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kaitenNashi ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 07/18/2022 Location: Singapore Status: Offline Points: 83 |
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Will Nina finally make herself useful this match?
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change is not the only constant
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kaitenNashi ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 07/18/2022 Location: Singapore Status: Offline Points: 83 |
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The weaker team won, I blame Lee Ho Ching
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10396 |
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Congrats to
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10396 |
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The luckier team won. Thank you, ABC toss and net. |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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jackwong23 ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: 08/14/2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1912 |
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God : European women's players don't deserve standing ovations because they are old and rubbish.
Oh wait, Germany women's team just beat hkg and reach the wttc semi final.
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kaitenNashi ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 07/18/2022 Location: Singapore Status: Offline Points: 83 |
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ABC toss only affects the first two matches which Hong Kong won so
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change is not the only constant
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jackwong23 ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: 08/14/2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1912 |
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Some idiots ridiculed the standard of European women's tennis not long ago. Sure they are not as good as china, but they are still good enough to beat a team like Hkg.
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jackwong23 ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: 08/14/2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1912 |
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Don't agree with you. A team which have Shan xiona and Han Ying can beat any team on it's day, except China and Japan.
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10396 |
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The ABC team always has an inherent advantage as the 1st singles playing in match 1 and match 4 gives them more flexibility in switching the 2nd and 3rd singles. They could avoid SWY from taking 2 points from HY and SXN, or ZCZ from taking 2 points from Mittelham and SXN. |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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kaitenNashi ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 07/18/2022 Location: Singapore Status: Offline Points: 83 |
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That's all for women's WTTC 2022. The remaining 5 matches have already been decided
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10396 |
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鮑羅斯收起單曉娜打三單就已經係輸唔起啦!夠唔夠薑唔上韓瑩呀?杜凱琹缺�£都重要3-2先贏,屎到,重咁撚大�£�£ |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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ZApenholder ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/04/2012 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 4738 |
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At the toss (1h45m prior), you either get ABC or XYZ and the players names for ABC or XYZ are provided already. There is no flexibility after match 1, you can't change the players lists |
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jackwong23 ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: 08/14/2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1912 |
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Romania was only 2 points away from eliminating hkg as well .
Yeah, European women's teams are crap.
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ZApenholder ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/04/2012 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 4738 |
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That can apply to any team with 2 strong players in the top 10 or 2~3 in the top 20. "on its day" Japan can beat China, Singapore can beat China (we seen it). Not having DHK there did hurt 1 to 2 points for HK, injuries and reserves are all part off the teams challenges. Fact is, 2022, Chinese imports are still owning most of Asian/European (womens) table tennis. Local grown/developed talents are still a little below par in terms of levels with the top level imports. Out of the top teams, HK top players did terrible in this world champs (all credits to Zhu for her wins), they all still pretty young, accept for Lee Ho Ching. I wonder if it is lack of match practice leading up to the world champs - they haven't taken part in WTT in a while or are they all carrying injuries Edited by ZApenholder - 10/06/2022 at 5:02am |
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ZApenholder ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/04/2012 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 4738 |
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A friend got tested positive on Monday 7 negative daily tests prior, then POSITIVE on Monday, isolated in room, and 2 tests daily, all NEGATIVE (5 of them so far) but the friend still need to finish the 7 day post POS test isolation..... While the room mate got NEG test, is free to walk around. Sounds like a false positive... CT40 is way too high of a benchmark to use... Edited by ZApenholder - 10/06/2022 at 5:20am |
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10396 |
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Have they changed it? http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2014-06-24/10017225403.shtml
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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Bran ![]() Super Member ![]() Joined: 06/18/2013 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 365 |
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DHK injured, SWY with her focal dystonia still managed to beat HY, ZCZ did well and you mentioned LHC isn't young anymore and she did OK overall. So they didn't actually do badly, if you look closely. It may take another 5 years before we get a better picture of women's TT landscape in Europe, though the size of local, homegrown talent pools may means the China-trained players could still be around then. This said, even though Germany has heavily relied on SXN and HY lately, with Mittelhalm and Solja or Winter they've managed to train up a few decent players. Edited by Bran - 10/06/2022 at 5:35am |
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ZApenholder ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/04/2012 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 4738 |
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yeah, your news is 2014. what hasn't been changed lol
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ZApenholder ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/04/2012 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 4738 |
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3 x 3-2 so far (2 wins, 1 lost) Germany, France, Romania. Lee Ho Ching loosing during all 3. Maybe not fair to say HK team did terrible. It is Lee doing terrible. At 3, and her high world ranking level and experience, should of have some more wins. But her wins including 12-10 over very weak Italian/South African players... something isn't right there, she isn't normal I do hope more home grown Euro players coming out the ranks. In some countries, Chinese presence have up lifted the local level. But to take over, and end up being aunties and grannies playing, is sad in a way. It is great to see all those 40s, 50s, 60s year old still playing well, but it does take away the passion from local grown youth, who will just give up as all you need is another import and then you are on the side line. |
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10396 |
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HKTTA confirms DHK is injured, and SWY was fielded with her medical condition.
