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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10424 |
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Here is Li Sun's analysis before WTTC 2018 where he mentioned Szocs and Batra.
http://sports.sina.com.cn/others/pingpang/2018-04-17/doc-ifzihnen8329088.shtml
As for the opponents, he first recommended Japan and analyzed them one by one: "In the past, everyone knew that Japan was only slightly stronger than other teams. During the Rio Olympics, Japan lost to Germany in the semifinals. But after Rio, Japan has surpassed other teams as a whole. Our main opponent is Japan, and the four players in Japan have their own characteristics. Recently, like Ishikawa (Kasumi) adjusted her equipment a while ago, her one-shot ability is much better than in the past; Hirano (Miu) has gone through a period of downturn, and I think she has adjusted very well. In the knockout round of the Asian Cup, she played at a very high level in the second match with Zhu Yuling, but it’s a pity that match was not broadcast live. As for Ito (Mima), she plays very uniquely. The speed of the backhand, including explosive power, is very threatening. So how can we plan ahead and prepare for difficulties first? I think it is still very important.” ... In addition to Japan, he said that the young players in other teams also deserve great attention, including the 15-year-old [TL's note: 19] South Korean player Kim Jiho who won the U21 title in the Polish Challenge, the Romanian player Szocs who won the T2, and recently the Indian player Batra, who defeated Feng Tianwei twice in the women's team and women's singles event of the Commonwealth Games, etc.: "I think we should pay more attention to some of the young players, because only when young players play well will the disruptive problems emerge." |
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I don't know if it has any special significance. Talking about Hayata as Japan's No. 1 is like asking why do we discuss the Japanese women's TT progress on the internet? Different people will have different reasons, but for me it's because it's fun! I think it's human nature to talk about the top player in this or that region of the world in whatever sport they're interested in. As for beating Mima Ito, HH has already done this at the 2020 All Japan when Mima Ito was the top player in Japan. So even though it hasn't happened (yet) in this Olympic cycle, I don't see it as being a big deal. HH has a good head on her shoulders so I don't think it's a big deal for her either. It's actually seems strange to me that you think this *needs* to happen because it breaks your sequence of things that must happen as if this were some video game. But to each his own.
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Because it is an interesting fact just as many other sports facts are interesting. And there are people who would disagree on the significance of Hayata being #1 with your or me, it is just sports debate. But Hayata as #1 is currently sports fact. It's pretty hard to debate even as currently and historically, it is clear Ito and Hirano are more accomplished internationally. It is the Ito head to head that is just weird as an important thing. So Togami is now more viable than Hayata because he has beaten Harimoto?
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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See original post for complete player standings.
As of 2023/01/29 after Zennihon Takkyu 2023 ![]() ![]() Edited by zeio - 01/29/2023 at 11:35am |
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Based on final standings at Zennoh Cup Funabashi
