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Originally posted by APW APW wrote:


Any of you guys ever notice that when you play a player who is well above you in standard, they don't ever go ballistic, drilling balls past you, but play quite conservatively, just allowing you to miss? any alarm bells ringing here?


Post wins thread. When a recent British top 50 player came to Maine, one of our US1700-1800 players remarked that he just returned every ball, never seemed to be out of position and didn't use any tricky serves.

Originally posted by kentyu kentyu wrote:

and lastly, im not trying to argue with apw again, but i really do have better footwork than him.


Umm.

If you mean "more athletic", perhaps... As in, "you can move faster in a lateral direction'...  But "better footwork" actually means that you can read the point and be in position to return each ball. Players with "better footwork" rarely appear rushed, because they not only understand how to hit the ball, but actually understand the "shape of the rally" and position themselves accordingly.

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You can break US1600 with only decent footwork, a push, and a light topspin counter. No looping. No smashing. No deceptive service.

No nothing. Just return the ball one more time than your opponent:

Here's two players that have done just that (both of them have given 1800+ players a hard time, simply by returning the ball and watching the higher ranked player miss during a "HOLLYWOOD shot")

http://www.usatt.org/history/rating/history/Phistory.asp?Pid=41037
http://www.usatt.org/history/rating/history/Tresult.asp?Tid=3055&Pid=56235&Blow=1



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Hi icontek, thanks for explaining what "better footwork" actually means.
I am going to just remove what I said as he is just better than me. You did well by spending your time explaining everything on your post. kudos to you.
 
I think this particular thread got a lot of attention so I'm gonna use this time to see if any members on this forum lives in the bay area?
pm me if you ever want to meet up to play some tt or let me know which club do you usually go?
I live in san mateo and I play at the local foster city club. feel free to stop by and play. it's only $3 for drop in.
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Wow did I miss some sort or racist debate?
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Hey what happened? I posted a reply - did some one delete it?  Hope you don't refer to me as the racist one - coz thats way off mark. 
then again maybe I didnt press send and just fell asleep on the couch...
 
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you stay away boz
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what happened?
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and of course i ignored the race thing. i suggest you do too. for now.
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Originally posted by bozbrisvegas bozbrisvegas wrote:

what happened?


just gremmilins trying to tickle you.
play your game and ignore them!
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definitely no racist debate on my part. I'm done and I'm gonna stay away now.
It's amazing this thread attracted 4000+ views
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ok I dont care for race talk - what I am upset about now is that someone has gone and deleted what I said - Im not mistaken because jfk commented on the smoke coming out my head which is the post that he must have deleted on me.
 
The word dumi - I was guessing was smoke come out of my head - but that is not the meaning - according to our Bulgarian friend here
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Im going to drink some beer and go play my mate
Tim - should be an epic -
 
 
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Originally posted by Imago Imago wrote:

Originally posted by APW46 APW46 wrote:

I thought racist comments were against the rules of the forum.
 
How can monozygotic brothers be from different race? Please, check up the dictionary for the meaning of the words you are undiscriminatingly using. So far I would kindly suggest a viable substitute - ethnopsychological. Wink
 
As for the (not to be commented) video, it should have been posted in the opening statement. Please, don't waste our time.
 
 I was not referring to that. There was another post that has since been deleted, you must have missed it, but I would imagine that if it had not been, 90% of the members of this forum would have been offended, I was.
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write whatever you want on this forum we love you BOZ
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Fatt you remind me of the
FBI - or is it CIA
 
anyway I know only from 100000000 shows on tv at night -
 
you are like the moderator that never appears until its time for the heavies, big fellas got no time for trouble..  
 
I'll b back - love you 2 - oh so sweet! mmm Hug
 
dam that sounds a touch not my kind of sexuality.  But I believe in free hugs for anyone and everyone that wants one - of course unless you are bad.
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Originally posted by bozbrisvegas bozbrisvegas wrote:

The word dumi - I was guessing was smoke come out of my head - but that is not the meaning - according to our Bulgarian friend here
 
Ha-ha, that's amazing - how words are related over ages and countries. Dhuma (pronounced duma) in Sanskrit is precisely smoke, as in "atra dhumas tatra vahnih" - there is no smoke without fire. Smile
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Wow... Imago you speak Sanskrit too??? cool. ^^
I miss the race thing too, darn, I have to work.. who said what? LOL
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Originally posted by bozbrisvegas bozbrisvegas wrote:

ok I dont care for race talk - what I am upset about now is that someone has gone and deleted what I said - Im not mistaken because jfk commented on the smoke coming out my head which is the post that he must have deleted on me.
 
