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Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Tom, I told ya wct would keep losing to low ranked players, what I said has been proven true time and time again. 
This time he loses to a 16 year old Korean with a world ranking of 305 in the first round.
But I don't think this is an upset at all, we all expect wct to lose to low ranked players in most ittf tournaments he participates in. 
I think even 11 year old Sora Matsushima would fancy his chance against him.LOL


And why you care all the time who defeats wct? If you would be sure that he s overrated you wouldnt be posting. He s your obssesion
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Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Tom, I told ya wct would keep losing to low ranked players, what I said has been proven true time and time again. 
This time he loses to a 16 year old Korean with a world ranking of 305 in the first round.
But I don't think this is an upset at all, we all expect wct to lose to low ranked players in most ittf tournaments he participates in. 
I think even 11 year old Sora Matsushima would fancy his chance against him.LOL

no. it is time to time and not time and time again.  I am afraid you either don't know how to use the phrase or deliberately spreading lies like Igor.

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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Tom, I told ya wct would keep losing to low ranked players, what I said has been proven true time and time again. 
This time he loses to a 16 year old Korean with a world ranking of 305 in the first round.
But I don't think this is an upset at all, we all expect wct to lose to low ranked players in most ittf tournaments he participates in. 
I think even 11 year old Sora Matsushima would fancy his chance against him.LOL


And why you care all the time who defeats wct? If you would be sure that he s overrated you wouldnt be posting. He s your obssesion

Just want to reinforce my point that he is probably the most overrated top 10 ranked players I have ever seen.   ( hence the posting after each of wct's defeat by a low ranked player ). The hilarious thing is some people on this forum still think he is a top 10 level player. LOLConfusedLOL
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Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Tom, I told ya wct would keep losing to low ranked players, what I said has been proven true time and time again. 
This time he loses to a 16 year old Korean with a world ranking of 305 in the first round.
But I don't think this is an upset at all, we all expect wct to lose to low ranked players in most ittf tournaments he participates in. 
I think even 11 year old Sora Matsushima would fancy his chance against him.LOL


And why you care all the time who defeats wct? If you would be sure that he s overrated you wouldnt be posting. He s your obssesion

Just want to reinforce my point that he is probably the most overrated top 10 ranked players I have ever seen.   ( hence the posting after each of wct's defeat by a low ranked player ). The hilarious thing is some people on this forum still think he is a top 10 level player. LOLConfusedLOL
he is not top 10, keep updated
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Tom, I told ya wct would keep losing to low ranked players, what I said has been proven true time and time again. 
This time he loses to a 16 year old Korean with a world ranking of 305 in the first round.
But I don't think this is an upset at all, we all expect wct to lose to low ranked players in most ittf tournaments he participates in. 
I think even 11 year old Sora Matsushima would fancy his chance against him.LOL


And why you care all the time who defeats wct? If you would be sure that he s overrated you wouldnt be posting. He s your obssesion

Just want to reinforce my point that he is probably the most overrated top 10 ranked players I have ever seen.   ( hence the posting after each of wct's defeat by a low ranked player ). The hilarious thing is some people on this forum still think he is a top 10 level player. LOLConfusedLOL
he is not top 10, keep updated

He did occupy the top 10 spot for 4 years and was a top 10 player only  a few months ago. 

I think 18th is still too high for himLOL


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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Tom, I told ya wct would keep losing to low ranked players, what I said has been proven true time and time again. 
This time he loses to a 16 year old Korean with a world ranking of 305 in the first round.
But I don't think this is an upset at all, we all expect wct to lose to low ranked players in most ittf tournaments he participates in. 
I think even 11 year old Sora Matsushima would fancy his chance against him.LOL


And why you care all the time who defeats wct? If you would be sure that he s overrated you wouldnt be posting. He s your obssesion

Just want to reinforce my point that he is probably the most overrated top 10 ranked players I have ever seen.   ( hence the posting after each of wct's defeat by a low ranked player ). The hilarious thing is some people on this forum still think he is a top 10 level player. LOLConfusedLOL
he is not top 10, keep updated