![]() It's not explicitly stated but I suppose the final standings at Zennihon Takkyu 2023 will be used to seed Zennihon Takkyu 2024. That means Ishikawa will likely play the role of final boss. https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8235266594 石川应该是不可能进巴黎名单的了,但完全可以作为决定前三的最大搅局者 2楼2023-01-27 17:34 It should be impossible for Ishikawa to enter the Paris roster, but she can totally be the biggest spoiler to decide the top 3 https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8236909589 这一次的签对平野太有利了,半区有木原,张本,石川,另一边伊藤qf要面对芝田,还有种子炸弹横井,加藤,长崎。 这一次一定要把握机会进决赛,如果伊藤不进前四,就会一次抹平和伊藤世界排名带来的积分差,也能反超木原。 如果这一次没有把握机会,后面的签表就不一定�£么有利了,四分之一抽到�£�樱花这样的好事后面两次可能没有了。 反�£第四次选考,主要准备石川和�£�两个对手。一定要把该赢的赢了,要不然后面被做签到qf对早田,想哭都没地方。 1楼2023-01-28 23:46 This time the draw is too good for Hirano. There are Kihara, Harimoto, and Ishikawa in the top half, and Ito on the other half will face Shibata in QF, and there are the seed bombs Yokoi, Kato, and Nagasaki. This time, she must seize the opportunity to reach the final. If Ito does not make the SF, she will even out the points difference brought about by Ito's world ranking and overtake Kihara. If she doesn't seize the opportunity this time, the subsequent draws may not be so favorable, and such a good thing of getting Mori in a quarter may not be there the next two times. [TL's note: not true] Anyway, for the fourth selection, mainly prepare for two opponents, Ishikawa and Mori. She must win what should be won, otherwise she will be drawn into QF against Hayata later, and there will be no place to cry. https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8236909589 石川船桥大会输�£�樱在1/8决赛,为16强。能推出石川第四次选拔赛不和�£�樱在同半区。�£�樱8号种子和平野在1/4区,说明石川应在下半区。至于是2号种子的早田希娜4/4区还是3号种子芝田的3/4区不好说 3楼2023-01-29 18:10 Ishikawa lost to Mori in the QF at Zennoh Cup Funabashi, finishing top 16. It can be deduced that Ishikawa's fourth trial will not be in the same half as Mori. The No. 8 seed Mori and Hirano are in the 1st quarter [TL's note: not true], indicating that Ishikawa should be in the lower half. As for whether the No. 2 seed Hayata will be in the 4th qurater or the No. 3 seed Shibata in the 3rd qurater, it's hard to say [TL's note: it's all fixed] https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8236894832 伊藤的世界排名只要不跑出前八,世锦赛亚锦赛至少可以比平野多加60分,平野世界排名太低了,亚运会止步八强只能加20分,如果平野可以在世锦赛亚锦赛上打进八强,形势就会逆转,但目前平野世界排名连前16号种子都不够 1楼2023-01-28 23:29 (Screenshot of Kihara/Ito/Hirano standings after Asian Games) As long as Ito's world ranking does not fall out of the top 8, she can earn at least 60 points more than Hirano at WTTC and ATTC. Hirano's world ranking is too low. She will earn 20 points only if finishing QF at Asian Games, but if she can reach the QF at WTTC and ATTC, the situation will be reversed, but her current world ranking is not even enough for the top 16 seeds. 按目前积分看,平野在田志希申�£�斌之后,为亚运会的6号种子,应该会在上半区,并且为田志希在的2/4区。平野现在要做的就是提升世界排名,不要让郑学姐和陈思羽超过,一旦沦为8号种子就会危险。但看现在的状况,平野应该能到铜牌赛 2楼2023-01-29 18:17 Judging from the current points, Hirano will be the No. 6 seed at the Asian Games behind JJH and SYB. She should be in the upper half and the second quarter with JJH. What Hirano has to do now is to improve the world ranking, and don't let CIC and CSY overtake her. Once she is reduced to the No. 8 seed, it will be dangerous. But judging by the current situation, Hirano should be able to reach the bronze medal match. Edited by zeio - 01/29/2023 at 12:31pm |
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10424 |
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On the 26th, Hayata told reporters about her relationship with Ito and it is implied that she wants to beat Ito in singles.
https://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/articles/-/252146
It is starting to run in circles. Why do you think I made that post about Hayata's win at Zennihon 2020 while noting that many people still thought of her as a doubles specialist at the start of this thread? It serves as a reminder of the following quote: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=92179&PID=1131354
And here we are getting hung up on Hayata being Japan's No. 1. |
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Of course, she should want to beat Ito. And I hope they do meet again in this Paris cycle. But if circumstances happen such that they don't meet again, should Hayata let that become a psychological barrier? BTW, the very last sentence in the tokyo-sports article you linked is translated through Google as: "I have no intention of giving up the number one spot in Japan."
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The person Zeio doesnt think of as number one (or maybe a meaningless number one, whatever that is) because she hasn't beaten Ito has no problem declaring herself #1 regardless. I love it.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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When is the next tournament, Road to Paris?
