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updated 1/16/2020

Unfortunately the URL expired and given the relatively limited usage, I don't really see a reason to keep it.

URL: shorturl.at/demAD
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2019 was full of health issues for me unfortunately and that took up a lot of time and focus - as a result, I had to stop playing for an extended period of time as well.

I still have the CCA Unlimited but had switched to a W968 with chinese rubbers (basically Ma Long setup) which I enjoyed but now, with a more limited training regiment, I will have to start looking for something more "easy". I'm very curious to try the new Tibhar lineup and I'm very curious to try the MX-K. 

I did try the Dignics05 and liked it a lot (I hated Tenergy05) so I'm curious how the Dignics80 plays. 

I never got around to purchase the Nuytinck and I don't see myself paying full price retail for just a test. So many great blades around now...Stiga Dynasty Carbon is another one I'm interested in.
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Originally posted by h0n1g h0n1g wrote:

Given that most of the links are buried in the original thread started by slevin, I wanted to make a separate post that we can perhaps get pinned so people can continuously contribute.

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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

There is a simple way for us to compare relative blade speed of different forum members' blades. It is based on the correlation between frequency and blade speed.

  1. Download the Advanced Spectrum Analyzer PRO app in Android (by Vuche Labs, it is free)
  2. Open app
  3. Click on the 3 horizontal lines on the top right
  4. Select "Enable Peak Hold"
  5. Hit play
  6. Bounce the ball on the bare blade a few times
  7. Hit pause on the app. Then see frequency with peak amplitude
So far, I see a direct correlation between blade speed and frequency. 

The link to the spreadsheet is shorturl.at/demAD

The Submission Form is here: https://goo.gl/VU3Mp8

UPDATED 2/23/2020

Please contribute your findings as this is the only way how to keep this alive. Thank you!


I am totally confused. I came here looking for finding fast blades but I find something in electronics or physice etc. I am a sociologist and not an electronique enginear & don't know much about frequency  , amplitude, dBm etc shown on some fancy instruments.

How does this exactly translate to blade speed ?  For example, is this the methodology used by top blademakers like Butterfly , Stiga etc ?

Also I went to the website where it says the list was and it gave a page not found error. Is this because I have poor signal reception or am in Singapore (not traveling to Malaysia) area ? Or both ? Or am I being blocked by this forum ? 
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The sheet works fine here, so I guess its an ISP issue towards Google Sheets (where its hosted).

I don't know if blade makers measure frequency. Given Butterfly's recent ratings, they are clearly measuring something.

There's a lot of debate if frequence is an absolutely measure of speed. Based on what can be correlated today, it seems that it is not but more a function of stiffness and bounce tempo. So you shouldn't take this sheet as an absolute but as an additional data point. For example, it's unlikely that you are able to tell a huge difference between a 1350hz blade and a 1375hz blade, however, you will be able to see a clear speed difference between a 1350hz blade and a 1600hz blade. This is all to say that it isn't an exact science, its just another useful tool to make decisions on potential blades to try/buy.
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After thinking a bit, I arrived at the conclusion that nobody should care about that sheet, it has no scientific value since several blades with a high pitch are slow and inversely, a fast blade may have a dull, low frequency sound. When there are so many exceptions to the rule, it's quitting time.

This thread is forum waste and I regret I contributed to it, I just fed a chimeric project.

Let's just stay away from the topic, it is NOT useful and it will be only good at confusing us.

Good bye.



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thanks for contributing, with literally every blade I've tried, there's a pretty strong correlation between frequency, stiffness and speed.

But regardless, as you pointed out, you find it not useful, but please stop making generalized statements and present your opinion as an opinion of others :)
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Originally posted by h0n1g h0n1g wrote:

thanks for contributing, with literally every blade I've tried, there's a pretty strong correlation between frequency, stiffness and speed.

But regardless, as you pointed out, you find it not useful, but please stop making generalized statements and present your opinion as an opinion of others :)

Agreed.

There is especially a strong correlation among sets of blades with similar configurations.