Jw not sure wct is overrated him thats why he s after every match  wct plays.somebody who is sure about wct being overrated wouldnt be posting the same thing all the time.wct is a nightmare for him...will jw post always about wct until the end of his career?  He said "we expect to lose wct.".who besides jw? We is more than one person
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He is all right in doubles, 
but he sucks in singles. LOL


Edited by jackwong23 - 07/10/2019 at 12:56pm
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WCT has the life of a professional table tennis player who is healthy, ripped, admired if not envied, makes a good living and hopefully is a happy man. 
What a great life even though he only wished he had done better, I think he does so well, much better than millions of players who can only dream to come close to what he achieved. 
Sometimes I see him more of a penhold euro player who has the game to come close to the top but that's it, a little bit is missing to go through, Timo, Dima and all went through this and he is too. (Schlager and Gatien are the exceptions.) What is missing though is a mystery to me.


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Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

WCT has the life of a professional table tennis player who is healthy, ripped, admired if not envied, makes a good living and hopefully is a happy man. 
What a great life even though he only wished he had done better, I think he does so well, much better than millions of players who can only dream to come close to what he achieved. 
Sometimes I see him more of a penhold euro player who has the game to come close to the top but that's it, a little bit is missing to go through, Timo, Dima and all went through this and he is too. (Schlager and Gatien are the exceptions.) What is missing though is a mystery to me.
apparently he is not as good / happy/ and ripped as JW
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Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Tom, I told ya wct would keep losing to low ranked players, what I said has been proven true time and time again. 
This time he loses to a 16 year old Korean with a world ranking of 305 in the first round.
But I don't think this is an upset at all, we all expect wct to lose to low ranked players in most ittf tournaments he participates in. 
I think even 11 year old Sora Matsushima would fancy his chance against him.LOL


That's absolutely right.


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Harimoto is going to meet WCQ again tomorrow at 20:00!

What will happen this time?

And why does WCQ serve like John McEnroe anyway?
And is that toss legal?
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Can we ban someone for doing a Harimoto impersonation on the forum? I dislike screaming with large font.
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Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Tom, I told ya wct would keep losing to low ranked players, what I said has been proven true time and time again. 
This time he loses to a 16 year old Korean with a world ranking of 305 in the first round.
But I don't think this is an upset at all, we all expect wct to lose to low ranked players in most ittf tournaments he participates in. 
I think even 11 year old Sora Matsushima would fancy his chance against him.LOL


And why you care all the time who defeats wct? If you would be sure that he s overrated you wouldnt be posting. He s your obssesion

Just want to reinforce my point that he is probably the most overrated top 10 ranked players I have ever seen.   ( hence the posting after each of wct's defeat by a low ranked player ). The hilarious thing is some people on this forum still think he is a top 10 level player. LOLConfusedLOL
he is not top 10, keep updated

He did occupy the top 10 spot for 4 years and was a top 10 player only  a few months ago. 

I think 18th is still too high for himLOL

you were 10 years old once (and maybe is still in certain aspects) but would it be accurate if you told people you are still 10 years old???  Just admit you were wrong and move on.


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I really think it's no big deal. jackwong23 thinks WCT is overrated. tom thinks HT is overrated. zeio thinks Ishikawa is overrated. Like I said... no big deal.
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https://tv.ittf.com/video/karlsson-kristian-sirucek-pavel/1627424

Anyone watch the Karlsson - Sirucek match? When I first saw Siruec serve I had to replay it a few times as he makes absolutely no attempt to move the arm out of the way, it's the sort of serve that I would even point out in a local league match as clearly being illegal (albeit I would still be impressed at seeing such high quality spin and deception in the local league). 

Obviously part of the blade lies with Karlsson for being a lefty which makes it harder to see these types of serves but surely the umpires should have called Siruec out for his serve. 
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

I really think it's no big deal. jackwong23 thinks WCT is overrated. tom thinks HT is overrated. zeio thinks Ishikawa is overrated. Like I said... no big deal.
  for the record, I didn't say HT was overrated or commented on his skill.  I just don't like his table manners and I think he lacks consistency .
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Originally posted by Simon_plays Simon_plays wrote:

Anyone watch the Karlsson - Sirucek match? When I first saw Siruec serve I had to replay it a few times as he makes absolutely no attempt to move the arm out of the way, it's the sort of serve that I would even point out in a local league match as clearly being illegal (albeit I would still be impressed at seeing such high quality spin and deception in the local league). 

