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    Posted: 09/04/2008 at 11:06pm
Hi all, can anyone tell me what rubbers are simular to the Inspirit Quattro Ultralight ?
I know it has speed glue affect but i just wanted to know if it compared to any of the more well know brands like Butterfly Donic ect...
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You gotta love the ultra light!
I'm giving up the regular version since I think the ultra light is better allround I think
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You gotta love the ultra light!
I'm giving up the regular version since I think the ultra light is better allround I think!

Would be interesting hearing what rubbers are similar, I think Cole talked about that Joola Mambo is similar....
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The first batch was really thin like mambo, but too many people had problems.  So after that it got thickened up a bit.  The first batch was like 52g uncut.  Now it's like 58-60.  The regular version is around 68-70.
 
Probably it does play better now and it's definitely more durable.  Now instead of thin as mambo, now it's more like a standard euro topsheet...say coppa thickness. For me, I was able to keep the ultra thin working nice, but too many people had problems.  Problems have been virtually non-existant since.
 
So now I would compare it more with coppa (type varies on hardness of sponge).  Spinnier than average euro topsheet.
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I haven't played with my new sheets yet, but I liked the ultra-thin version myself.  Works well on my PhalanxII.   Too bad it's not still available.
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same here, i liked and still use the ultra-thin
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I have just played two practices with Dawei IQ Ultralights on both sides - 2.0 FH, 1.8 BH (got them both from fatt so I am not sure if that is what Cole called an old batch or a new one). What can I say - love it!

First practice was just practice, no matches. But second one was great!

First I was against the guy whom I lost like 9 out of 10 matches we ever played. Result - 3:0 (11:3, 11:4, 11:9) !!!

Then against the guy to whom I lost the last 6 matches we played - both players with ratings between 1950 and 2000. Got a little tired but beat him 3:2 (14:12, 1:11, 8:11, 15:13, 11:6) !!!

After that I was almost dead so I lost to the first guy 2:3 (!) and took a break. Then played another couple of matches which I have won easily.

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Great rubber!!!

I have a newer generation sheet in 40 degrees that has withstood 2 months of heavy abuse and still looks and plays better than new.

Key to long lasting IQ UL is keep it covered and give it an occasional spinmax - it responds well to this treatment.

Why do I say better?  I have found that once you break the IQ UL in it gains a new gear of spin and speed.  It's nice out of the package though.

I haven't tried so many glue effect rubbers but compared to Donic F series and JO Silver for example IQ UL is more well behaved playing short and loops with the same ease.  JO Silver might be a bit faster / spinnier but IQ UL keeps up nicely - actually the added control is better in my case.

40 degree on the backhand is really a great fit.  Rubber is high throw so you have to brush over the ball on backhand loops - took a bit of adjustment for me.

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I wouldn't say that IQUL is a high throw rubber - no comparison to Tenergy at all in that department!

I had very good control on both sides after 5 minutes of practice - and that's right after I glued them on with water-based glue (Tibhar CF) night before. No boosters, no speed-glue, nothing like that.

Catapult effect is noticeable but it is very controllable - which distinguishes IQUL very much from, say, LKT Torrent which tossed the ball sometimes rather unpredictably...

The only thing I was not yet 100% satisfied with, was block on BH - but that is certainly related to a spinnier and fresher rubber. Also, I did not need it as much as I usually do because I attacked much more from my left. That was the difference that allowed me to beat those guys - not only was I more aggressive but I was able to channel that aggression into actual good shots lending on the table with good spin... a little less speed than I expected but that is more my own fault as I am not a very fast hitter. Blocks from FH went in just fine - no difference there from regular IQ I had on the same blade before.

Control in short game was very good, and control in loops was excellent!

One of the greatest advantages is that catapult/spin on the shots I produced caused visibly more complicated bounce and spin on the ball which made my opponents miss more shots or miss the table when hitting.
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how does the IQUL compare to IQ, which one is cosidered "higher throw" rubber..?

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Originally posted by bagung bagung wrote:

how does the IQUL compare to IQ, which one is cosidered "higher throw" rubber..?



I played with regular IQ a lot - also not a high throw rubber. Not a low throw either...
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by bagung bagung wrote:

how does the IQUL compare to IQ, which one is cosidered "higher throw" rubber..?



