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    Posted: 03/11/2008 at 10:47pm
here are the pictures of the Barna blade  in original condition and original rubbers manufactured by Dunlop in 1950-1960's,
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Was that wat they used back in the day.

Done with penholding...
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You mean the blade belongs to Borko ?
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That looks like a 1960's Barna Original to me.

This is a picture of my 1950's Barna original, which as you can see has a different handle.

The blade plays well with rubbers like 2mm Innova Premium and Sriver L

I'm planning to put 802-40 on it.

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This is a picture of my 3 ply Maxply Fort, with the original rubbers pips out sponge rubbers.

I have another Maxply Fort blade, which I removed the old rubbers from and put on a pair of 2mm LKT XP Pro. The bat weighs 185 grams and plays well.
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***IF YOU OWN THE VINTAGE BLADE SHARE IT'S PICTURES  ON THIS POST***
Hi Peter,
You are most likely correct the blade is probably from the early  60'S.
Attached you will find the Barna 3 pl as well as Barna "SUPER" i got from my Dad when I was kid in 70's both in the very good condition .I still use the Barna "SUPER" when I play the Hard-bat (for the nostalgic reasons). Rubber has been replaced several years ago but the 3 pl like the Original" is in its unchanged condition.

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Originally posted by aeoliah aeoliah wrote:

You mean the blade belongs to Borko ?

YES,Here is the Vintage 3 pl Barna
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Last week i won an Ebay bid on 2 Dunlop Barna Original blades, like those in the top pictures, for 9.14 (approx $18.50), which was lucky, as I expected them to go for a higher price.

The bid ended on Easter sunday and i suspect that is why the collector's who pay the higher prices missed them. 
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This a Barna super blade I had until I gave it a friend's daughter to learn with.

It was fitted with 2mm 729 Lighteining and it played superbly.

In hindsight I wished I'd kept it.
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I want one of these Barnas.  How do these play as hardbats?  Pretty fast?
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Originally posted by Peter C Peter C wrote:




This a Barna super blade I had until I gave it a friend's daughter to learn with.

It was fitted with 2mm 729 Lighteining and it played superbly.

In hindsight I wished I'd kept it.

Peter C:
Peter do you have the picture of the other side of the handle,that looks like the Dunlop Maxply to me.It looks like that that blade is from 70,s.Is this correct?
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No, it's a Dunlop Super.

The Picture below is the Maxply Fort (from ITTF museum page)






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Thanks Peter C, Here is the "Alpha" Made by Dunlop in the original condition.
This is 3 ply blade any info is appreciated.
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I haven't heard of the Alpha.

Here is another old Dunlop, an Allround Dual purpose. quite a slow blade.



The blade has 2.2mm six Shooter forehand and 2.2mm Aces backhand.

I gave it one of our young players at coaching, as their first bat.
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Nice Peter !
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A pair of Barna Hock blades, both of which weigh 156 grams.

When I did a bounce test, I was surprised to find that the speed and bounciness on one side of the blade was faster than the other.

A case of a slower backhand.

I didn't realise Dunlop had produced an asymettrical Barna blade, but it makes sense having a faster forehand and slower more controllable backhand.




And finally a picture of the 3 different Barna's together

Left : 1950's Barna original, with a blade face that is close to the Petr Korbel in size.

Middle : The Barna Maxply fort, with a compact head, which is close to the Tibhar Samsonov Alpha in size.

Right : The hock blade, which has the biggest blade face of the three.

 
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Do you recognize this Dunlop blade? Information on it is welcomed.
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Unfortunately I don't recognise the blade.

It looks like it's a 7 ply blade.

What is the weight? and how does it play?
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It is a 5 ply blade  compact size and well suited for "Live rubber" as well as short pips.
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Hi Does anyone have this blade for sale.
 
Please let me know,
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Originally posted by Peter C Peter C wrote:



A pair of Barna Hock blades, both of which weigh 156 grams.

When I did a bounce test, I was surprised to find that the speed and bounciness on one side of the blade was faster than the other.

A case of a slower backhand.

I didn't realise Dunlop had produced an asymettrical Barna blade, but it makes sense having a faster forehand and slower more controllable backhand.




And finally a picture of the 3 different Barna's together

Left : 1950's Barna original, which a blade face that is close to the Petr Korbel in size.

Middle : The Barna Maxply fort, with a compact head, which is close to the Tibhar Samsonov Alpha in size.

Right : The hock blade, which has the biggest blade face of the three.

 
I have never heard of a Hock Barna blade. Two different companies. I don't believe Mr. Hock ever made blades for the Dunlop company.
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I referred to it as a Hock blade because of the shape of the blade face, i.e. designed to be wider and bigger for defensive play.

We refer to that design of blade as a Hock blade in the UK.
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Originally posted by Peter C Peter C wrote:

I referred to it as a Hock blade because of the shape of the blade face, i.e. designed to be wider and bigger for defensive play.

We refer to that design of blade as a Hock blade in the UK.
I think Hock blades are actually bigger. I have a Dunlop Barna and it is the same exact shape and size as the Butterfly Defense Alpha. But the most famous Hock blade, the 74, is larger.
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http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/uploads/New/20080326_100727_Barnaforehand.jpg

I think Hock blades are actually bigger. I have a Dunlop Barna and it is the same exact shape and size as the Butterfly Defense Alpha. But the most famous Hock blade, the 74, is larger.
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Is your Dunlop Barna, like the one in the link?
If you are selling, I am interested.
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Originally posted by ramspeed ramspeed wrote:

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http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/uploads/New/20080326_100727_Barnaforehand.jpg

I think Hock blades are actually bigger. I have a Dunlop Barna and it is the same exact shape and size as the Butterfly Defense Alpha. But the most famous Hock blade, the 74, is larger.
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Is your Dunlop Barna, like the one in the link?
If you are selling, I am interested.
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No, sorry. The one I have is similar to the one posted by Borko above. The "Vintage Barna" as he refers to it. It has a red teardrop Dunlop label on the handle. The blade is three ply, and wighs 113gr without rubber.
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Nice to see that some classics are still being used, and not just collecting dust in someone's attic. Notice that these (and even the older, 80's Stiga blades) are much more solid than the paperweights sold today. Its yet another case of worsening craftmanship.
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Regarding old Stiga's I have a 1979 Stiga Allround Wood, with Hans Alser handle; in the TT bag and it plays well with 2mm Xtend.

My 1976 Stiga Allround has 2mm 35% Quattro on it and that's being used by a youngster at coaching.

I do recall seeing a 10 year old using a Kjell Jojannson Offensive Wood, earlier this year too.
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http://barnatabletennisbat.blogspot.com/
this link is showing my 3 ply barna bat i own that i found in a charity shop for fifty pence Big%20smile
Its in perfect condition apart from one pip missing.

any ideas on how old it is and how much it is worth?

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