As an example:

  1. Viscaria, TB-ALC, TBS, ZJK-ALC, ZJK-ZLC, ZJK-SZLC, MJ-SZLC, Tibhar Drinkhall Powerspin Carbon, Donic Ovtcharov True Carbon, Carbonado 45 / 145 / 245, Carbonado 90 / 190 / 290, Stiga Dynasty Carbon, Andro Treiber CO OFF, etc
  2. Innerforce  ZLC, Apolonia ZLC, Innerforce ALC, HL5, W968, Donic Waldner WC '89, Donic Ovtcharov No1 Senso, etc
  3. Most all-wood blades (not the ones that are predominantly hinoki)
Keep in mind, that the effect of flex is not incorporated in this test. This tests blade bounciness (HL5 vs Viscaria on counters, at the table), and not flex (HL5 vs Viscaria looping from mid-distance) or power (HL5 vs W968)


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Originally posted by h0n1g h0n1g wrote:

thanks for contributing, with literally every blade I've tried, there's a pretty strong correlation between frequency, stiffness and speed.

But regardless, as you pointed out, you find it not useful, but please stop making generalized statements and present your opinion as an opinion of others :)

Agreed.  You were too polite.
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Originally posted by h0n1g h0n1g wrote:

The sheet works fine here, so I guess its an ISP issue towards Google Sheets (where its hosted).

I don't know if blade makers measure frequency. Given Butterfly's recent ratings, they are clearly measuring something.

There's a lot of debate if frequence is an absolutely measure of speed. Based on what can be correlated today, it seems that it is not but more a function of stiffness and bounce tempo. So you shouldn't take this sheet as an absolute but as an additional data point. For example, it's unlikely that you are able to tell a huge difference between a 1350hz blade and a 1375hz blade, however, you will be able to see a clear speed difference between a 1350hz blade and a 1600hz blade. This is all to say that it isn't an exact science, its just another useful tool to make decisions on potential blades to try/buy.

Donic otcharov senso v1 is listed like~ 1210 and clipper around~ 1300 ,I Have both and sensov1 is noticeable faster
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Originally posted by JackChu JackChu wrote:

Originally posted by h0n1g h0n1g wrote:

Given that most of the links are buried in the original thread started by slevin, I wanted to make a separate post that we can perhaps get pinned so people can continuously contribute.

Here's the original quote
Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

There is a simple way for us to compare relative blade speed of different forum members' blades. It is based on the correlation between frequency and blade speed.

  1. Download the Advanced Spectrum Analyzer PRO app in Android (by Vuche Labs, it is free)
  2. Open app
  3. Click on the 3 horizontal lines on the top right
  4. Select "Enable Peak Hold"
  5. Hit play
  6. Bounce the ball on the bare blade a few times
  7. Hit pause on the app. Then see frequency with peak amplitude
So far, I see a direct correlation between blade speed and frequency. 

The link to the spreadsheet is shorturl.at/demAD

The Submission Form is here: https://goo.gl/VU3Mp8

UPDATED 2/23/2020

Please contribute your findings as this is the only way how to keep this alive. Thank you!


I am totally confused. I came here looking for finding fast blades but I find something in electronics or physice etc. I am a sociologist and not an electronique enginear & don't know much about frequency  , amplitude, dBm etc shown on some fancy instruments.

How does this exactly translate to blade speed ?  For example, is this the methodology used by top blademakers like Butterfly , Stiga etc ?

Also I went to the website where it says the list was and it gave a page not found error. Is this because I have poor signal reception or am in Singapore (not traveling to Malaysia) area ? Or both ? Or am I being blocked by this forum ? 

Buy a blade with a very high frequency, like > 1700.  It will be fast.
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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by h0n1g h0n1g wrote:

The sheet works fine here, so I guess its an ISP issue towards Google Sheets (where its hosted).

I don't know if blade makers measure frequency. Given Butterfly's recent ratings, they are clearly measuring something.

There's a lot of debate if frequence is an absolutely measure of speed. Based on what can be correlated today, it seems that it is not but more a function of stiffness and bounce tempo. So you shouldn't take this sheet as an absolute but as an additional data point. For example, it's unlikely that you are able to tell a huge difference between a 1350hz blade and a 1375hz blade, however, you will be able to see a clear speed difference between a 1350hz blade and a 1600hz blade. This is all to say that it isn't an exact science, its just another useful tool to make decisions on potential blades to try/buy.

