Any opinion about QUAD 480?

Anybody?

I used to play with the Quad 480 (max) on my J.M. Saive OFF blade. The rubber fits Euro style so if you like tacky rubbers, do get this one. The sponge is considered hard but it is softer than other rubbers. If you plan to get this rubber, don't speed glue it.

Sorry, I have not used Mark V and therefore cannot give a good comparison.

I don't think the Q480 is for chopping.  However, the Q450 or the Q420 will give you better feel for chopping.

If you love the Q480, you must give the Plasma 470 a go.

Yes, Tensor rubbers are known for that. It doesn't affect performance.

iakovka wrote: Ok. for interested: After my third experience i can say that generally i like this Rubber. What does it mian generally:    - Control is very very good for the fast rubber like this.  - Fast enough- not one of the most fastest rubbers. but lets say 8 of 10.  - Spin - here we must devide for 2 categories: this rubber is very good for looping. Nice and very stable trajectory. strong spin. But ...very poor performance when you try to chop a ball(even serve). I would give this rubber 9.5 in spin on looping and only 5-6 on choping. I think it happen because when you play chop the sponge is not really plays and and the topsheet itself is not so spinny without the influence of the sponge.   In general - it is a good rubber for looper looper and looper. I think this rubber is not good for combination style of game. Also not for somebody who likes to finish with the stroke and not with spin.   p.s I must mention again that loping is really enjoyable with this rubber. just evry ball lay down to the table

I agree that it has a stable trajectory and is very fast, BUT I have to disagree about it being unsuitable for smashing/punching. I actually use this on the BH and punch very successfully with it, only looping to set up for the punch.
Edit: I used it before my current Plasma 470 to clarify

Gark

The plasma rubbers are the next generation Tensor rubbers.

Actually I think plasmas have lesser 'feel' when impact with the ball. It does not offer as much control as it is harder to 'feel' the ball's contact

iakovka wrote: Are the plasmas dont  have overglueing effect? I mean, somebody said me they feel like 7 layer of glue on it? Are they not too soft(comparing to QUAD 480). I find the QUAD 480 middle soft.(really not hard - that is for sure)

7 layers of glue? I don't think so. You only glue it once. Your friend might have played with the rubbers straight after glueing. My advice is to make sure that you let the glue dry up totally before playing with them.

Yes, I agree. Both the Plasma 470 and the Quad 480 use 'hard' sponges but IMO, the sponge is still softer than other rubbers, say like H2. I too would consider the P470 and Q480 as middle-soft maybe bordering on the hard side.

One of our top players (A-grade) in the club has recently been using the P470. Now he is a 100% devout speed gluer. Why the shift? Because he can not spend the time glueing up before his matches. So he gave the P470 a go and he reckons it is the closest thing to 'speed glued' rubber. Though the performance isn't the same, it is sufficient for him. He'll probably glue up his old rubbers when he gets the chance.

yay i finally got quoted!

my blade is an unknown brand from china called Yuguan. The wood is like a $30 butterfly blade.

I am actually the manager of the butterfly brand in disguise. i hope to promote my tt bats

Thanks gundam.

u dont talk big la, you dont have so much money.

Nice - 20 days - my rubber is done.