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Is there any scenario where Hayata and Harimoto don't make Olympic singles?
Given the current standings it seems that only Kihara, Hirano, and Ito have a realistic chance of making the second spot (they should all retire if Ishikawa squeezes herself in again). Out of the three, Ito has the best chance of grabbing the third spot if she doesn't make singles given her (faltering but still strong) record against foreign players, (waning but still present) threat against CNT, and (domestically proven but useless against CNT) doubles with Hayata. Hirano is in danger of missing out completely if she doesn't make singles even though she makes a good doubles partner with Hayata and 14 year old Ito. Not sure how Ito and Hirano will pair up today given how their games have evolved, but JNT doesn't seem too keen on creating double righty pairs anyway. Kihara will probably miss out all together because her only doubles partner is Nagasaki. My guess is that if Kihara makes singles, Hirano is out. If Ito or Hirano make singles, Kihara will be out. As usual, JNT is crippling their lineups by artificially limiting possible doubles combinations. CNT does this way better by pairing up anybody with anybody, and it was JNT's lineup flexibility that allowed them to upset Singapore back in London 2012. Haven't seen that kind of flexibility since they decided to let Ishikawa play 'ace' in Rio 2016.
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10424 |
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Is this where one would usually say "taking things out of context"?
That last line "日本一の座を譲るつもりはない。" is not in quotes and so is likely an interpretation of Tokyo Sports. This practice is common in Japanese news reporting. If you've ever wondered why I post links to the same story from multiple sources... Here is another report by Nikkan Sports on the 28th quoting the same comments made after the first doubles match (round 4) on the 26th, which was explicitly stated. Hayata was addressing her unique relationship with Ito, partners in doubles but rivals in singles. It was a comment directed at Ito. "When it comes to singles, let's clash with each other at 100%." Hayata did not make any mention of "日本一". https://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/202301280000501.html
Regardless, Hayata is the de jure No. 1 in Japan, but to many, Ito is still the de facto No. 1 in Japan. The last Tieba comment below is made by 唐僧W, a very active user who is a fan of 三龙 (literally three dragons, referring to Hirano/Hayata/Ito who were born in 2000, year of the Dragon, the equivalent of the Golden Generation), and is very vocal about having those 3 play at Paris 2024. https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8208988281 我觉得这次全日锦苹果会三冠 26楼2023-01-29 11:53 I feel that Hayata will achieve triple crown this time 帅气霸道总�£�: 先别这么说,毕竟几乎横扫大头的横井,却没能稍挡同样生胶的木原,可见木原已打出新高度,而希娜打生胶的伊藤和安藤常打到决胜局,所以应该还是要苦战。 2023-1-29 12:14回复 Don't say that just yet. After all, Yokoi, who almost shut out Big Head (Ito), failed to fend off Kihara, who also plays raw pips. It can be seen that Kihara has hit a new height, and Hina often has to go the distance against raw pips like Ito and Ando, so it will likely be a close fight. 唐僧W: 回复 帅气霸道总�£� :苹果目前在赢伊藤就日本女子第一了 2023-1-29 13:54回复 Now, as soon as Apple beats Ito, she will become Japanese women's No. 1 Edited by zeio - 01/30/2023 at 4:40am |
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10424 |
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Whoa, it's been 9 years since!
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=69517&PID=846107&title=is-mls-technique-inferior-to-zjk-and-fzd#846107
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Viscaria FL - 91g
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BTW, in that same report by Nikkan Sports. It's mentioned that Ito didn't elaborate but she said her body was not in top form and took painkillers during the tournament.
https://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/202301280000501.html
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In the post-match interview after the WS final, Hayata shares her thoughts on being drawn in the "Quarter of Death", saying "it feels as if kami-sama told me in order to overcome China at Paris Olympics, 'if you don't get past this, then you won't beat Chinese players' and 'if you do, then you're the real deal.'" She added that she wants "to reach the semifinal at a minimum at the WTTC." She further pointed out that she can't win the selection race unless she is at 100% and even if she wins, her technique and precision have not reached the level that can beat Chinese players, therefore, she will have to keep evolving.