https://hktta.org.hk/cgi-bin/display/news.cgi?news=3249
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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Bran ![]() Super Member ![]() Joined: 06/18/2013 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 365 |
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True, LHC didn't perform well. So it's really on her, the others did as well as they could or better. I thought SWY had retired to focus on her studies, so I was positively surprised by her wins. I just hope she's not worsening her condition by playing.
As for Chinese imported players, it can be a delicate balance between emulation and discouraging locals, but I suspect it's also sometimes that there simply enough TT interest in some countries for them to have much impact in either direction, and they end up staying on until they decide to retire. |
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ZApenholder ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/04/2012 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 4738 |
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end of the day, if you get free airfare/accommodation to tournaments and any tournaments wins is for your own pockets, there isn't any reason to retire, unless the body can't take it any more.
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10396 |
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So you mean the news agency is out of the loop? https://www.yangtse.com/content/1536172.html
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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ZApenholder ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/04/2012 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 4738 |
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You need to go ask the news agency that. I can't answer for them Maybe easier for you to ask ITTF competition manager, getting facts from the horses mouth is always better than just googling edit: I just read your news article - what is it that you want me to read there?
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jackwong23 ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: 08/14/2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1912 |
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Yeah, blame the ABC toss, injuries, luck. Never give any credit to the opponent. Typical sour loser
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ZApenholder ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/04/2012 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 4738 |
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have you ever played in any teams competition? toss is so important, in 5 match, 3 win system, wining the 1st and 3rd is so important. You want to have a 1-0 lead for pressure building, and the win at 3rd is a must. It is not uncommon to put a stronger player at 3, to guarantee the win, than to risk that stronger player loosing the 2 matches. Rather sacrifice the weaker player and hope yoru best player wins the other 2, to get the 3 If you take part in years of teams event, this should be a no brainier to you, unless you are team China and no matter what kind of roster, you will still win Injuries and how hard you play - this is normal too. If it is worth going for it, despite injured, the player will go for it, its been around for decades, not new. Luck - that's part of the game. The above is all logic / common sense But I guess you only here for arguments
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pongfugrasshopper ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03/22/2015 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 3469 |
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Looks like someone's been doing her homework. Mima just constantly drove Ema off the table.
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kakapo ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 02/24/2013 Location: Mordor Status: Online Points: 3372 |
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36 pts for Portugal in 9 games......We must count the points....
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Def play grey grip 94gr, Venus 2 blue 2,2, Neubauer KO extreme 1,3mm
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10396 |
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Would be nice if you can help me comprehend 3.7.7.3 from ITTF Handbook 2022.
https://documents.ittf.sport/sites/default/files/public/2022-02/ITTF_HB_2022_tc_v1_0.pdf
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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jackwong23 ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: 08/14/2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1912 |
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That is right, the toss, luck and injury are all parts of the game and should not be used as excuses for losing. |
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