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 Topic: Xiom Aria, Fuga, Jazz ReviewPosted: 06/12/2008 at 11:01pm |
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I've received Xiom Aria, Fuga and Jazz from Rokphish.
The first thing do to is to weight it first.
Xiom Aria ST weight 90,4 Gr
Xiom Fuga FL Weight 84 Gr
Xiom Jazz ST Weight 81 Gr
The first blade that I want to review is Aria.
Aria is made supposed to be a Nittaku Acoustic Killer.
Well I think it's exaggerated. Holding both blades without rubber on it. I feel the balanced of Aria is not as good as acoustic. Aria's ST handle is abit squared and big, makes the weight distribution heavier on the handle.
The head size of Aria is supprisingly big. The head size near the handle is bigger than H-king's.
I use H3 Pro 39deg and Solcion on aria, weight about 178 gr.
I use H3 Pro 40 deg and Sriver EL on Acoustic, weight about 178 gr.
I use B. Speed and B speed FX on Violin, weight about 178 gr.
All my setup has similar weight, but Aria feels more heavy, especially on the handle. Both Violin and Acoustic are comfortable to hold, fells very balanced in weight. Aria seems lack on this point.
Playing with Aria, it can produce high top spin, but can't perform well in low gears. slow loop isn't good using aria. There's a vibration but it's not as good compared to violin/Acoustic. Aria is faster than Acoustic it has not much dwell time compared to acoustic.
Acoustic also has bigger sweet spot than Aria.
After using H3 Pro 39 for a while, yesterday I changed my violin set up to bryce speed n speed FX. I have no difficulty adjusting to it. I can perform much faster topspin than using H3 pro. Violin is suitable for B.Speed n Speed FX, it becomes off blade if using this rubber.
I'll try fuga next time, sorry for my poor review, I just can't find anywords to describe the blades capabilities.
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Posted: 06/13/2008 at 12:55am |
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Peter, great review. Nice and concise which goes hand in hand with rok's review. I am no shakehander so the blade does not interest me as such. However, I am intrigued to learn that you somehow managed to put on rubbers to those blades and come up with nearly the same weight. Can you therefore also give us the weight of the violin and acoustics?
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Good review. When you said vibration, is it on the face or the handle?
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Posted: 06/13/2008 at 1:39am |
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Fattchoi, it is availabe also in C-pen either Aria, Fuga or Jazz.
The weight of my Violin is 92 gr, Acoustic is 90 Gr, Aria 90,4 gr.
weight of the rubber:
H3 Pro 40 deg 46 gr
H3 Por 39 deg 45 gr
Sriver EL 42 Gr
Solcion 42 gr (actually 40 gr, 2 gr is the glue :) )
B. Speed 46 gr
B. Speed Fx 41 gr.
Now I prefer Violin than Acoustic :)
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Posted: 06/13/2008 at 1:43am |
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Both face and the handle. when we block someone's loop, the ball contact the face of the blade, the vibration then move from the face to the handle. |
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Peter, thanks for the info. I only play Jpen rpb. I have a Cpen DHS Hurricane Hao which I only played once sitting there, always staring at me, whenever I went to choose a blade to play with
I have a Violin PH Reverse which has really good feel and control. I like it.
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Peter, have you tried countering the top spin and see wether you have that vibration issue? Do you have little more soft sponge rubber and try with the blade.
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Yeah I really like the feeling of Violin, if you want to play all around just put sriver EL or FX on it. If you want to play offensive just put B.Speed on it.
I don't glue, I've found B.speed is fast enough. Putting B.speed on Violin I found very easy to control.
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I will try it with different rubber tomorrow. Maybe Cermet n Sriver FX on Aria. Yesterday I tried Solcion on BH. Feel mushy.
I don't it long because the first impression doesn't impress me.
I'll try it again, along with Fuga with both Cermet n Sriver FX.
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I have Tenergy on both sides and I can take balls from very low near the floor effortlessly. Good control and power. But due to the weight of the Tenergy, I do find it a bit heavy so may have to change the BH rubber to maybe a lighter Yasaka Pryde or Solcion or even B.SpeedFX.