https://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/202301290001133.html
https://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/202301290000527.html
https://hochi.news/articles/20230129-OHT1T51118.html?page=1
https://www.chunichi.co.jp/article/626464
https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/tabletennis/news/2023/01/027154.html
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Technically, no spot is safe especially with points being double this year. There is only a 68 pt differential between HH and Kihara and a 90 pt difference between HH and Hirano. Just imagine the implication of one of them getting injured (I hope not!) at the start of a Paris 2024 tournament. That alone could wipe out that difference. And aside from injury, it only takes a couple of bad performances to get surpassed. So they cannot get injured for sure and need to bring their 'A' game each time. But if Ito becomes a candidate for the 3rd spot, most likely she will get it because her pairing with Hina both internationally and being 5 times WD Champions at the Empress Cup. But truth be told, I don't think Ito is the best complement for Hina. I mean SYS/WMY had them running into each other at the 2021 WTTC. And the Chinese were clearly targetting Mima. We don't have much data to go on, but I thought HH and Hirano paired well winning pretty easily WD at Contender Almaty. I don't recall seeing Kihara ever being paired up with Hina. That would be interesting to see, but we probably won't see it because at high level tournaments, we'll probably see just the Mima/HH pairing.
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Hayata/Kihara 0 H2H 2 Ishikawa/Hirano
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Is it possible that draw for the 4th Road to Paris Japan Olympic Trials on May 6-7 is based NOT on the results of the 3rd Road to Paris Trials BUT ON the results of the 2023 All Japan Championships (the more recent tournament)? As I can recall, the 1st Road to Paris Trials draws were also based on the 2022 All Japan Results. I understand that the 2nd Road to Paris Trials used the results from the 1st Road to Paris Trials as the basis of the draw even if the T.League Individual tournament was the more recent tournament, but the seedings there were weird to begin with since it was based on T.League Wins. Given JTTA's peculiar draw methods, whether JTTA uses the 3rd Paris Trials Results or the 2023 All Japan Results could greatly swing the Points Race due to matchups. If ever JTTA does use the 2023 All Japan Championships Results as the basis for the draw, then the draws would look like this: ![]() ![]() That would mean the current #2 to 5 in Points right now (Kihara, Hirano, Ito, Ishikawa) + Harimoto would all be in the same half, and we would likely get several direct confrontation opportunities, so basically, they chart their own destiny. The difference between a R16 exit and winning your half of the draw (2nd place) is 70pts now that points are doubled, so it's a big opportunity for the "2nd spot contenders"
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This might be a controversial take, but after observing both pairs the past few months, Miwa might actually be a better fit for Kihara than Nagasaki. It seems that in the past few months, Nagasaki's shot timing has been off causing the pair several unnecessary errors. Red Elf's Aso/Sasao pair targeted Nagasaki with their serves to prevent/make ineffective Nagasaki's BH Chiquita. Nagasaki was also responsible for more errors in the Sato/Hashimoto QF in the 2023 All Japan Champs. The same was true in last year's QF against Ishikawa/Hirano. Meanwhile, Kihara/Harimoto won the World Youth Championships Doubles Title, and even beat Sato/Hashimoto in T.League (whom Nagasaki/Kihara lost to). I understand that it is a small sample size and that T.League results aren't entirely telling or indicative, but as someone who watched the FULL T.League matches (through Hikaritv.net with Japan VPN), the All Japan Championships, and the World Youth Championships, the eye test does tell me that Kihara/Harimoto meshes better together than Nagasaki/Kihara. It's almost like a MiuMima 2.0 pairing. Watching Miwa Harimoto play doubles with many different partners for the first time and already achieve good results with them even without much experience or practice as a pair (With Tomokazu, Kubiej, Tazoe, Nagasaki, Kihara, Y. Ojio), Miwa is showing glimpses of the ability to pair with anyone much like Hayata has. Before Miwa's debut in 2022 WTT Doha, some forum posters commented that Hina/Miwa would be a deadly combination and it's looking like that prediction is going to age nicely (if ever JTTA gives them a chance). Tomokazu commented that his pairing with Hina was like playing Men's doubles in a Mixed Doubles Event. Given that Miwa's playing style has many similarities with that of Tomokazu's, could Hina/Miwa be like playing Men's doubles in a Women's doubles event? (Though the Chinese Women already seem to have started that trend) Ito/Hayata and Nagasaki/Kihara are probably the more sentimental picks for WD given the close relationship between the doubles partners. But, Hirano/Hayata and Kihara/Harimoto may have been more dangerous pairs for the 2023 WTTC. However, who are we to argue with JTTA's logic: "You have to qualify for singles to play doubles in WTTC." Gone are the days where JTTA sent doubles-only pairs like Oshima/Morizono(Runners-up) and Tazoe/Maeda(Best 8) in WTTC 2017.