The word dumi - I was guessing was smoke come out of my head - but that is not the meaning - according to our Bulgarian friend here
 
I assume you mean me?
 
I have deleted no posts in this thread. It has picked up pace though so you might need to look back further than you think to find it.
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Imago - Im very interested now a Bulgarian, mixed with Sanskrit...  How come you know this.  Which kind of Bulgarian are you (you can pm me if you prefer)  Not sure if Bulgaria is anything like Macedonia, but I know that have been borders move and my great grandfather has fought for 3 different sides being from Strumica.
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Ok lets get back to topic
1. Everyone is a pretender on this forum (except APW and any of his cronies.
 
2.  He is allowed to tell it as it is, but we are not allowed to "counter criticise"
 
3.  Boz's new point is if its acceptable to label us pretenders than it also acceptable for us to label you with whatever we choose.  Hence the importance of proof of your greater table tennis ability became an issue.
 
Not one example of proof to show you playing like a non pretender (thats to pretend that the concept of pretender actually exists anywhere but in apw's mind.
 
This post is not about my video anymore - its about apws reputation and prooving how he is much better than a pretender.
 
 
Yours trully
 
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This thread has become like a child's school yard.    Cant you guys just get over your net egos?  Talk about holding a grudge.  What is it that they say about those whom argue over the net..... 
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what is all this crap?
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its some people who got their feelings hurt so they are fighting back
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Jossix and Rich unless you can prove to be of a higher league player than APW than you are a pretender too.  Most people don't actualy play table tennis they just pretend to be great players.

that Lixiao is what it total as you would say c&^p
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lol  boz  I could care less about my ability compared to anyone Else's, or what I look like playing. I play because it is so fun....and that's all.  You are both much better than I and probably have been playing 10 times longer and 100 times the training compared to me.

I just like playing TT.  But I also do not get so worked up about others opinions anymore.  My point was just that.  He has his opinion....you have yours. Agree to disagree and get on with your time here.  Everyone can make a decision as to how you both feel here....try not to be so personally offended and think about what it would be like if you met in person?  Or maybe not....lol       

We are all pretenders......were human.   Your born...you pretend....you die.  Don't get so worked up about it all man.  Chillax Bros! 

  
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I dont care about my ability either - I play for fun
 
If I met him in person - now thats an interesting idea.  I would get along as I do here, smile. 
 
No No we are not all pretenders, he isn't a pretender.
 
But everyone else who isn't semi professional.
 
I believe we are born and nobody stops trying until they die.
 
But how pessimistic to believe you are born and then pretend to live and then die.
 
You are living, enjoy it and don't let anyone tell you a tryhard.  Be who you want to be because life is over to quickly.
 
I think he pretends to be a non-pretender.
 
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Originally posted by bozbrisvegas bozbrisvegas wrote:

I think he pretends to be a non-pretender.


.......... gud un Bozzz.. Big%20smile
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Who are APWs 'cronies' just so I know whether I need to come in here?
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Crickey, this is still going? Yes Boz we are all pretenders, me included, My point being that the less you copy someone else, the more you will find your own game. When I was young, I changed who I was copying weekly.
If you look back to the start of this thread, you will see that i did not actually call you personally a 'pretender' I said that people who copy top player are.
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Originally posted by APW46 APW46 wrote:

It is so difficult on these forums, players post clips inviting comments/ advice, but easily get miffed when they receive it, as soon as I saw your initial clip I thought that you guys were trying to play a tad above what you are capable of, there is nothing wrong with it, many do it, but then never fully understand why they don't make the next grade up.
 
Commonly known within my coaching circles as 'great pretenders'
 
I wish you both well, you sure are keen enough to deserve it.
 
 Why does that hurt so much? have you though for just a minute that there may be a little nugget of advice in there?
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Just a thought..

Have you ever think about how others feels because of your posts APW?
If you get into slinging match in DTTW, OOAK, and MYTT with different personalities perhaps you should take a good look in the mirror and see where the problem lies.. 
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