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cole_ely 
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it's illegal anyway...might as well make your own with things like heptane, hexane, naptha, or the original tire patch glues and yes it will be way better than any booster could ever be
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https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=organic+glue+table+tennis
Those "classic" solid sponges with open cells structure will react to the speed gluing much better than those modern materials with large pores of today"s. -- Some relevant samples to try Hurricane 2, 729 FX, Mark V original. |
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Yes I do. Buy 1000ml bottle to save shipping cost.
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There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
Falco is not a booster |
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chop4ever
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Actually, search for any rubber cement on Ebay or Amazon, they are old school speed glue. They are the most powerful speed glue. However, they will leave a thick layer of glue every application time. Haifu Dolphin and Whale are also sold on Ebay and Amazon. They have advanced tuning property without building up excessive thick layers of glue. However, they are incomparable to BTY Minellium Chack, the best speed glue of all time. As a defender, I would love to play against booster or speed glue players. They are easier to defeat than the normal equipment players. |
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There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
Falco is not a booster |
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cole_ely
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Posted: 03/09/2023 at 2:30pm |
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you're right they've cut most of the voc's out, but you can still get plenty of effect with regular rubber cement
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to Loop495 Yes, I use short pips for chopping and I can chop by inverted rubber. I can counter-attack with inverted rubber by both wings. Before speed glue era, I used this one: https://shopee.sg/Multi-Purpose-adhesive-yellow-dragon-glue-y66-5-Lang-i.483069470.8675905929 I mixed with its thinner solvent to make glue.
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Falco is not a booster |
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HEXANE THE KING OF SOLVENTS.
Using organic solvent of pure hexane fluid is the best answer to enhance rubber performance greatly. Yes, hexane fluid makes wonders with the old type sponge. Be happy. Edited by igorponger - 03/11/2023 at 12:07pm |
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https://www.racket-outlet.de/tischtennis/vulkan-repeat-tischtenniskleber.html
This one might work?old day speed glue?
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This one is the best but from taiwan cant ship to canada
any one can help to buy>lol |
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Hexane is selling on Ebay and Amazon as 500ml can. by 50/50 mixture with any rubber cement, we can bring back the most powerful speed glue!
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Falco is not a booster |
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Hexane label: Colorless, volatile liquid;
sweet/gasoline odor. Irritating to eyes/skin/respiratory tract. Also
Causes: dizziness, fatigue, muscle weakness, hallucinations. Chronic:
peripheral neuropathy (muscle weakness, motor loss, sensory
disturbances). Flammable.
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Hi,thanks for the information, Can you copy the link and show . thanks
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And an even more complete safety sheet here:
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thanks bro, can you show me on amazon which one to buy? Thanks
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Sorry, no idea. I stopped using it when it was banned a couple of decades ago.
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The most powerful speed glue is tricloroethylene based ones like vulcoflux victoria tiptop
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Random notes: Different generations of rubber respond to different formulated speed glues and boosters. Speed gluing some of the rubbers that came out long after the ban often produces less than ideal results (erratic performance, uneven stretching, etc). The closest that boosters ever got to producing a speed glue effect (outrageous spin, catching ball feeling) was the brief period after the speed glue ban where companies were allowed to make their own VOC free boosters and compatible sponges. Samba NTEC was one such rubber, and boosted, with the celluloid ball, it reproduced more of the speed glue effect than anything else I have ever tried. One consensus is that boosters will often get you more speed, but not the outrageous spin and catch-release feeling of speed glue. Some sponges (DHS neo blue sponges for example) like Haifu stuff like Seamon Some sponges (Tibhar Evolution series, which smell like TRF booster out of the package) pair nicely with TRF booster Some sponges seem to play nice with Falco Tempo Long (generally, rubbers that are a touch too slow, but do a good job on other metrics). Speaking of boosters, has anyone tried Falco Platinum? Which sponges does it like? p.s. In retrospect, I am glad that the VOC ban went through.Edited by icontek - 03/22/2023 at 10:55am |
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Most 3rd generation of Tensor sponges don't like any booster at all: Donic Coppa (all series, 3rd generation) Tibhar 1Q and 5Q Not sure what built in inside the sponge, the glue is always loosen even boosted once. Overall, booster is more advanced than speed glue in term of smell, toxicity, consistency, legality. Current trend is hard porous sponges (likes Dignic) which have more tuning effects by thin booster. The thin booster could be absorbed directly and quickly to the pores, kick up the performance consistently during a week, enough for any tournament without caring for the rubber.
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Falco is not a booster |
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Limonene based glued were banned because it was bad for tt companies.
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I didn't like those dlime early boosters anyway. Of course I dont like any booster except the hard stuff
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The mixture of D-Lim and glue work well together while the other booster couldn't be mixed to VOC glue. It is similar to the Super Long Chack.
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Actually, D-Lime is far more better than any Falco "booster". The worst experiment I had made was to mix D-lime to Falco Long. Applying that mixture had destroyed 3 sheets of H3 by loosening the glue between topsheet and sponge.
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hey mate how do I get in contact with you
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got my hands on speed glue from TT11 just for the hell of trying it. Initially tried it on Globe 999. Didn't have a lot of playing time with it. It is way faster than with booster but its effect might not be greater than what it done on a Battle II BS. I have a sheet of Donic Coppa and various variants of the h2/3 , skyline 3. What should I try next (including other rubbers) , to get the obvious speed benefit with the crazy spin that the speed glue is supposed to enable. Or am I wasting my time?
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