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I'm really surprised Miu Hirano is not signed up for the WTT Contender Amman (Feb 6-12). I thought I read somewhere that she was going to make a strong effort in 2023 to get her ranking up. She's outside the top 20 so it's not an issue with PDR. She also gets a shot at a Contender title and possibly a weakened Mima Ito.
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Harimoto's summary on losing to Togami. It's been 40 years since the last triple crown for the men.
https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/tabletennis/news/2023/01/027152.html Kihara's. https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/tabletennis/news/2023/01/027150.html Hayata's. Again for completeness sake. https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/tabletennis/news/2023/01/027154.html Togami's. What better way than to have the very person spell it out? https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/tabletennis/news/2023/01/027156.html
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91479&PID=1137290
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http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91479&PID=1136482
International Stats for Paris 2024 Period (2021/8/15-) for those who missed it. |
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"I would like to improve my ability to counteract even when my opponents do more than I expected." - Harimoto.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Interesting to hear what thoughts come to top pro athlete to both push them forward and to take the pressure off. |
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Ito: I think the battle for Paris 2024 points will be decided this year (2022), to be honest.
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10424 |
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I think it's high time the story behind the sacrifice of Miyazaki for the revival of Nippon Takkyu was posted again. Banning of the "prince serve" and "FH steparound" (which Murakami touched on in the links below) were also mentioned.
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=79248&PID=983762&title=how-many-penhold-players-at-wttc-this-year#983762 https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/2019s-winner.19974/post-255949 https://www.ssf.or.jp/ssf_eyes/history/interview/058.html?tab=sStory2
From the request to resign from the national team to becoming the national team manager ―― Did you also work at a bank? Of course. Therefore, I thought that I would continue to live as a banker. ――At that time, you didn't have any thoughts like "let me make Japan stronger"? I didn't think of it that way. At that time, I was the secretary of the Japanese league, so I thought that I would lead the Japanese league in the future, but I didn't have the idea of becoming a member of the Japan national team. ―― Then, what was the story behind being the sacrificial lamb to become the head coach of the Japan national team? At the age of 29, I participated in the Seoul Olympics, the first time table tennis was adopted as an official Olympic sport. The following year, at the WTTC in Dortmund, OGIMURA Ichiro, then president of the ITTF, asked me, "Miyazaki, could you step down from the Japan national team?" Ogimura-san needed a generational change, and wanted to raise MATSUSHITA Koji and SHIBUYA Hiroshi, who were still college students at the time and had not even entered the All-Japan ranking. For that reason, if I got the right to represent, they would never be able to become representatives. Therefore, they wanted me to resign. ――Isn't it unthinkable for Miyazaki-san to go out of his way to step down as representative? No, I replied to Ogimura-san on the spot, "I understand. I will resign." At the time, Japan was no longer able to compete with China, and Japan was entering an era of stagnation. Then, a few hours after I replied, Ogimura-san called me and said, "Matsushita and Shibuya have been decided as representatives, so you should be the men's coach." At that time, I was working as an executive secretary at Wakayama Bank, so I thought I should tell the managing director first that "I had this conversation", whom should reply "isn't that great?", and so I decided to accept it. It was 1989, the year after the Seoul Olympics. ―― From there, you will be involved in the Japanese national team as a staff member. Yes. In 1990, at the request of Ogimura-san, I created a national team. Until then, the athletes who joined the national team as a result of the All-Japan Championships went straight to the WTTC. But then Japan could no longer win. It was decided that we would create a national team and strengthen it properly for a year. So I became the first head coach of the women's national team at the age of 30. For men, ITO Shigeo-san was appointed. ―― So you focused on coaching the national team? However, in 1989, when I was still in the team as a player, the Wakayama Bank team won the Japanese league, but in 1990, when I became the manager of the national team, they fell to the second division. The bank told me to stop coaching and come back as a player, so I quit coaching and rejoined the team. After that, I continued to play until I was 37. Edited by zeio - 03/30/2023 at 4:20pm |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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Ishikawa's related news.
