Playing against Penhold Blocker.

Hi I play shake hand.  I loop with FH, and bh I can hit and loop.  However, I have the most trouble with Penholders.  There is one guy who I play, he uses short pips and every time I loop I just get blocked out of place.  It seems like I need more time to do my shots when playing this kind of player.  What are some strategies playing against this type of style?
Thanks! 

i think when playing with a penholder blocker you should practice smashing balls if he is a right handed player just always aim for his backhand because penholders backhand is weaker than their forehand.

there are time I do a slow spinny loop and a medium speed loop.  Maybe I should work on a loop kill after my 3rd ball?  

Hmm..i'd say try not playing his game. If he's a really good blocker and feeds off the pace of your shots, change and vary them. I have a blocker type of player in my club and what i do is chop/topspin/sidepsin to his backhand/mid table and when he pops up a weak one i just smash it. Also, i don't know the blocking level of your opponent, but try adding serious amounts of topspin. If he blocks them easily, u gota play him all over the table.

finish the point as soon as you can

I often play against a C-pen blocker and pusher and I can tell you it's difficult. My strategy is to kill the ball either with smash or hard (vary) spins. Also, see if your opponent's FH block is weak.

You can try very spinny loops, but deeper. Blockers should have an easier time blocking and deflecting your loops if they land mid-distance or shorter on the table. You might be able to pop some up and attack the next ball.

Otherwise try experimenting. You may have to really step it up and aggressively loop drive further to the corners (or even the shorter extremes that are even further off the corners than regular corner shots, if you know what I mean).

Otherwise try the defensive game with pushing and see where that leads. In any case, whenever your opponent's strategy is clearly beating your normal strategy, you have to experiment and try new things.

I was playing a chopper last week who uses anti-spin. My normal low spinny loops weren't working as he was chopping them back fine with no problem. My varied serves weren't tricking him either. I was down 2-0 and knew I had to change my game plan or it's game over. I changed strategies and starting looping more to his FH, on every single ball, stepping around the corner and such. That worked well as he wasn't as consistent with the FH inverted, and I ended up winning 3-2.

Most of those guys I've played seem to feed on your pace. If you give a slow, high, spinny loop you'll get something back you can attack. At least that seems the case around 1600ish. They also seem better in their bh corner. They can go down the line or cross with very little telegraphing.

go to spin more shots to his/her right side

debraj wrote: i find this useful with traditional penhold pip players ... may work for yuo if you are a good looper.   i loop far on his forehand ... making him move a couple of steps. and immediately loop (fh or bh) deep into his backhand.   they usually don't do very well bloacking away from their body on their back hand side.

unless the player has a killer backand away from body when being able to freely move the arm..

I have that problem and the reason I have trouble to deal with the block is I can't get back in position fast enough so I against penholders with short pips or ANY players who blocks well off the bounce I have to loop with my arm closer to my body that way I'll be back ready much faster. If I extend my arm too much then it better be a winner. 

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