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    Posted: 01/27/2008 at 5:12pm

hey guys, i just want to know if what is the difference between the two?

and where can i buy either of the two, i prefer the nittaku avalox.
 
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I beleive there is no difference, there are always those companies that have the same product, like DHS/ Nittaku H3 or H2.
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Nittaku and DHS H3 and H2 are not the same.. They play totally different..
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Well like wht I mean is is when companies share product names like hurricane, or the hurricane blade series.
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Originally posted by PingPangQiu PingPangQiu wrote:

Nittaku and DHS H3 and H2 are not the same.. They play totally different..
How so? Elaborate and grace all those who may be interested in these rubbers or blades with your findings, observations, experiences and etc. etc....
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Originally posted by tiehwen tiehwen wrote:

Originally posted by PingPangQiu PingPangQiu wrote:

Nittaku and DHS H3 and H2 are not the same.. They play totally different..
How so? Elaborate and grace all those who may be interested in these rubbers or blades with your findings, observations, experiences and etc. etc....
Well if you think 2 companies would make an exact clone then I find that strange. The major difference is the softer sponge from Nittaku which allows more powerful shots on a tacky topsheet.
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i dont think two companies makes exact clone of the same item. im pretty sure theres a difference between the two. weight could be? quality? i dont know, but anyone plays either those two blade, kindly please describe your game?
 
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I was told that Nittaku was the distributor for Avalox in Asian market.  The early Avalox products were used by China National Team.  Therefore, if you buy Avalox blades in Asia, you will get it with Nittaku metal tag and marked with N-JTTAA on its handle.  Last year, Nittaku produced Runlox-5, which is claimed as a new version of Avalox P500.   

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GenomicsKnight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/27/2008 at 9:00pm
Originally posted by PingPangQiu PingPangQiu wrote:

Originally posted by tiehwen tiehwen wrote:

Originally posted by PingPangQiu PingPangQiu wrote:

Nittaku and DHS H3 and H2 are not the same.. They play totally different..
How so? Elaborate and grace all those who may be interested in these rubbers or blades with your findings, observations, experiences and etc. etc....
Well if you think 2 companies would make an exact clone then I find that strange. The major difference is the softer sponge from Nittaku which allows more powerful shots on a tacky topsheet.

That's just a boatload of you know what.  "Softer sponge allows more powerful shots on a tacky topsheet."  What???  Where did you come up with that?  What else do you got!
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I have played with both rubbers. the regular nittaku h3 with japanese sponge sucks in my opinion. softer sponge with thick topsheet, it just dosn't feel right. 

on the other hand, Nittaku h3 pro is so far the best H3 i have tried. someone claim that is the real H3 national, i think is believable.  the top sheet on regular h3 start to loose its tackiness after 30 mins or so of play, but tackiness on H3 pro last almost 4 hrs of practice.
 
the sponge on H3 pro is slightly harder than the regular H3, but works very well with speed glue. 
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I am sure it doesn't lose tackiness that fast. But all rubbers slowly become less tacky after time as we all know.
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Originally posted by GenomicsKnight GenomicsKnight wrote:

........That's just a boatload of you know what.  "Softer sponge allows more powerful shots on a tacky topsheet."  What???  Where did you come up with that?  What else do you got!
@GKnight. "Hogwash" is the word u shouldn't be hesitated to use, to be honest. We all know what else or how much he has got. I dun even bother to answer or respond to his so-called 'contributions" period.
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So you think you are the only one who knows everything?
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Originally posted by PingPangQiu PingPangQiu wrote:

So you think you are the only one who knows everything?

Sorry to break it to you.  Actually no one knows everything.  However you pretend you know everything.  In fact you gave out so much inaccurate and down right false information on this forum, you actually start to believe you know everything, don't you?
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What false information?
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possibly,that one fabric in sweden produces very similar looking blades that are just labeled as Nittaku and Avalox.they are really almost identical.

we don't have nittaku like the above pictrured sold in the us,do we?

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I read an article that reported on this. It said that both blades are identical and are both manufactured in Sweden. Nittaku does not actually design the blade, they just distribute Avalox blades in Japan.
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Originally posted by Golden Skans Golden Skans wrote:

I read an article that reported on this. It said that both blades are identical and are both manufactured in Sweden. Nittaku does not actually design the blade, they just distribute Avalox blades in Japan.
see,common practice..
like ford and nissan trucks-look both the same,have same engines/transmissions and some other components,but sold as Ford and Nissan..
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I agree with Golden Skans.  I in fact have the Asian version of Avalox P 500 and BT 555.  Both are sold under the name of Nittaku.  But if you pruchase these in North America or Europe, you will get the Avalox package.

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Golden Skans is right. Both the blades are the same and manufactured in Sweden.
 
If I ve not mistaken, all blades (Japan made or foreign) sold in Japan from the 90s must have JTTAA and in order to obtain this approval, foreign brand manufacturer must tie with one of the Japanase brand and as a result the same Avalox in Japan will be known as Nittaku Avalox.   
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_popupControl(); Echo to Culvch; Stiga is sold by Yasaka in Japan.  So if you buy a Stiga in Japan, you will get something extra - a Yasaka metal tag and a mark of JTTAA on its handle.
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alright, getting clear right here. so i can only find the nittaku avalox label in asian market?
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Hi guys,
is the conclusion, that they are really same product?
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Originally posted by thejnal thejnal wrote:

Hi guys, 
is the conclusion, that they are really same product?

Yes, Nittaku is the🇯🇵version of a certain few Avalox blades. 
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Originally posted by Da Gravedigga Da Gravedigga wrote:

 
Originally posted by thejnal thejnal wrote:

Hi guys, 
is the conclusion, that they are really same product?

Yes, Nittaku is the🇯🇵version of a certain few Avalox blades. 
(13.5 yrs??! Uncommonly Sweet dig, btwThumbs Up👷🏼😈⚰️⛏👍


 Any have tried a recent Avalox non Nittaku blade?


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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Any have tried a recent Avalox non Nittaku blade?

The P900 — while being billed as like a P500 for the new ball, I thought it felt more like a BT550, but on steroids.  


Edited by king_pong - 11/02/2021 at 3:10pm
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