石川佳純 20度目の全日本選手権応援に感謝 13歳の時の写真添え「あ�£という間だ~と思うような」 https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2023/01/30/kiji/20230130s00026000551000c.html 石川佳純は3位 今後も「自分の卓球への姿勢は崩さずに、全力で取り組みたい」…卓球全日本 https://hochi.news/articles/20230129-OHT1T51055.html?page=1 「諦めない気持ちで戦いました」石川佳純、宿敵・加藤美優を下す! https://world-tt.com/blog/news/archives/62556 石川佳純 崖�£ぷちからの劇的逆転勝利に「今日は自分を褒めてもいいと思�£ています」 https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/tabletennis/news/2023/01/027109.html Ishikawa: "I want to play table tennis as far as I want, and I want you to let me do it." Miyazaki: ![]() |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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Mima having to take painkillers, Miu with her foot issue, and Hina late last year with her injury they really need to be careful not to overtrain. One missed Paris 2024 tournament could be devastating for their chances at grabbing a top 2 spot.
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I respect Ishikawa and think she's still a good player, but by no objective measure is she top 2. She had a decent 1st Paris result where she lost 9-11 in the 7th vs. HH. But that's really the only result that stands out. In the 2nd Paris tourney, she lost 0-4 to Mima Ito. And of course, the infamous 3rd Paris tourney where she lost in R16 to Sakura Mori. Just squeaking by Miyu Kato here and losing 0-4 to HH at this All Japan where she got the Zennoh spokeswoman advantage draw is just not enough. And there's nothing special about her international results either. Squeaking by Bruna and Lily at the ESS Star Contender. And just barely beating Yoon Hyobin (who I think will do great this year and am looking forward to watching) before losing to Chen Szu-Yu in the QF at Contender Tunis. Hard to find positives. I guess she's really, really good at playing defenders (Thank you, Zennoh). My apologies to the many Kasumi fans. Maybe she'll prove me wrong, but this is the reality for now.
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Here, see what Hayata said about Hirano and Ito after getting the bronze medal in WD with Ito back at WTTC 2017. She mentioned about having no table tennis talent and perhaps merely relied on athleticism and how Hirano and Ito changed her.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1rv4y1C7wC?t=709.3 Hayata: "I have caught up a little bit now, but I still want to get a medal in singles. Unlike HiraMiu, I have yet to make my debut. Also, I still haven't caught up to Ito. Through my own strength, I want to get a medal in singles at WTTC 2019...I think it'd be fine as long as I catch up to them in the end. Ito got bronze at the Olympics and Hirano won [at the Women's World Cup]. I keep thinking it'd be great if I can surpass them. I can't lose that attitude." https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Wx411m76S?t=281.9 Hayata's mom had to drive her to the club 40 mins each way https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1oW411T7fV?t=382.6&p=3 Hayata has always been playing catch-up to Hirano and Ito |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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