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seemed like the two of you had fun anyway.. so bogey.. fancy coming over to Ireland?

you will get to play against a 56 year old chopper. that. gives/beats some of irelands top 10


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Bogeyhunter was way out of my league. I don't really ever get into my game watching those videos. Since I had no chance of winning, Bogeyhunter had mercy on me and started working me out. Great experience, I learned a lot. I definitely gained more from our interaction than he did. He needs to move out to California and I would be the first to hire him as a coach. He gave me some great things to work on.

 I started playing Table Tennis in January 2011 and still consider myself a beginner. I actually never played anyone over 2100 in my life. One thing I noticed is he had a repertoire of shots. He probably can adapt to his opponent really well. Unfortunately I'm a one trick pony and if that trick doesn't work, I'm out of luck.

I agree with TT4me when there is such a separation in abilities it's difficult to tell what you are looking at.
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Bogey, in December where do you plan on visiting in Florida?

I'd love the opportunity to get crushed by the highest rated 1600 player on the forums.


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There was another match vs Fovad Kaseb.  That was much more interesting.

Here is the first.

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Ermm I just got hijacked by my own video !!!!!

tt4me : I know if I posted both matches at the same time the one with toprank will be forgotten and that's why I planned to post "vs Fovad" in 2-3 days. 

decoi : Ireland? No. Some chance for London/Liverpool in 2014. BTW my record vs any kind of LP players is pretty good. Lost twice in last 5 years.

Chopper88 : Yes. Same set up(cheapest ever) for 3 years now.......longest ever too.

gatorling : In Orlando. Maybe 1 day to visit my buddy G.Fraiman. I always play with chopper88 so contact chopper88 if you like to play.

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Originally posted by Toprank Toprank wrote:

Bogeyhunter was way out of my league. I don't really ever get into my game watching those videos. Since I had no chance of winning, Bogeyhunter had mercy on me and started working me out. Great experience, I learned a lot. I definitely gained more from our interaction than he did. He needs to move out to California and I would be the first to hire him as a coach. He gave me some great things to work on.

2200-2400 is way out of the league of most of us.  The only thing that is deceptive about it is that Bogeyhunter uses pips so sometimes, you get a ball to drive and if you pounce on that ball with authority and get lucky, you might look great. But like you said, he doesn't let you show your real game.

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 I started playing Table Tennis in January 2011 and still consider myself a beginner. I actually never played anyone over 2100 in my life. One thing I noticed is he had a repertoire of shots. He probably can adapt to his opponent really well. Unfortunately I'm a one trick pony and if that trick doesn't work, I'm out of luck.

I agree with TT4me when there is such a separation in abilities it's difficult to tell what you are looking at.
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I liked your game.  A lot of good stuff to build on.  If you've never played anyone over 2100 (especially pips players), you should do so more often because your fitness is great - just need to improve the quality of those spin spots.   For the push, you need more forward motion and less downward motion.  For the loop, better timing.


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Originally posted by bogeyhunter bogeyhunter wrote:

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decoi : Ireland? No. Some chance for London/Liverpool in 2014. BTW my record vs any kind of LP players is pretty good. Lost twice in last 5 years.


well i dunno what hes like against pips, but assuming he can give top 10 players in the country a tough time
might be tough for you
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My estimate of Toprank is about 1800.  So Bogey just had a decent upset by beating a player rated 200 points above him.
 
Then again, Bogey is not just a 1600 player, he is the best 1600 player.
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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

My estimate of Toprank is about 1800.  So Bogey just had a decent upset by beating a player rated 200 points above him.
Your estimate is way too high and because the match is so one sided.

Here is another question.  How big a handicap do you think toprank would need to make the match even?  That means toprank would win the match half the time. 
The handicap can be equated to a ratings difference.



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Originally posted by tt4me tt4me wrote:

There was another match vs Fovad Kaseb.  That was much more interesting.



So who won the match? Fovad is a 2200+ player and it looks that he wasn't 100% serious..


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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

My estimate of Toprank is about 1800.  So Bogey just had a decent upset by beating a player rated 200 points above him.
 