Well, 99% of pro serves are illegal. The only one on the top who serves legally most of the time is Samsonov. It distracts the hell out of me sometimes when I watch, cause on every serve I go "fault, illegal serve", and then I miss the point and have to rewind to watch it. 
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

[QUOTE=pongfugrasshopper]I really think it's no big deal. jackwong23 thinks WCT is overrated. tom thinks HT is overrated. zeio thinks Ishikawa is overrated. Like I said... no big deal.
  for the record, I didn't say HT was overrated or commented on his skill.  I just don't like his table manners and I think he lacks consistency .[/QUOTE

Jw knows deep down that wct is not overrated because he needs to point that all tournaments .repeating the same argument proves that jw is aware that nobody thinks the same about wct .funny no matter how much he bash wct he s a good player sooner or later wct will beat HT and will be funny last time was very close 
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[QUOTE=Simon_plays]
Anyone watch the Karlsson - Sirucek
Well, 99% of pro serves are illegal. The only one on the top who serves legally most of the time is Samsonov. It distracts the hell out of me sometimes when I watch, cause on every serve I go "fault, illegal serve", and then I miss the point and have to rewind to watch it. 

Sure, but hiding with your body or even your head is a skill and I understand why some umpires find it tricky to spot. However, keeping the free arm in the way is level 1 serve hiding and so easy to spot that there's no excuse for umpires to let it happen for an entire match. (Although they might have called it after the 2nd set, stopped watching midway through.)
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Harimoto had 2 game points, but he couldn't make it.
WCQ won the first game.
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update:  WCQ also won 2nd game.

Anyone watching?



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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Harimoto had 2 game points, but he couldn't make it.
WCQ won the first game.
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update:  WCQ also won 2nd game.

Anyone watching?

some will say that Harimoto has not taken his A game because he keeps it for Tokyo 2020:))
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some will say that Harimoto has not taken his A game because he keeps it for Tokyo 2020:))
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Harimoto hides his A-game really well, so that nobody can beat him in 2020 Tokyo.
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WCQ now leads 3-0.
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

...zeio thinks Ishikawa is overrated. Like I said... no big deal.

To set the record straight, Ishikawa is not overrated. She's getting in the long way.

She gets to where she is now through her hard work. She's the only one from her generation(Misaki Morizono, Ayuka Tanioka...) who is still at the top. But her submission to China is getting in the way of the up-and-coming players. It's high time she passed the baton.
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WCQ beat Harimoto 4-0.
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I guess Harimoto is not THE one after all.. Unhappy

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I guess Harimoto is not THE one after all.. Unhappy

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Some very interesting results so far:

SYS 4-1 over WMY with a 11-2 clobbering in the 5th game.  Yui Hamamoto nearly loses but comes back from down 0-3 vs. 46 year old Australian Lay Jian Fang.  Sun Mingyang beats ZYL 4-1.  I think that's it for ZYL's chances for this Olympic cycle.  A couple of non-Chinese trying to stay in the top 15 are taken out: Zhang Qiang (CHN) takes out CIC 4-2, Choi Hyojoo over FTW, 4-2.  Miu Hirano (yay!) takes out CNT member Qian Tianyi 4-2.

FZD holds on to win over KK 4-3.  Falck 4-1 over LJH, who played very well at the Korea Open.  Lin Yun Ju 4-3 over Koki Niwa.  WCQ again beats HT 4-0.  I hope WCQ goes far at this Open.  Just as I've said before, he deserves a *much* higher world ranking.  
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Just as I've said before, he deserves a *much* higher world ranking.  
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Agree with you.

WCQ is currently ranked at #71.

Easily among top 20.
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Now he's playing regularly, WCQ will get a much higher ranking. He is essentially a player whose missed part of the 1 year cycle, due to not playing.

Same happened with lgy and ljk. 

Im surprised its taken this long for harimoto to actually fall on hard times. He might have well done in  the past but his rise has almost had no fall as he dealt with adversity and pressure so well.

Will be interesting if he can continue to play like the #1 contender to the chinese, and indeed continue to challenge the top 5.


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