Donic otcharov senso v1 is listed like~ 1210 and clipper around~ 1300 ,I Have both and sensov1 is noticeable faster
  weight and other variables play a role.  And it is not just speed but speed relative to feeling. 
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Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

After thinking a bit, I arrived at the conclusion that nobody should care about that sheet, it has no scientific value since several blades with a high pitch are slow and inversely, a fast blade may have a dull, low frequency sound. When there are so many exceptions to the rule, it's quitting time.

This thread is forum waste and I regret I contributed to it, I just fed a chimeric project.

Let's just stay away from the topic, it is NOT useful and it will be only good at confusing us.

Good bye.


SRSLY stilltt, WTH are you talking about?  If I have tried a blade that is say 1500, and it was way too fast for me, then I know I don't need to buy/try any blades 1500 or higher.

When I was shopping for a new blade I used the sheet to choose the range of blades that might suit me.  It helped a lot.  And even now when I feel that ej urge, I check the sheet and most of the time realize the shiny new blade is not for me.

It's saved me a lot of money thanks to all the people like you who took their free time to contribute data, so thanks!  
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There are too many exceptions to the rules, the uncertainty is high enough to me to stay away, this is is the air headed endeavor of wannabe specialists pretending to sort things out when they just mix things up.
When the testing is reduced to within a given composition it might be less biased but the results would be so expected the test would be useless as well.
Stiff/Flexible, Hard/Soft, Thick/Thin (plies and blade) can’t be reduced to a pitch that will describe the behavior of a blade and for one blade where it works, how many where it doesn’t?
What a waste of time!



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Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

There are too many exceptions to the rules, the uncertainty is high enough to me to stay away, this is is the air headed endeavor of wannabe specialists pretending to sort things out when they just mix things up.
When the testing is reduced to within a given composition it might be less biased but the results would be so expected the test would be useless as well.
Stiff/Flexible, Hard/Soft, Thick/Thin (plies and blade) can’t be reduced to a pitch that will describe the behavior of a blade and for one blade where it works, how many where it doesn’t?
What a waste of time!


Sometimes it is better to be helpful than to be correct.  The information is helpful.  What you extrapolate from it is up to you.

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I also feel the blade pitch frequency is a reliable indicator of blade speed. With all my blades I do the test, and so far it is all been true that a higher frequency does correlate to faster speeds.

In fact, I haven't contributed to the spreadsheet in a while because I don't remember which one's I've already submitted, not wanting to have duplicate entries.
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Blade frequency is far from everything. But it is the only objective and reproducible measurement that we can make right now.

I would love to see this sheet expanded to include dimensions, sample thickness (VERY VERY important), and composition (takes a more experienced EJ to make sense, but knowing the relative hardness and stiffness between plies can give an idea of how it would feel).
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by h0n1g h0n1g wrote:

The sheet works fine here, so I guess its an ISP issue towards Google Sheets (where its hosted).

I don't know if blade makers measure frequency. Given Butterfly's recent ratings, they are clearly measuring something.

There's a lot of debate if frequence is an absolutely measure of speed. Based on what can be correlated today, it seems that it is not but more a function of stiffness and bounce tempo. So you shouldn't take this sheet as an absolute but as an additional data point. For example, it's unlikely that you are able to tell a huge difference between a 1350hz blade and a 1375hz blade, however, you will be able to see a clear speed difference between a 1350hz blade and a 1600hz blade. This is all to say that it isn't an exact science, its just another useful tool to make decisions on potential blades to try/buy.

Donic otcharov senso v1 is listed like~ 1210 and clipper around~ 1300 ,I Have both and sensov1 is noticeable faster
  weight and other variables play a role.  And it is not just speed but speed relative to feeling. 

Well both are the same weight. What could be the other factors?
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if it’s a single measurement and submission, it could also be an error
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His blades could also be aberrant.   He could measure them and ser how they compare.   Not all manufacturers have good quality control standards. 
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updated, November 27th

This old thread has data as well, not sure whether you have incorporated it.

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Originally posted by h0n1g h0n1g wrote:

updated, November 27th

This old thread has data as well, not sure whether you have incorporated it.


Yes, arg0 sent me a ton of data early on when it put the sheet together. Not sure if every single one is captured but most of it
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