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I also would like to try Tenergy on FH. BH I think Speed FX is fast enough n gives moderate control. Fattchoi, Please let me know if you try Speed Fx, I just want to know the different weight between Tenergy n B.Speed FX. The difference between B. Speed n B.Speed Fx is about 5 gr, the same size rubber. B.speed is heavier. |
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I recently cut a piece of Tenergy 2.1mm on the Darker Shake Speed 90. The cut weight of the rubber comes to 50g. Uncut weight is about 70g. That is why I was asking for your blade weight earlier on to get an idea of how much the rubber weigh. Of course, efficient as you are, you gave me the weight of the cut rubbers as well which is a great help Cheers.
p.s. by all reckoning, I believe Tenergy is much spinnier than Bryce which is an added bonus for my Jpen service trickeries.
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Hmmm, interesting, I'll choose the lightest Tenergy then, thanks for your info Fattchoi |
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Peter, I almost forgot. I actually cut a piece of 1.9mm as well for the BH and shockingly, it comes out same weight as the 2.1mm FH. Just thought you might like to know. On another thread, metalone told me that the 1.7mm is 64g uncut. So I guess you should try that one.
Cheers.
p.s. as it turns out, I have another piece of 1.9mm. Just weighed it and comes out at 69g, so not much difference from the 2.1mm.
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Fattchoi, then I better buy 2,1 mm since there's almost no difference in weight compared to 1,9mm. In Indonesia there's no 1.9 mm version of Tenergy, the 1.7 mm is even impossible to find. I only found sriver series with 1.9 mm thickness. Other rubber like Cermet, Bryce series all only available in 2.1 mm. |
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Did you like it? Putting aside your love for Acoustic & Violin for a minute... hehehe...
I might have mislead you with the comment about Acoustic killer. I think the impression and info I got for the Aria is that it's more directly positioned as "upgraded" version of Korbel type blades. Also upgraded version of Xiom's own Maximus blade. And Aria is in the same price brackets as Korbel and Maximus. And also with the price of about a third or half of Acoustic/Violin does it have that value in comparison in light of the difference in price. If you want, I could send you my Korbel along with Ignito & Amadeus in a few days for comparison. I know you played with Korbel before, but perhaps you want to give it another try for fresh comparison. When I first interested in XIOM's blades I was after something similar as Korbel (my primary blade at the time) and was comparing the Maximus and Control 3 which has good reviews on the forums (although not all wood blade). I went to the Korean review site and read about the Amadeus. I then asked about the Maximus, Amadeus, and Control and I was recommended the Aria as the upgraded version of Korbel. Recently I also heard that in Korea, the sales for Aria and Fuga are pretty good, gaining popularity in lieu of Acoustic/Violin and Hurricane King. Thus the terms Acoustic/Violin & Hurricane Killer. Not in the meaning that it compares directly to Acoustic/Violin and HK and beat them in playability, but in market sales. Which could be due to various factors. Just as Toyota Camry or Honda Civic has more market share than say Volvos or BMWs. I'm not trying to defend the Aria as I haven't played with it yet. I'm just trying to give more background about the "Acoustic Killer" statement earlier. Besides, between my review and Peter's, I'd go with his because he's more experienced than I am. Looking forward to read the reviews on the other blades as well.... Cheers! p.s. have you read the post about acoustic/violin is dicontinued in u.k. (euro)? Some problems with the euro distributor. Hopefully this is limited to euro only and not a global discontinuement of the acoustic and violin. I sent nittaku jp an email but haven't heard back from them. I think that the problem lies on the euro distributor only. |
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Well, I now know why Peter said what he said earlier.
