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Togami out. Japan's men's team is out.
LYJ out. Chinese Taipei men's team is out.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mykonos96 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/25/2021 at 5:22pm
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Togami out.
LYJ out.

Dang, korean dude is so fierce.
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Sad to see LYJ lose, but what a match between him and Lim Jonghoon.  You've gotta watch game 7 of this match.  Crowd was going crazy which is the way it should be.
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live scoring system is bad
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Matches are cool
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Togami out. Japan's men's team is out.
LYJ out. Chinese Taipei men's team is out.

What????!!!
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Thursday 25th, LGY plays in a 1/2 hour, Gauzy (the next champion) in 2.5 hours.

Daniel HABESOHN
WONG Chun Ting
 4:00 PM PST

Tomislav PUCAR
LIN Gaoyuan
 4:00 PM PST

Kirill SKACHKOV
Darko JORGIC
4:40 PM PST

LIANG Jingkun
Benedikt DUDA
 5:20  PM PST

Truls MOREGARD
Patrick FRANZISKA
 5:20  PM PST

Kristian KARLSSON
Alexandre CASSIN
6 PM PST

FAN Zhendong
Emmanuel LEBESSON
6:40 PM  PST

Yang WANG
Simon GAUZY
6:40 PM  PST


Timo BOLL
PANG Yew En Koen
 7:20PM PST

Ruwen FILUS
Jakub DYJAS
 7:20PM PST

Cedric NUYTINCK
Hugo CALDERANO 
 7:20PM PST

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LYJ was in bad condition, he played too fast in  European Championship Team Group's. He lost with Lev Katsman and he didn't look like beast.
Harimoto- he is young player who plays in competition in young age but his success in young age makes him more and more demotivated when he start to see lack of progression so for me he must hide from the world, gain so muscles, take so many baddies from hood  and take lessons from all real n8 and start new life and  after year of degeneration when he lose everything,  make a  comeback without shouting and wearing gold necklaces.
For me at this level young players are under the pressure and you can see that Harimoto is not with good vibes.

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The live stream by WTT at youtube does not support playback. Really bad..
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It seems that a lot of audiences are just standing outside of the barrier. Never seen this in other events. 
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I thought Moregard would not make it at some point, it was so close.

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Moregard up 7-3 in 7th.   Then down 8-10, I thought he was going to give it away but somehow pulls through.  His no spin pushes gave Franziska a lot of trouble.
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Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

I thought Moregard would not make it at some point, it was so close.

He nearly choked too LOL he's using some weird shaped racket lol
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It's Franziska we're talking here. He always chokes in final game.
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JJH out. SHW last South Korean woman standing.

Edited by zeio - 11/25/2021 at 11:17pm
Viscaria FL - 91g
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Originally posted by Egghead Egghead wrote:

Originally posted by Tiggs_1 Tiggs_1 wrote:

Kanak makes it to round of 16...
good for him, the low half is so wide open now (LIN Yun-Ju is in trouble too.)


In the Bundesliga thread I predicted Kanak would make the final 16.  I hope he proves me wrong and goes further.  His consistent style is really working well in this tournament.
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Gauzy lost.
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Gauzy lost.
yes, that chopper was awesome though, his quick fh can be so devastating and he is so powerful in everything he does. I think Gauzy suffered the same lack of training v. choppers than Kreanga did when playing his 1/2 final v. Joo in Paris 2003. While Schlager had Chen Weixing in his national team to know what to do, Kreanga did not. It's just an idea I pull out of my hat... there are most likely many more factors, like Wang playing super strong today, he delivered when it mattered.

Thanks for trying hard Simon, you are the best no matter what!!!


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Originally posted by Lightspin Lightspin wrote:

Originally posted by Egghead Egghead wrote:

Originally posted by Tiggs_1 Tiggs_1 wrote:

Kanak makes it to round of 16...
good for him, the low half is so wide open now (LIN Yun-Ju is in trouble too.)


In the Bundesliga thread I predicted Kanak would make the final 16.  I hope he proves me wrong and goes further.  His consistent style is really working well in this tournament.
good call! and what a very nice way to "prove" yourself wrong! :)

GO KANAK!
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Japan is off. Shibata actually performed the best. Hayata second. Nothing to pick on for their first time. Ito and Hirano third. Ishikawa fifth as she has the easiest draw. Uda a complete train wreck. Morizono gave his best. Niwa should have retired along with Mizutani. Harimoto gave off the same vibe as in the Olympic singles, not good, not bad, not ugly, but just didn't feel like he was winning when having the lead. Togami put up a decent performance for his first time. Didn't find his groove in the R32 against WCQ due to lack of experience.

