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    Posted: 08/02/2016 at 2:17am
CCY was recently interviewed by Taiwanese newspaper United Daily News.


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可以讓它再更好
Something could've been done to make it better
我只差一步而已
All I needed was that one step
就差那麼一點
Just that little bit
放棄有點太可惜
It'd be a shame to give up
(但)打到那步時候你又會覺得說
Yet, when reaching that point you'd feel
又差一步了 你懂嗎
Missing that one step again, you know?
這樣有時候是好有時候是不好的
This could be good sometimes but bad other times
有時候還是要滿足
Sometimes you gotta be pleased
但是有時候你又不能真的滿足
But other times you just really can't get satisfied
就還是要處在一個
It's like being stuck
矛盾當中
in contradiction
(但)又不可能是永遠保持在這邊
Yet you can't remain there forever
就是很難
Which is so difficult
之前可能還有想說還有之後
In the past, he might think there was always next time
現在他不會去這樣想
Now he won't
他可能每一次都當作是最後一次打
He probably treats every match as the last match
如果籤不要碰到馬龍的話
If the draw keeps me away from ML
我感覺都可以打
I feel like I've got a chance
現在張繼科(敦奧金牌)的狀態這樣
Now that ZJK is in such shape
我感覺也能打
I feel like I can make it
就是搞不好他
The thing I fear is
我還沒遇到他
Before I run into him
他搞不好也就掛
He could've lost already
信念上還是會想要去戰勝他們
Faith-wise, I still want to beat them
現在會這樣子去想
I still think that way right now
但還是會覺得說就是
But still I feel
要去努力
The need to give it everything
要去敢戰勝他們
To have the guts to beat them
打球打到後面
Playing is in the end
感覺還是一個
All about
個性的問題
Characters
自己還是會想得比較多
I would still give it too much thought
比較複雜
Much complicated
想了4 5種方法
I can come up with four to five ways
然後有些人可能就1 2種
When someone else is just one or two
所以在往往關鍵的時候
So when the moment comes
自己就顯得比較沒有那麼果斷
It would appear I'm less decisive
第2場是關鍵
The second match is the key
就(會碰到)中游水平
Where you meet the mid-level players
中上他有衝擊力 能衝上面
Those are full of momentum capable of moving up
某些方面就是
Other than that
只能盡力去做 然後就
All one can do is give it your all and
聽天命
Leave it up to fate
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Nice. Thank you Mr. Zeio. Find me some recent interview with ZJK.
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From zeio's post (interview of CCY):

Before I run into him.  (I: CCY.   him: ZJK)
He could've lost already.
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That has some truth to it, as ZJK lost to half a dozen foreign (non-CNT) players in the past 2 years.
Also there are players who took ZJK to the 7th game before losing to him (like Samsonov).
Dima, CCY, Samsonov, and a few others would love to be drawn into the bottom half.

Drawing will be tomorrow (8-3-16).
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VTC said: "Find me some recent interview with ZJK."
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More telling than an interview is the actual matches after the conclusion of the close-door training for Olympics.

Check out those match results (in another thread) for ZJK against Wang Chuqin, Ma Te and Hao Shuai.





Edited by skip3119 - 08/02/2016 at 11:50am
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skip3r, you are living in a cave, and to me it is surprising that after all those years you are still not aware of it. You talk like... you don't know that you are inside a cave. 

The draw doesn't matter. ZJK will be on the final, and he will beat ML in his best shape for history to remember.
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+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Originally posted by Victor_the_cleaner Victor_the_cleaner wrote:

skip3r, you are living in a cave, and to me it is surprising that after all those years you are still not aware of it. You talk like... you don't know that you are inside a cave. 
The draw doesn't matter. ZJK will be on the final, and he will beat ML in his best shape for history to remember.
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Joke of the decade.

(Btw, you already saw ZJK won the 2016 gold medal, 3 or 4 months ago, long before ZJK was even chosen to play singles.  Any forummers here following this matter saw your post long time ago, and repeated many times since.)


Edited by skip3119 - 08/02/2016 at 2:36pm
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Back before Athens Olympics, Waldner had practically dropped off everyone's radar as he kept losing and losing so much and his ranking sank into oblivion.

ZJK met widespread criticism before Paris WTTC.  ML and XX were the favorites.

As such, it is equally dangerous for CCY and company to write ZJK off.

Many players have fallen prey to that multiple times in the past.
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There is no reason to like or dislike a player just because he won or lost some matches.
With that said, here is my assessment:

ML has 95% of chance to win the top half.
ZJK has only 50% of chance to win the bottom half.

There is a player I do like, that is Timo Boll - because of his sportsmanship.
Dima is a stronger player than Timo recently, but I like Timo better.
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Any scientific/mathematical basis behind those numbers?
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It must be Rating Central..

there's nothin else in the cave..


Edited by Victor_the_cleaner - 08/02/2016 at 5:08pm
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CCY's comment shows how bad ZJK has been recently. Maybe only LGL has a tiny confidence in ZJK. OH, and Victor_the_cleaner as well.
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There are 2 possible scenarios that I would be happy with
1. And favorite one is that ma long mentally collapses or loses in any way and then if zjk loses to someone like ovtcharov ccy will win against ovtcharov and if he doesn't meet mizutani in the final he will win the olympics.(Dream)
2.Zjk and ma long meet and zjk wins.For the 3. Place there are many players that I'd like to see ccy because he is one of my favorites.Timo boll because he still didn't get a medal in the olympics, Vladimir samsonov of course because he is still a top player that is old and mizutani because he always gets 4th place in the world cup
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Back before Athens Olympics, Waldner had practically dropped off everyone's radar as he kept losing and losing so much and his ranking sank into oblivion.

ZJK met widespread criticism before Paris WTTC.  ML and XX were the favorites.

As such, it is equally dangerous for CCY and company to write ZJK off.

Many players have fallen prey to that multiple times in the past.

well said.

idiots in 2013 claimed ZJK was a joke and he destroyed everyone without even a peaking performance.
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Agreed. You only need one person to get under your skin to unleash your full potential (as much as it sounds like a plot to an anime).

ZJK lost his spark abit after the grand slam but I think if someone gets to him deep enough he will unleash his inner dragon again. As long as he maintains his health in top shape and recreates the emotional drive he once had, we will see him in game 7 in finals against Ma Long.

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Psychologically, everyone who plays Zhang Jike in Rio will think he has a great chance to make an upset. And that's a powerful thing. Opponents will be pushing him as hard as possible from the first point. ZJK won't get any time to settle down. It'll be pressure all the way. And we know ZJK is a slow starter and often loses the first game anyway; all of which should boost his opponent's belief that an upset may be in the cards.

Against Ma Long, it won't be the same. Opponents won't have as much hope initially, and more likely, they'll be intimidated from the very start. Ma should have an easier ride to the final.
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CCY totally jinxed it for the singles and teams draw.  Star

Edited by zeio - 08/03/2016 at 1:26pm
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ZJK will be eliminated early!

The cloak of invincibilty has long faded.
No one is afraid of him!
Look for Hugo Calderano of Brazil to make
a big upset of several favorites!

Yes, Ma Long is heavily favored.
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Yep CCY with the almost worst draw possible. "first" round Timo Boll then Ma Long. 
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is the draw out? can someone link?
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Altough I realy like the game of ZJK when he is in top form which did not happen too often recently, but Ma Long seems fairly at a better position now. Still..if there is anyone who could beat MA, ZJK is the first in the line. And I have a feeling that for him to discover himself in a position when nothing is coming easy...well, I would love to see him natural again - the fighting dog.
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