I played with the Aria yesterday and for the first few minutes it felt awkmard. Certainly gave me bad feeling compared to the Amadeus (and Ignito) I tried earlier. But after playing with it longer, the bad feeling went away. Instead it just gave me a regular feeling. That is, similar to Korbel, no noticeable dinstinct feeling but it performs good nevertheless. It performs well in all aspect without highpoints in any particular. Seemed more powerful than Korbel with less vibration. Though it weighed about the same as Amadeus and HK, in play it felt heavier than Amadeus and similar (slightly less heavy) than HK. This is my impression after playing with it 2.5 hours straight. I'll play with it more extensively for a week or so then I'll post the review like I did with Ignito & Amadeus. Cheers! |
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I want to know about the fuga anyone try it yet
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Peter said he was going to try it last saturday. He'll probably post later today or tomorrow. I'll be trying it next week or so.
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Yesterday I tried Fuga and Jazz for several minutes only.
Fuga with Sriver FX 2,1 mm on both sides.
Jazz with Mark V ad 2,2 mm on both sides.
Fuga's head size is the same as Aria which is big. While Jazz headsize is a lot smaller.
My Mark V ad is cut smaller headsize (for Donic Crisan Titanium) so it's more suitable for Jazz headsize.
While my Sriver FX rubber is cut from my joola MC-1 Head size. The Joola MC-1 headsize is almost the same as Fuga's Headsize.
When I hold them both, I prefer Jazz, because it's lighter.
When I play with them both, I also prefer Jazz.
Fuga's handle is too smooth, I afraid it may slip if I'm not carefull to hold it.
Both blades has vibration, but not as much as korbel.
Fuga's feel is similar to H-king, but H-king vibrates more.
Since both Fuga and H-king use Koto as the outer ply, it has similar sound but not much.
H-king has more crips sound, Fuga has milder sound.
Jazz has crispier sound than Fuga, it has the best feeling among Aria and Fuga. it is quite fast too. Among 3 blades, I like jazz more.
But I can't perform consistency using these 3 xiom blades compared to my Violin or Acoustic.
Yes there're faster but they don't give you the sign of each shot you make. If I use Violin, when I perform a perfect/nice loop I can feel it. When I perform a incorrect stroke I also can know. But using Aria, Fuga, Jazz I can't.
It's recommended as an optional choice who want a blade besides Korbel.
My wife who usually use Donic Opticon RS with Sriver G2 and Tibhar Makss still prefer her Blades. I asked her to try both fuga and Jazz, she still prefer her Opticon RS
 I'll try jazz today for longer time, I'll post it later.
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Your wife plays TT?!! How lucky can one get. You really have a partner for life.
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Hahahaha, Well actually She doesn't like table tennis very much as I do
 . We play TT once a week. But she has a talent, she learn playing table tennis by just watching me playing with my friend. She has a powerfull smash, so sometimes I can learn how to defend also
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That's what I've been telling him... Hehehe... |
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At least you would know what is coming and know how to block if you make her angry
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Wow, Peter you are lucky. I miss my ex-girlfriend (long time ago) who plays good TT. She used to play with her father (good TT player) for years before I met her and to be honest, she is much better than my friends and I have to pull lots of trick from my Doraemon's belly to beat her. I lost often too but the overall score is I'm ahead but not too far. Isn't it nice if your partner share the same interest? To think about it, now I really miss her.  |
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I can't agree more than that. Not only would you have a partner for life, you also don't need to explain yourself a lot of time
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doraeman,
I agree with you!!!! Look for new gf with good TT skills?? Of course must be hot and sexy too in fashion dinner dress
 That makes her an all rounder!!! |
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I for one wouldn't want her to be hot and sexy, especially with the ridiculously small percentage of female players in the club.... It's like taking a lamb into the wolves den... Hahahahha....
If anyone has info about how/where to acquire one, let me know as I'm in the market also for finding a good one.... Cheers!!! |
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Look is not important. Look comes and goes. BUT TT skill only come and never goes, until you hurt yourself of course...
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Hahahaha, well I seldom play games with my wife, just stoking, without counting. She hasn't has experience playing a table tennis match. I'm already satisfied that she can stroke with me like warming up. Sometimes the bad thing about TT, is that if I can't find anyone playing with. My wife is the only person can accompany me if there nobody availabe
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