backhand loop questions

A few days ago i was watching kreanga's instructional video in the backhand loop and it looked quite impressive, he really hits through the ball twisting his shoulder first with a lot of power. when i tried to do it myself (he made it look so easy) the results were disastrous m backhand loop suffered,i kept missing the ball, i reverted to playing with my own style. currently my backhand loop is kind of a weak brush loop which is easily blocked, my coach thinks it's fine and i'll eventually learn to use more power after im consistent enough. i also have trouble re-looping the ball after my opponent blocks the opening loop which i do against a backspin return. my question is should i stick with my current style and perfect it or copy kreanga's style or i could stick with only blocks,pushes and drives from my backhand and do footwork drills that will allow me to use my forehand to attack from any part of the table

The power source is not in the shoulders but begins by twisting/storing and releasing from the hips. It is best if you find someone who knows how to it to demonstrate. Then it is a matter of learning the motion. Once the motion begins it releases through the body with a twisting motion including a quick release up into and including the release. There is always an intention from the moment of release to "create spin".

@asimriz: where in lahore do you play btw?

Most important thing for a b/hand loop is the footwork. F/hand looping is easier because the ball can be hit outside the line of the body and at full stretch with a long arm. To b/hand loop you need to be always behind the ball, so you need the necessary footwork to be able to move either way at random, not an easy thing, but possible with some dedication.

Edited by APW46 - 06/28/2010 at 5:06am

thanks guys but will it be better if i forget the backhand loop for now and use my BH only for punching blocking and loop from my forehand, I've seen a lot of high level players do that

I play in the chenab club, where is the chroma complex?

  Hasham, I think you should learn to loop like Kreanga if you want power in your bh game. I think it's the best offensive bh mid-far distance.  It is very difficult to pull off near the table, the power is pretty close to the fh but if it gets blocked properly you lose the point.  The basic idea of both fh and bh is that the closer to the table you are, the shorter the stroke should be so you can have a very fast recovery. Play big strokes for a winner of if you got extreme linking.
  Therefore for close to table bh looping you can copy Ovtcharov or Jike.  For mid far - Kreanga, Ma Long even though Ma tries to use fh as much as possible.
  I've noticed that there are two starting positions for the wrist for bh looping. You can have the blade somehow at 45 degrees to the floor with it's tip pointing downwards to you or you can have it parallel to the floor again pointing towards you but a bit higher.  The first one can generate serious spin and power, used for lifting underspin or looping far from the table while the second can generate massive spin and is used mostly for counter looping or looping over/close to the table. The second leads to missing the ball a lot of times when looping far from the table.

 

A video of Asim Qureshi/ Bilal Yasin playing at Chromatex.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_kwiXeOZmk&feature=related

richrf wrote: APW46 wrote: Most important thing for a b/hand loop is the footwork. F/hand looping is easier because the ball can be hit outside the line of the body and at full stretch with a long arm. To b/hand loop you need to be always behind the ball, so you need the necessary footwork to be able to move either way at random, not an easy thing, but possible with some dedication. Agreed. Footwork and positioning are fundamental.

APW46 wrote: Most important thing for a b/hand loop is the footwork. F/hand looping is easier because the ball can be hit outside the line of the body and at full stretch with a long arm. To b/hand loop you need to be always behind the ball, so you need the necessary footwork to be able to move either way at random, not an easy thing, but possible with some dedication.

You know, I've been playing seriously (1-2x a week) for about six years I think. And this past year was the first time anyone ever mentioned that to me.

It explains why sometimes my BH topspin sometimes works and sometimes misfires.

The question is, once I get behind it, how do I learn movement for depth so that I am not reaching too far in front of me and losing both power and control?!?