Then again, Bogey is not just a 1600 player, he is the best 1600 player.

The joke (which wasn't funny in the first place) has been absolutely murdered and beaten to the ground now...
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Originally posted by dual700 dual700 wrote:

Originally posted by tt4me tt4me wrote:

There was another match vs Fovad Kaseb.  That was much more interesting.



So who won the match? Fovad is a 2200+ player and it looks that he wasn't 100% serious..


Got to bogey's page and find out.  The match is a friendly match and the arena is not chopper friendly so neither was 100% serious.
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lol; and vice versa
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I go to Allen and son's club and I am a chopper and looper. there is enough space to chop for sure. as for Fovad Kaseb who is rated 2240 I must say his rating is way higher than that but he is not practicing much anymore and he doesn't play too hard because he doesn't want to get injured, he needs to be healthy to be able to coach. Fovad Kaseb is the former coach of the Iranian national team and was number one in that country for 18 years, he was also the main coach of Noshad Alamiyan up until 2 years ago.
regarding toprank, I also know him and he is a very good player who is improving very fast with a great style.
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Space at A and S is not bad but to play O2300 like Fovad most choppers need more space.
However, the main problem of the court was space to move left/right.
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Originally posted by bogeyhunter bogeyhunter wrote:

Space at A and S is not bad but to play O2300 like Fovad most choppers need more space.
However, the main problem of the court was space to move left/right.


Exactly. The better the looper, the more space required for defence in all directions, including upwards.
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My last day of this trip :

Have 2-3 hrs to spend from 6-9.

Where's a better place to play for an out-of-towner? between : http://www.latabletennis.com/ and http://www.californiatabletennis.com/
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Just to update my LA trip.

I got a fantastic chance to play with 3 players with LPs. All are over 2100. I lost all 3 matches!
Here 1st set of each one.







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Originally posted by bogeyhunter bogeyhunter wrote:

Just to update my LA trip.
I got a fantastic chance to play with 3 players with LPs. All are over 2100. I lost all 3 matches !
 
You're providing inspiration for a new and old generation of LP users !
 
Those 3 guys have their own LP group with style variation, so they are obviously adept at playing a new pip player.  
 
With yourself given rating of 1569.7 you played over your head to stay with those guys ! 
 
Next time I go to LA, I am going to try my luck at those guys, once with double inverted and once with my LP's, to see how I fare !
 
I got schooled by an old Chinese pro with LP's several years ago for several months. He used every trick, twiddled the paddle behind his back with the ball in air while serving, twiddled paddle after serving and between points, used identical except different color rackets every other game, etc. If you pushed the ball to him he could control hit either corner of the table like he had the ball on a string. He was a penholder.
 


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Bogeyhunter is nowhere near that rating... he uses that as a JOKE...
 
Bogeyhunter is truly Div 1 where he plays...
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Originally posted by BH-Man BH-Man wrote:

Bogeyhunter is nowhere near that rating... he uses that as a JOKE...
 
Bogeyhunter is truly Div 1 where he plays...
 
It shocks me how many people don't know this or aren't able to work it out after watching Bogeyhunter play.
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Let's see now...
 
1600 USATT would put you somewhere in the middle top of Div 4 city here.
 
Bogeyhunter is a Div 1 city top player, likely a candidate for an upgrade to Div 0 (Yes ZERO, meaning he might be too good for Div 1 city)
 
That is at least 3, prolly 4 levels of difference between his true class and his joke rating in his signature.
 
If anyone wants to believe his signature rating (or even BH-man's official ancient USATT rating) they can line up nicely with their pocket books ready to make wagers for lunch, dinner, or their paychecks.
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Originally posted by Pondus Pondus wrote:

2356 USATT Rating
 
I knew his approximate rating. I was just playing along with his rating ruse !
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My turn to go to LA- on a plane in 6 hours. I'm so excited! I can't sleep. 
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Originally posted by beeray1 beeray1 wrote:

My turn to go to LA- on a plane in 6 hours. I'm so excited! I can't sleep. 

Great, I hope to see you at Allen and sons club.
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