Does Popovich’s Grip deserve to be on the list?

… Have you tried with 20 or 30 high power FH shots in a row, from around 1.5m to 2m from the table with say atleast a 2400 level player…

Yes i did 20 or 30 high power fh shots in a row, from around 1.5m to 2m from the table.

I'm sure it doesn't really matter if you're hitting against a player at least a 2400 level to test a grip, or against, for example, a robot.

…Your concept is new and other than your 4min video,…

There are a lot of my videos on youtube besides this 4 minute one.

 If you open my website and click on “youtube videos & contact” there are links to other videos.

…do you have more sample size, or actually using it in a tournament?…

I participated in rating tournaments. At the end of my site there are about 8 photos, with those who took 1st, 2nd and 3rd place in event.

In these pictures you can see me with my racket. You can find out about the venue of these tournaments from my site, which has a link to the site of this club. The site of this club has tournament tables of tournaments in which I participated. Tournament dates are on the photos.

…why would I want to repeat your song?…

I invited you to sing my song so that you would be convinced that if you unclench your fingers in your grip like in mine, then your racket will fly out. And this will mean that my grip is more secure than yours and therefore it is not worth so long to doubt how secure is my grip.

I don't know how else to convince you that my grip is super secure.

about serving

my blade allows to use 3 grips:

1 my grip

2 special grip that shakehanders use.

3 c-pen.

I don't like to serve using my grip. Now about 70% I use the special grip that shakehanders use. About 30% c-pen.

15 years ago you can see in video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9__bBgyq3w&list=PLxG4q-0oQgzoz20vGvvByVKOTFwSzpYXm&index=2

about serves - 9 min 51 sec

…How is the wrist action compared to normal Cpen grip…

100% exactly as with c-pen grip.

…Who is your intended target audience?…

My whole site, blade and grip is about top speed shots like tops and smashes.

I don't have experience to communicate in forums and i'm not sure about my english which started to learn when I was 45.

I will try to be more careful in my answers in the future.

Thanks for letting me know about it.

…So really no point to waste any more time with the same 4.44 min click. Since 4 is death in Chinese, I should of known…

Yesterday was September   4

Are You OK?

I can show my grip only through my website and video.

So, as you have an opinion on my grip then you read my site and watched my videos.

When I see arguments that my grip has limitations, I try to objectively understand these arguments.

When I see a NO response, I look for what arguments led for this NO response.

In your post, there is the only argument that is relevant to my grip:

…as single hits cut around isn't a very impressive demonstration.

I understand your “argument” as follows: Since I (passifid) see that you (Victor) are the only one using your grip, then this is quite enough for me (passifid) to answer not only - ... is ... far from being added to any list ... , but even - …is VERY far from being added to any list…

I want to emphasize that your only “argument” and the conclusion (NO) that you made from this “argument” have ABSOLUTELY no relation to Table Tennis, which means that you did not find a single flaw in my grip!

I like new grips being used.

Please tell us what new grips do you like?

Many of us have been playing with the Shakehand Grip for years, decades and even our whole lives and have never even tried the Penhold Grip.

I really want to get these players interested in one off-table check with the Penhold Grip, so that they (may be) will then have a strong desire to test the Penhold Grip at the table.

The ultimate goal is to check it out for yourself (at the table) - does Penhold Grip really provide better control than Shakehand Grip in forehand fast drives and topspins?

For a better understanding what happens to the racquet when doing forehand fast drives and topspins using Penhold Grips at the table, it is useful to do off-table test.

To avoid confusion in terms, I use: 

Racket is paddle with rubbers/rubber on it.

Paddle is the entire wooden part of the racket.

Paddle consists of blade and handle. 

In order to better see what is happening with the racket, it is advisable to see the racket in the mirror.

  Off-table test:

1 Take the racket with your fingers at the very tip of the handle so that the racket hangs down almost vertically.

2 Hold the racket in front of you without squeezing your fingers very tightly. The weaker the better, but don’t drop your racket.

3 Relax your wrist as much as possible so that the hand with the racket can hang out at the bottom.

4 Not quickly (so that the racket does not fall to the floor) move your hand with the racket to the left if you are right-hander.

5 While doing this, pay attention to the fact that when you move your hand, the handle moves ahead of the blade.

6 Try to lead your hand faster, paying attention to the fact that the main thing is that the racket does not slip out of your fingers.

7 Note that the faster you move your hand, the more the handle is in front of the blade.

8 Now take the racket with Penhold Grip and do it all over again. Make sure that everything happens with the racket exactly as if you were holding the tip of the handle.

Facts (from our gaming experience):

1 The faster we hit, the farther the ball flies.

2 The faster we hit, the more we have to cover (let's call it necessary covering) the racket so that the ball does not fly off the table.

Facts from this test (with a sufficiently relaxed hand):

3 When the hand moves, the blade lags behind the handle (inertial lag)

4 The faster the hand moves, the more the blade lags behind the handle.

Conclusion from point 3 = when the hand moves, the racket closes (inertial closing), that is, the angle of attack of the racket decreases.

Conclusion from point 4 = the faster the hand moves, the more the racket closes and the smaller the angle of attack of the racket.

We know very well from our experience that the faster we hit, the more we need to close the racket.

Now let's try to put these 4 facts in one pile using only one assumption - (the inertial lag of the blade from the handle) is equal to (the necessary closing so that the ball does not fly further than before the increase in impact speed).

Conclusion: the faster we accelerate the hand, the racket “ITSELF” (inertially) accordingly reduces the angle of attack and the ball does not fly further than it flew before increasing speed.

If the assumption is fulfilled - (inertial lag) is equal to (necessary closing), then we can very significantly, relax the hand compared to the Shakehand Grip. By very relaxing the hand, we delegate the choice of the desired angle of attack to INERTIA.

