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    Posted: 08/26/2012 at 2:23pm
Does anyone have a pdf file for the japanese-version 2007 or 2008 Butterfly catalog? I was interested in seeing the blade comparison table for some of the Butterfly blades that were not sold in North American from that era.

I notice that the 2003/2004 japanese catalogs are available from the www.iruiru.com website, and the 2010-2012 versions are on www.ta-q.jp, but I have not been able to locate one from in between these two time periods.

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I don't have the full catalogs, but I've saved those images, maybe they can be useful:

Old graph (pre-2008):


This I downloaded in 2008, so it may be from those years:


This is a newer table, probably 2010:

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What a load of crap! According to that chart TBS&Maze feel more controlable than Jonyer Hinoki:-P

Viscaria feels slower than TBS?? Come on!!
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Thanks arg0! This is what I was looking for.

Yeah, it doesn't make sense to me when manufacturers use control as one of the measurement fields (like the 2008 chart). The 'soft vs hard' field (in the older and newer charts) seems more understandable.

I had read that the TBS was very similar to the Viscaria in construction (almost identical), and had similar properties. Is this not the case?
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Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

What a load of crap! According to that chart TBS&Maze feel more controlable than Jonyer Hinoki:-P

Viscaria feels slower than TBS?? Come on!!

nobody that has experience can trust in bty charts ,they are designed to make you buy the pricier wood ,, their ratings are way unaccurate
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

What a load of crap! According to that chart TBS&Maze feel more controlable than Jonyer Hinoki:-P

Viscaria feels slower than TBS?? Come on!!

nobody that has experience can trust in bty charts ,they are designed to make you buy the pricier wood ,, their ratings are way unaccurate

Yes, you´re right. In fact i never have trusted them, it already was a bunch of lies may years ago...


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Anyone have the 2003-2004 Butterfly catalog? Looks like it's not on iruiru anymore. 
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Actually, these charts contradict themselves.  One has Viscaria faster than TBS, another has it the other way around.  In reality, it entirely depends on which one of either you get.
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Actually, these charts contradict themselves.  One has Viscaria faster than TBS, another has it the other way around.  In reality, it entirely depends on which one of either you get.

I thought I noticed a similar contradiction recently between Timo Boll ZLF and Innerforce ZLF... or something like that
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donic's blade chart seems more realistic

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