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Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Originally posted by Tt Gold Tt Gold wrote:

There are huge differences though. Chinese players make millions. Even boll makes a good fortune. But I don't think players like samsonov earn a lot. Even ovtcharov was complaining about the situation a while ago.

That. Back in 2010, Boll was said to have an annual income of €400,000. In second place was Samsonov but only made 1/3 of it. For the rest, you get the idea.

Boll is the ONLY ONE in Europe who can compare with what they make in China now.


this puts timo closer to a million/year

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31442&title=how-much-do-table-tennis-players-make

https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/36403/umfrage/deutsche-topverdiener-sport-2008/

That number probably includes sponsorships and prize money, which can vary a lot year by year. In 2007, a German journalist(probably Sabine Töpperwien) shared with a Chinese journalist that Boll made €400,000 from league play alone and was the highest grossing player in Europe. Aside from Boll, Suss and Rosskopf were the only players on the German team who could make a living from playing TT alone.

Edited by zeio - 01/11/2019 at 10:57am
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Originally posted by Tt Gold Tt Gold wrote:

Originally posted by pgpg pgpg wrote:

Originally posted by Tt Gold Tt Gold wrote:

I disagree with the top 250 thing though. I know even in lower leagues you can get some money for playing. I know guys that get 65€ per league encounter( not each single match, but the whole match in general). He also gets one blade and 8 tenergys per season.


That's obviously not enough to live on - TT is part-time job for these folks?

Of course not. But that's not the point. Not even a part time job for them. Just hobby players.



they can give lessons and make much more money from coaching
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I'd say if you really hustle and look for the right opportunities to give well payed private lessons, you can make a small fortune.
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so what is calderano really using?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ittfworld/45865275185/
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loooks like xiom's mild red topsheet
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Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

so what is calderano really using?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ittfworld/45865275185/

The blade handle still looks like the Foco.  Red sheet looks like black sponge.  Black sheet - hard to say, not a great pic for sponge colour.  There's a bit on the black sheet's sponge that looks white, but I think that's just bad lighting.

Xiom posted a pic on their facebook page which suggests he's using Omega 7 Pro and Omega 7 Tour.  But at this stage anything is possible.
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Here's a pic from mixed doubles, Qualifying day 2, where you can see that both sponges are black:

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looks like he also changed the blade.
here's his old blade

https://pingsunday.com/what-is-hugo-calderanos-equipment/
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1st round:
Calderano FH Thumbs UpSmile
Calderano BH Thumbs DownUnhappy

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Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

looks like he also changed the blade.
here's his old blade

https://pingsunday.com/what-is-hugo-calderanos-equipment/

The handle still looks like the grey with white stripe of the Foco to me?

I expect Xiom will be working on a blade for him at the moment.
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I am not sure but I think Calderano use OSP Palatinus Ultimate with Foco handle last year.
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Originally posted by Roni Roni wrote:

I am not sure but I think Calderano use OSP Palatinus Ultimate with Foco handle last year.

Nope, he used custom Foco.
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

looks like he also changed the blade.
here's his old blade

https://pingsunday.com/what-is-hugo-calderanos-equipment/

The handle still looks like the grey with white stripe of the Foco to me?

I expect Xiom will be working on a blade for him at the moment.

in this pic the thick dark center layer is gone.


Edited by pingpungpeng - 01/18/2019 at 7:07am
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Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

looks like he also changed the blade.
here's his old blade

https://pingsunday.com/what-is-hugo-calderanos-equipment/

The handle still looks like the grey with white stripe of the Foco to me?

I expect Xiom will be working on a blade for him at the moment.

in this pic the thick dark center layer is gone.