In my experience, if the racquet is heavy enough, then there is a good chance that the assumption - (inertial lag) equals (necessary closing) will be met. I really get feeling that the racket plays “by itself”.

I call this ability of the racket itself to set the desired angle of attack when playing with the Penhold Grip - the Penhold Compensatory Effect.

If you have not found a single error in my theory, then I hope that you will check it at your next training at table, even if the tournament is coming soon. 5 - 10 minutes of forehand play with the Penhold Grip will not enough time to ruin your Shakehand Grip technique.

An important point - when playing forehand fast drives and topspins with the Penhold Grip, you need to hold your racket higher by 6 - 8 inches (15 - 20 centimeters) than with the Shakehand Grip, since the Penhold Grip has a lower center of gravity than the Shakehand Grip.

If you don't keep your racket higher, you will often hit the ball off the table.

I have already redesigned my site. My site turned out to be more than 3 times shorter.

Please visit my site again.

I will be glad to get advices from you.

Comparison of PopG vs Shakehand Grip:

PopG looks more like a handshake than Shakehand Grip.

This is due to the fact that when shaking hands, the index finger is bent (like PopG), while the Shakehand Grip has a straight index finger.

As for the significant differences between PopG and Shakehand Grip, The Compensatory Effect works with PopG, but not with Shakehand Grip.

Comparison of PopG vs Penhold Grip:

Outwardly, PopG differs from Penhold Grip in that the blade of PopG is directed forward, while that of Penhold Grip is backward.

But essentially they are the same - both have blades pointing down and both with the natural position of the hand, the center of gravity of the racket is lower than the continuation of the forearm.

Those. With PopG The Compensatory Effect works just as well as with Penhold Grip.

By the way, using my racket and PopG you can play (very naturally) using Penhold Grip or RPG!

Given that PopG allows you to hold the racket more relaxed than with Shakehand or Penhold Grips (which I already reported), and also that The Compensatory Effect works for Penhold Grip & PopG, the efficiency of forehand fast drives and topspins in PopG is as high as in Penhold Grip.

Please watch my videos on the links below where you can see my racquet and grip in action.

Wood of blade, rubbers, my age and technique were nothing special.

I'm sure if I had filmed my forehand fast drives and topspins using a Penhold or Shakehand Grip then my hitting would not have been more effective than with PopG.

And if someone says that I performed these strokes against weak players, then I suggest that you look at my attacking strokes in my matches.

There are 29 of my matches on youtube now. I was not too lazy and counted how many of them I played against weaker opponents.

And it turned out that such videos where I play against weaker players - ZIRO.

In most of these 29 matches, players are 200 to 300 higher than me in rating. Out of those 29 matches, I won 11.

Links:

Table Tennis Grip of Victor Popovich Main Video. from 3min 27sec to 8min 30sec.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9__bBgyq3w

My Parallel Penhold Grip (Video 1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vloFsiBtqZA&list=PLxG4q-0oQgzobpBI0b5OuaGjupU966cW6&index=38&t=7s

My Parallel Penhold Grip (Video 3)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz5H7Q52c2Y&list=PLxG4q-0oQgzobpBI0b5OuaGjupU966cW6&index=40

My Parallel Penhold Grip (Video 7)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geIhVdgZvTY&list=PLxG4q-0oQgzobpBI0b5OuaGjupU966cW6&index=44

Table Tennis Grip of Victor Popovich (Forehand 1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yMdgxgRI3k&list=PLxG4q-0oQgzobpBI0b5OuaGjupU966cW6&index=46

This is a link to all 29 matches: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxG4q-0oQgzrMzc38gvOToHLW5Q7CgwR8

Thank you

This post is not for you. You won’t understand anything in it, of course if in this post everything that I typed … are reasonable…

If you are still waiting for my answers, then I think that you are not worthy of them (IMHO).

I won't contact you at all (never).

Moderators, this is for you:

English is not my native language, so I don't have enough English to listen and understand …TV shows…

So I'm out of ignorance  …Kathy Griffin's TV show in USA called My life on the D List…

So I can not to appreciate the degree of idiocy of the comparison:

…Anyway your post reminds me of Kathy Griffin's TV show in USA called My life on the D List… 

But even my English is enough to appreciate the unprovoked:

…I am not hating on you but I think my questions are reasonable…

But if I (or someone else) think that some of the questions of new Beginner are not reasonable, then this means that this new Beginner hates me!!!

This POST has been read (including you) for 48+ (24 x 2) hours.

You in this post did not notice what I noticed?

I don't want to mention the user name of the one who put this hatred in the POST, so I will call this forum member - the specialist of TV Shows.

For example, the TV Shows specialist asks: …2. How many blades have you sold ?…

I am sure that this question is not reasonable because this is not the business of the TV Shows specialist.

The POST was the 4th post from the TV Shows specialist on the forum.

To express unprovoked hatred in the 4th POST in the MyTableTennis.NET, which is read all over the world???

I don't believe you haven't read it.

I thought if I take the time to give my detailed answers to the TV Shows specialist and then a Moderator deletes the POST, then my post with my detailed answers will also be deleted.

For now I inform you that all my answers are exclusively in my first post and I will have to work hard so that the specialist in TV Shows is my understanding of what is ALREADY printed there.

If within 72 (24 x 3) hours the POST is not deleted and this post of mine is also not deleted, then I will answer in detail all the questions that I was asked in the POST.

In addition, I promise that if the POST and this post of mine, too, will be present in this topic for another 72 hours, then I will apologize to: the TV Shows specialist, forum members, forum guests and Moderators, for the fact that my English is so bad that I in an unprovoked:

…I am not hating on you but I think my questions are reasonable…

saw hatred that wasn't there.