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blahness ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 10/18/2009 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 4065 |
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Can't believe I'm saying this, but FZD shown the world that passive play is here to stay lol... Sounds like an oxymoron hahaha |
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stiltt ![]() Assistant Admin ![]() ![]() Joined: 07/15/2007 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 432 |
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or FZD is so good he can just stand there and manage, watching other people self destruct. He went through that on his way to the top and now it's his turn to let people dance for him. He is the new boss for good at only 23yo. 2020-2030 is his, he has a decade ahead of him starting now at the highest level. Knowing his prime is still ahead is scary.
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blahness ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 10/18/2009 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 4065 |
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I really like how you describe the mindset of a blocker haha... Let other people dance for you
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Valiantsin ![]() Super Member ![]() Joined: 05/21/2020 Location: OFallon Status: Offline Points: 185 |
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It's an evolution :) Initially he was over aggressive and played insanely close to table - he was trying to reach Olympus. That time FZD struggled with big 3 of that time MaLong, XuXin and JJike. I heard comments of liu guoliang of a game between FZD and XuXin of that time - he told about that weekness - yes - you limit your opponent with that playstyle and if he is not ready - you can win, but if you are ready to such kind of game - you will win and XuXin did it effortlessly. Exactly the same situation with Harimoto - totally the same steps. After that FZD became more stable he moved to more powerful than speedy/tempoish game and he outplayed all the big 3 couple of times - but mostly he lost to MaLong. Also saw comment of game from LiuGuoliang when he commented the time when FZD easily outplayed XuXin - he mentioned that facts. Why Harimoto yet not changed to that state? - because he is not yet so powerfull - and his technique of forehand is not so good like top-chinese have. Also he has lack in movement and he plays girlish style of game - his BH is fast but not powerful - he uses t05fx because of this. Look on his opponents - when he bh flicks - the ball often times go to net - there is no enough energy in it. But he evolving little by little and may be finally will trap to this situation. And now final result - FZD got ready to MaLong tricks (even though on peek still Ma would win - today he is not so fast/powerfull like he used to be competing Ma Lin Wang Hao, Wan Liquin as he was younger flexier) he studied game, he prepared mentally (even though all we know who was training him and how he can struggle (I am about Wan Hao)) It's enough to win those guys who are playing the style he knows. But what about his dominance in future 10 years? I really doubt in it. Harimoto can win him just in case when he is on killing streak, will such kind of stability save FZD? Do not think so, to win Harimoto steadily - he should switch back to second - more powerfull game. What about LinYunJu? Yes -it is rising nightmare for all of them. Somebody can tell about him as about assasin because he rose once when nobody expected. But I disagree - he yet have too many zones of growing - for example just a bit more muscles and he will be able to out power FZD. He is fast like Harimoto, but the quality of shots is much better. Experience - he is getting it little by little and already have experience of winning against huge guys. FZD is hard working and may be a good concurent to him, but he is so much slower :( his movement is so much shorter. Who else? If wang chuqin could deal with his emotions - he could be next number 1. He is lefty, he is fast, he is powerful but not mentaly stable. lin gaoyuan has not enough power and he is small bones guy - there will not be much more that he has now - or he will become next Liang Jingkun- guy of one tournament. You may say - but Waldner was guy of one tournament :) Ok - but it was long ago - rules changed pretty drastically. |
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jfolsen ![]() Silver Member ![]() Joined: 03/15/2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 902 |
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Agree it's better than it used to be. The problem is that it's not good enough. Watch how many times people push out to his BH and punish his opening.
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mykonos96 ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 07/19/2018 Location: Southam Status: Offline Points: 1394 |
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Fzd and ma was tien 7 all in the 7th game and the last 4 points were BH rips to win
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NextLevel ![]() Forum Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: 12/15/2011 Location: Somewhere Good Status: Offline Points: 13360 |
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The way I interpret what is happening is that Ma Long seems to have lost something on his cross footwork so he is developing tools to reduce his need to execute a cross as much as possible. But moving the ball around in the backhand court doesn't work against Fan as Fan is really aggressive down the line so Ma Long needs another strategy when the match is close.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Mazunov FH: TBD (MX-S, C1) BH: C1 Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
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blahness ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 10/18/2009 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 4065 |
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FZD's BH is better than Ma Long so he can bully Ma Long's BH... But he can't do that against LJK coz LJK has an even better BH than FZD.... |
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blahness ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 10/18/2009 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 4065 |
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I think his issue is that his openings are almost exclusively diagonal which are predictable even though he does generate some incredible spin on them, I haven't seen him open confidently down the line with quality....unlike the new gen who all can do it regularly....
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Hurricane Long 5 FH: Dignics 09c BH: Dignics 09c |
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blahness ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 10/18/2009 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 4065 |
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It's probably the knee injury and surgery, once you have an injury nothing is the same anymore.... He seems to be increasing the spin quality of his loops to avoid opponents being able to counter them (I suspect he's actually gonna break 7000rpm soon just like Xu Xin). I've seen the bounces on his loops getting increasingly lower and everyone is having much more difficulty dealing with them.... It's quite an adjustment to someone who has grown up on speed heavy powerloops.
Edited by blahness - 10/11/2020 at 5:43pm |
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Hurricane Long 5 FH: Dignics 09c BH: Dignics 09c |
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mykonos96 ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 07/19/2018 Location: Southam Status: Offline Points: 1394 |
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AFAIK ,MA long went surgery before 2019 wttc and won the tittle, I think is the same plot" I will pretend my game is on downfall so opponents will be offguard" .Remember when people said before 2019 wttc that ma long was burnt Edited by mykonos96 - 10/11/2020 at 10:12pm |
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