jfolsen wrote:

Originally posted by KiwiPong KiwiPong wrote:

Originally posted by jfolsen jfolsen wrote:

Grandma Ni still causing damage.

Did she beat CIC? Please link the video 


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Ito vs CIC
115
40, TO for CIC, 118
45, 59, 811
17, 87, 811
03, TO for Ito, 53, 54, 64, 66, 86, 88, 98, 99, 119

As in the match with Kuai Man, it depended on Ito rather than CIC. The scoreline reflects that.
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
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I'm of course happy for Mima, but kudos to CIC for playing so well.  That's a match worthy of a final.  I think CIC's chances against anyone else in the draw are really good so it was a bit unfortunate that she met Mima in R16.  Nonetheless, looks like her career is back on track so I'm happy for her.
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As with Ito, it depended on Togami rather than Karlsson. G3 says it all. Reigning All-Japan Champion...
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Maybe Togami could have pulled off the upset if he had converted one of his game points in G3, especially at 10:7 when he missed an easy BH. Still lacking some mental toughness.

So far, he hasn't been able to disprove Zeio's claim that Togami = Zhou Qihao.


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Togami has a mental hurdle he has to jump over.  He definitely should have won game 3 with 4 game points.  You cannot give a player like Karlsson any breathing room.  He is ranked #21 for a reason.  A powerful player who is not super consistent yet, but he has beaten the likes of Wang Chuqin and Hugo Calderano.
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Xu Haidong 3-2 over Jorgic
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Rage comments pouring in over at 5ch.

https://mao.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/pingpong/1675582806/271-
271名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:31:26.41ID:TlT99OYH
うわーマジか
このゲーム落とすのはキツイ...

272名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:31:26.87ID:S4FJMQQi
あーまた例の人が来そうな展開や

273名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:32:10.11ID:TlT99OYH
がんばれ戸上

274名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:33:36.34ID:Fwt49EMw
なんでいつもこうなるんだ
Why always like this

275名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:33:42.82ID:G/JGJJLU
戸上死ね!戸上死ね!戸上死ね!!!!!!!
Die, Togami! Die, Togami! Die, Togami!!!!!!!

276名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:33:49.39ID:POZFRtrK
死ね�£呼厨嫌な人はNG登録推奨

277名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:34:16.29ID:HYYQsB+P
内弁慶であることを自ら証明しなくていいから
戸上は負け方が毎回酷いんだよな
全部大量リード捲られてから意気消沈して終了だし
Uchibenkei is self-proving
Togami loses in an amazing way every time
All of them ended up being depressed after blowing a big lead

278名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:34:42.05ID:BsLJv6+g
戸上にはが�£かりだわ…
篠塚、張本に勝�£といてさすがにあそこから一方的に逆転は無いぜ…
So disappointed in Togami...
Shinozuka or Harimoto won't lose like that even after winning

279名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:36:12.60ID:HYYQsB+P>>293
篠塚に0-2から捲�£た時とは大違いだな

280名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:36:43.49ID:BsLJv6+g
もう試合投げてるね
酷い負け方するなぁ…

281名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:36:55.06ID:SUvtBEjg
仮にも日本一なのにここまでボコられるかね?

282名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:37:09.91ID:HJD1Llar
や�£ぱ戸上には宇田がお似合いだよ
ず�£と仲良く二人で同じ道進んで往生しろ
Togami and Uda are such great matches
Both of you stay on good terms forever and walk the same road to the next life

284名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:39:09.97ID:HYYQsB+P
まさか日本の2トップがまだ20歳にすらな�£てない2人になるとはな
良いのか悪いのかわからん

285名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:40:57.13ID:809s64id
戸上オワタ
Togami over

286名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:41:12.33ID:DfQDgQ5s
戸上おつかれ
Good work, Togami

287名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:41:19.74ID:HYYQsB+P
今のままだと戸上がオリンピック出ることになりそうだけど
こんな負け方頻繁にする選手にオリンピック出てほしくないわ
だけど戸上の�£わりになる奴がいるかと言われたら国際大会出る気ない真晴しかいないしなんともいえん
If things continue as they are now, it looks like Togami will be in the Olympics
I don't want a player who frequently loses like that to go to the Olympics
But when asked if there's someone who can replace Togami, it's Maharu who doesn't want to participate in international competitions

288名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:42:14.68ID:BsLJv6+g
真晴は国内で買�£て五輪でメデ�£アに返り咲くことしか考えてない�£て

289名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:42:42.67ID:809s64id
打点追求し過ぎて日本は欧州勢とめ�£きり相性が悪くな�£てしま�£たな
ピッチだけでは勝てないな
Japan's compatibility with European teams has become noticeably worse due to the excessive pursuit of impact point
You can't win with pace alone

290名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:44:17.24ID:POZFRtrK
負け方に面白ポイントあるのが天然たるゆえ