The dark red center ply might be gone, but instead Bruna appeared. A very decent substitution Wink
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Originally posted by Roni Roni wrote:

1st round:
Calderano FH Thumbs UpSmile
Calderano BH Thumbs DownUnhappy

What's wrong with his BH? Looked same as always to me.
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LOL Calderano vs FZD BH with 100% power and no mistakes.
      Calderano 1st round match BH - after so many mistakes he starts to use 70% power and still makes the errors but less then before.
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is it possible that calderano is using the real calderano foco off+ now?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ittfworld/32915161118
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When I found out that Hugo is moving, I rushed to buy me a second FOCO Off+. To my grieve disappointment all the shops I knew have sold it out, or it was withdrawn . Luckily I found a German shop called tischtennis.biz( impeccable communication and service) who had in stock the requested weight. Love this blade. For quite some time I haven't been impressed by a wooden blade.
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His blade clearly has the dark, thin centre play against Chuqin. Still his old blade as far as I can see. That pic from the doubles now seems a bit odd...
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His forehand drive was very poor with his new Xiom Tour runbbers. His opponent easily counter hit it. Topsheet is to soft.
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Originally posted by jobaumi jobaumi wrote:

His forehand drive was very poor with his new Xiom Tour runbbers. His opponent easily counter hit it. Topsheet is to soft.

I think it's very difficult to watch any professional play and pin an element of their performance on their equipment.  There are so many other possible factors at play (dip in form, had a cold, opponent did particularly well).  Plus, the level the pros play at is so different to amateurs that what we assume based on our own limited experience may be far different to the reality.  So it's possible, but I'm not so sure myself.
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

His blade clearly has the dark, thin centre play against Chuqin. Still his old blade as far as I can see. That pic from the doubles now seems a bit odd...

dark center ply is back!
the other one is maybe for when he's playing for fun.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ittfworld/39837943603/


Edited by pingpungpeng - 01/19/2019 at 3:56pm
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Xiom said they did not rush or forced Hugo to change to a Xiom blade.
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it seems to me his loops have higher arc then it was before
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by jobaumi jobaumi wrote:

His forehand drive was very poor with his new Xiom Tour runbbers. His opponent easily counter hit it. Topsheet is to soft.

I think it's very difficult to watch any professional play and pin an element of their performance on their equipment.  There are so many other possible factors at play (dip in form, had a cold, opponent did particularly well).  Plus, the level the pros play at is so different to amateurs that what we assume based on our own limited experience may be far different to the reality.  So it's possible, but I'm not so sure myself.

Hi,

In the first video available match I watched of his after switching to XIOM, I made the same comment as jobaum has made; his offensive standard of shot was lower than with Cornilleau.  Yes, just a personal impression on my part, however I've used his Cornilleau racket - blade and rubbers (unboosted) - prior to switching to Tenergy (05R on backhand and 05Hard on forehand) (on the Cornilleau Off+ and Off-) and there was a definite drop in power in the racket.  This I am sure of.  That experience caused me to wonder about Calderano's switch to XIOM and what this might mean to him.

Those Cornilleau Target rubbers are first class in performance.  I can certainly understand how they contributed to Calderano's success, for they deliver in the hands of the skilled.

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Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

When I found out that Hugo is moving, I rushed to buy me a second FOCO Off+. To my grieve disappointment all the shops I knew have sold it out, or it was withdrawn . Luckily I found a German shop called tischtennis.biz( impeccable communication and service) who had in stock the requested weight. Love this blade. For quite some time I haven't been impressed by a wooden blade.

Sadly, they do not ship to the USA.

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I think the calderano foco shares same composition as the andro csv series.

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Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

When I found out that Hugo is moving, I rushed to buy me a second FOCO Off+. To my grieve disappointment all the shops I knew have sold it out, or it was withdrawn . Luckily I found a German shop called tischtennis.biz( impeccable communication and service) who had in stock the requested weight. Love this blade. For quite some time I haven't been impressed by a wooden blade.


Sadly, they do not ship to the USA.

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On the other hand the Belgian https://shop-ping.be/en/ wrote to me that there were plenty of blades produced and they could order for me if I like. I didn't ask them cause meanwhile had already found the German shop which had what I wanted, even cheaper.
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Both Calderano and Gauzy used the Cornilleau Absolum in 2017. Handles may have changed, but I'm guessing Calderano is still using that blade.
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