South Korea continues its streaky tradition after Tokyo 2020. The eldest SHW and not-so-surprising LJH who missed out on the Olympics happen to be their last hope. Shindong is paying her tuition fee. JJH has been in a slump after the Olympics, especially after losing to Hayata 4 times at WTT and ATTC in a week. Still, Lee Zion and Choi Hyojoo reached their target performance. JWJ, AJH and Hwang Minha all lost with a game score of 3-4, not bad per se, but considering JWJ and AJH were the quarter-finalist and bronze medalist at WTTC 2019, first round exit is deflating. Lim Jonghoon is not so surprising if you've followed him. Running against the tradition, he's got a rather stable record in the World Tour the past few years, which had become really unfriendly to unseeded players after the World Ranking reform in 2018.

Similar to South Korea, Chinese Taipei has been all-or-nothing the last few years. CIC is their last hope. Chen Szu-yu performed to expectations. Cheng Hsien-tzu choked but really not much to expect over the years. At age 34, Liu Hsing-yin played well to level her R32 result at WTTC 2019. Li Yu-jhun reached her target on her first try. LYJ and CCY losing 3-4, again not bad per se, but people certainly had high expectations of them after Tokyo 2020 and ATTC 2021. CCY is said to have an injury relapse so another factor to consider. CCA played well at ATTC 2021 so first round exit here was unexpected. Liao Cheng-ting lost to Harimoto in R32 on his first try at WTTC 2017, so a first round exit with that score is a little perplexing. Feng Yi-hsin could become another LYJ but has to pay his tuition fee in his first WTTC.

Hong Kong is a pleasant surprise here. WCT is playing his best in recent times. Unlike JJH, DHK looks as solid as in Tokyo 2020, despite losing to Hayata 5 times in a week. After the Olympics, she spent like a month resting, attending local events, playing WTT and ATTC, with little time on systemic training. Lam Siu Hang, Ho Kwan Kit, Lee Ho Ching, Ng Wing Nam, and Zhu Chengzhu reached their target performance. Last but not least, Soo Wai Yam forgot to dye her hair pink.

Edited by zeio - 11/26/2021 at 1:51am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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lin yun ju should start working on his body and put some muscles…he is weak compared to many top players…his game would benefit a lot i think 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kakapo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/26/2021 at 2:47am
Boll has everything to go to the final.....at 40 years old ! I cross my fingers for him.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bozbrisvegas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/26/2021 at 2:57am
Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Boll has everything to go to the final.....at 40 years old ! I cross my fingers for him.
  He missed a lot of stuff but clearly his style has changed at the table more and more hard drive in the primorac carbon he changed to.  When he contacts most the time his forehand looks much faster.  

So much lower throw than I used to see from the tenergy ALC combination.  More direct.  SPEED.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote seguso Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/26/2021 at 3:07am
I don't know if you know, but all the videos are here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIl_mJ3zK7B_hKsw2TLV-m09rL6KqpfBA


they are unlisted, so they don't show up on the home page (or in the videos section). So they are hard to find, but they are there.

scroll to the bottom. the latest ones are there. You can watch Boll vs Pang and Franziska vs Moregard.


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Franziska had 5-3 with Moregaard in Ettu s Group the funny part is last set is only  to 6 points and they serve only one time and change 
so Franziska lost in the same situation. Truls performed his best under pressure when he see Franziska
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Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

It seems that a lot of audiences are just standing outside of the barrier. Never seen this in other events. 

It was such an eye sore. It was as if those who stood watching didn’t want to pay for seating in the VIP sections. Too bad the organizer didn’t do anything about it. Also, the ball boys were absolutely horrendous. I saw two ball boys who were skipping and throwing balls in the air while everyone was waiting for them. Even the umpire got fed up to tell the kids to hurry up. Their parents should be ashamed and embarrassed for volunteering their kids when they clearly looked bored out of their little minds, and the organizer should also be embarrassed for selecting senseless kids who have no sense of seriousness at all. Seriously, some kids were spinning in seats, one was seen planking, another was sitting on the floor, wtf. Total embarrassment for the usatt to show the rest of the world. Last vent was the venue, I’ve always liked stadium held wttcs, but this convention center venue was bad in terms of crowd display. For the round of 16, I would at least expect a lot more spectators, take for example the previous wttcs, you can at least see rows upon rows and levels of spectators. But over here, there is only one level of rows of spectators. I believe with such poor spectator turnout from this past few days, ittf will take a hard look again at hosting another etc on US soil in the future.
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Originally posted by Lightspin Lightspin wrote:

Originally posted by Egghead Egghead wrote:

Originally posted by Tiggs_1 Tiggs_1 wrote:

Kanak makes it to round of 16...
good for him, the low half is so wide open now (LIN Yun-Ju is in trouble too.)


In the Bundesliga thread I predicted Kanak would make the final 16.  I hope he proves me wrong and goes further.  His consistent style is really working well in this tournament.


Jha has Filus next. They played twice in Germany in 2020-21 (TTBL and German Cup), with Kanak winning the first match and Ruwen the second (3-2 each time). But both seem to be stronger now than last year.

Lily Zhang played a great match by the way, she would have deserved to advance too.


Edited by amateur - 11/26/2021 at 7:18am
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Hi,

Our boy Truls will beat Lim of South Korea.  Truls' diversity is troubling for those out of the orthodoxy as the Koreans are.

Thanks.


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