291名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:44:32.16ID:SUvtBEjg
張本篠塚吉村が現時点のベストメンバーかね
Harimoto, Shinozuka, Yoshimura are the best members at this point

292名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:44:53.98ID:TlT99OYH
外国勢相手だと張本篠塚はずば抜けてるなぁや�£ぱり
もちろん張本と篠塚でも差はあるけど、この2人はやはり別格
Harimoto and Shinozuka are outstanding when it comes to foreign opponents
Of course there are differences between Harimoto and Shinozuka, but these two are still exceptional

293名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:45:23.33ID:yjRYyrwJ
>>279
篠塚自身も左を苦にしない右に対しての決定力がないからな、、、
健太にも3�£敗だしハオシュアイのオマケ中国人にも0-3負け、及川にも内容的には2試合とも負け試合だ�£たし
それでも対外は戸上より上だし、相手が左を苦にしない右でも10-5をひ�£くり返されたりしないけどな

294名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:46:16.44ID:HYYQsB+P
19の2人に責任丸投げの日本男子情けねー

295名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:47:34.82ID:BsLJv6+g
なんなら金メダリストが外野から文句ば�£か言�£てるしなw

296名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:48:50.80ID:qXMspECl
戸上のパターン上、あの大量リードした3ゲーム目を逃げ切れたとしても結局は2-3負けしていたとは思うけど、あれを大逆転負けするのはな

297名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:48:54.24ID:HYYQsB+P
次の選考会で戸上と篠塚が準々決勝で当たるけど戸上に勝�£てほしくないなあ
今の戸上にシングル出られるのは迷惑だわ
Togami and Shinozuka will meet in QF at the next Road to Paris trial, but I don't want Togami to win
It's annoying to have Togami for singles now

298名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:51:00.11ID:TQFRo7D8
世界卓球童貞のしのぴには背負わせないでくれ!
伸び伸びさせたい!
Don't let WTTC virgin Shinopi carry it! I want him to be at ease

299名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:51:19.25ID:U29ixC5P
水谷復帰してくれー!
Please come back, Mizutani!

300名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:51:40.74ID:19xi2A61
戸上死ね!
テメーみてーに毎度毎度大量リードを大逆転負けしてファンを悲しませる奴は死んだ方がいいんだよ!
大逆転負け戸上死ね!テメーは2度と日本に帰�£てくるな!テメーは鮫に�£�われて死んじまえ!
戸上死ね!
Die Togami!
The guy who saddens the fans by blowing a big lead every time should be dead!
Die, Togami, who gets big reversal defeat! Never come back to Japan again! You should be eaten by a shark and die!
Die, Togami!

301名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:53:22.79ID:HYYQsB+P
なんか戸上と宇田のせいで選考がややこしくな�£てるなあ
宇田は最早国際大会も論外だからあれだが、戸上が国内だと強すぎて無双する割に国際大会しょぼいからランクが上がらなくて中国の山引き当てそうだし
戸上が国際大会で勝てるようにな�£て世界ランク20位くらいになれば全て�£決するんだけど
For some reason I feel Togami and Uda have made the selection process more complicated
Uda is already out of the question for international competitions, but Togami is too strong in Japan, and although he's not matched by anyone else, he can't rank up in international competitions, so he will likely be drawn to the Chinese quarter
If Togami can win international competitions and reach around 20th in the world ranking, everything will be resolved

302名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:54:35.12ID:/MTK9hws
2人揃�£て篠塚の相対評価を上げにい�£ただけだ�£たか...
These 2 went there together only to raise Shinozuka's relative evaluation...

303名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:55:18.81ID:BsLJv6+g
世界ランク10位台前半くらいの実力はあるはずなんだが、あんまり頭使�£て卓球してないのか、今日みたいな負け方が多いのは残念だな
それでも日本の中では二番手候�£�なのは間違いないが
Despite having the level of world top 10, he doesn't use his brain much when playing, it's a pity that he has lost a lot like today
Still, there is no doubt that he is the second candidate in Japan

304名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:55:50.21ID:04CRlEhP
国内で勝てれば世界でも勝てる選手になるという完璧な理論だ�£たはずなのにおかしいなあ(�£�)

305名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:56:18.93ID:POZFRtrK
や�£ぱりベンチコーチはいた方がいいだろ
舐めすぎなんよ
吉山くんも負担だし

306名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:56:48.57ID:q96GMYcK
このままだ�£たら戸上シングル選ばれそうでやだなあ

307名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2023/02/10(金) 21:57:15.48ID:BsLJv6+g
国内で勝ててない選手はも�£と勝�£てないんだからしゃーない
張本と篠塚は勝�£てるし

Edited by zeio - 02/10/2023 at 10:01am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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Man, what is the point to show all these comments, to prove Togami is no good? 
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