ZLC & H3

ZLF is better than ZLC IMO.  Just giving my humble opinion.  

I have a friend who has used the Innerforce ZLF with H3 Neo who said it couldn't be any more terrible. He is now using the ZLC with TG3 Neo and couldn't be happier.

Edited by zeio - 01/27/2014 at 12:38am

Don't get confused on me here. ZLF + H3 Neo = no good. ZLC + TG3 Neo = godly

I've read the Butterfly patent for the Tamca 5000 and Arylate fiber. The differences in stiffness, frequency of first mode of vibration and damping ratio are mathematically significant. I suppose the same to be true for Zylon fiber.

I used to use H3 with Timo Boll ZLC, it was neither bad nor good. I think ALC would be a safer bet if you choose a composite blade with H3.

The soul of rock wrote: I used to use H3 with Timo Boll ZLC, it was neither bad nor good. I think ALC would be a safer bet if you choose a composite blade with H3.

Let's get this straighten out once and for all.

Here is your question: "I heard ZLC is great with Tenergy 05 which is kind of medium-hard rubber. Anyone try them with H3 or Chinese rubbers? Is it a good match?"

Here is my answer. "Innerforce ZLC + TG3 Neo = terrific"

Since my friend happens to have tried the Innerforce ZLF as well, I added that "Innerforce ZLF + H3 Neo = terrible"

I even embedded his match video for you to examine. He has won quite a few titles at city-wide opens both in singles and doubles.

Rest assured it was not the sheet. He thought it was a bad glue job, and had it redone numerous times. Didn't like it. Later he tried T05. Still didn't like it. Go figure. He went on to try Jun Mizutani for a short while. Then came the Innerforce ZLC, he has stayed with it for over a year. He used Spinart for some time before switching to TG3 Neo due to cost.

[Lightbulb moment]Ugh! That's the reason Butterfly art designers use ZLCarbon/ZLFiber on the blade face and package! Genius!!

That's certainly weird. We've switched paddles and I could outlast him in a counterloop rally away from table on forehand and he could do the same to me on backhand. It comes down to technique. Nonetheless, the woody flex does feel a little awkward at first, not something you'd usually expect of a composite blade.

PS I want to add that after he has tried my setup, he liked it so much he actually got himself a Viscaria. Guess what. He didn't like it, so there you have it.

Edited by zeio - 01/29/2014 at 12:28am

Commercial H3 is not that fast but if you play close to the table with an OFF blade it is OK.  Currently I have H3 on the FH of a BCX5 and it works well.  I have 802-1 1.8mm on the BH.

aroonkl wrote: tt4me wrote: H3 is not the kind of rubber you want to get into loop and counter loop exchanges away from the table but close to the table it works well. I beg to be different. Close to table, it is great. Mid to Far from table, it is still great. It is a matter if you are used to it. You need to loop like loop drive, (partial hit & partial brush), crush the ball and let it sink in. Far away from table and use brush loop with H3 will do you no good.