I played with regular IQ a lot - also not a high throw rubber. Not a low throw either...
 
I think he is asking which throws higher, IQ or IQUL.  My experience is that IQUL is slightly higher throw than IQ, but not that much.  Although that is based on the 1st generation IQUL.  I haven't played with the 2nd generation IQUL yet.
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I would say you are right - IQUL is a bit higher throw because the ball penetrates the rubber just a micron more and therefore is being gripped better by it when it's being thrown out.
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For 35� and the same thickness, IQUL has higher throw than the regular Inspirit and it seems to bottom out more often.  Not sure if IQ comes in other hardness besides 40�.

I am using IQUL as replacement for Sriver L and Mark V.  It is not exactly the same since IQUL has more tack and slower, but close enough for me.
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Originally posted by GenomicsKnight GenomicsKnight wrote:

For 35� and the same thickness, IQUL has higher throw than the regular Inspirit and it seems to bottom out more often.  Not sure if IQ comes in other hardness besides 40�.

I am using IQUL as replacement for Sriver L and Mark V.  It is not exactly the same since IQUL has more tack and slower, but close enough for me.


You do too? Hope to see you using it soon! Quincy Open on Oct 26, perhaps?
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I recently got an IQUL and really like it.  Lighter than the original and love the control.  I like it so much I am willing to trade an "Ultimate Press" for a set  to put on my new V6.  Any takers.?

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21545&PN=1#248467


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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by GenomicsKnight GenomicsKnight wrote:

For 35� and the same thickness, IQUL has higher throw than the regular Inspirit and it seems to bottom out more often.  Not sure if IQ comes in other hardness besides 40�.

I am using IQUL as replacement for Sriver L and Mark V.  It is not exactly the same since IQUL has more tack and slower, but close enough for me.


You do too? Hope to see you using it soon! Quincy Open on Oct 26, perhaps?

I will try.  My wife doesn't let me out for fun Cry
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Originally posted by THEMANFZ1 THEMANFZ1 wrote:

I recently got an IQUL and really like it.  Lighter than the original and love the control.  I like it so much I am willing to trade an "Ultimate Press" for a set  to put on my new V6.  Any takers.?

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21545&PN=1#248467



You got it? Finally!

That's exactly what I am playing with right now - V-6 with two IQULs. Great combo, man, you won't regret this.

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Originally posted by GenomicsKnight GenomicsKnight wrote:

Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by GenomicsKnight GenomicsKnight wrote:

For 35� and the same thickness, IQUL has higher throw than the regular Inspirit and it seems to bottom out more often.  Not sure if IQ comes in other hardness besides 40�.

I am using IQUL as replacement for Sriver L and Mark V.  It is not exactly the same since IQUL has more tack and slower, but close enough for me.


You do too? Hope to see you using it soon! Quincy Open on Oct 26, perhaps?

I will try.  My wife doesn't let me out for fun Cry


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At least you had the courage to ask your wife.  Me, I am just happy that she started to let me go back to the club once a week.  I will definitely try for the upcoming Quincy Open.

Getting back to the central topic here.  What hardness of IQUL are you using?
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by THEMANFZ1 THEMANFZ1 wrote:

I recently got an IQUL and really like it.  Lighter than the original and love the control.  I like it so much I am willing to trade an "Ultimate Press" for a set  to put on my new V6.  Any takers.?

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21545&PN=1#248467



You got it? Finally!

That's exactly what I am playing with right now - V-6 with two IQULs. Great combo, man, you won't regret this.

Don't forget to post your review in the V-6 review thread!


Yeah got another one, this one is 88.8grams instead of the 93grams that my first one was.  Only problem is that I put the only Sheet of IQUL that I had on my MC1 and now that I have a new V6 I want UL's for it, and definitely  need the UL's on the 93gram blade.
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Originally posted by GenomicsKnight GenomicsKnight wrote:

At least you had the courage to ask your wife.  Me, I am just happy that she started to let me go back to the club once a week.  I will definitely try for the upcoming Quincy Open.

Getting back to the central topic here.  What hardness of IQUL are you using?


Regular - 40 degrees.
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by GenomicsKnight GenomicsKnight wrote:

At least you had the courage to ask your wife.  Me, I am just happy that she started to let me go back to the club once a week.  I will definitely try for the upcoming Quincy Open.

Getting back to the central topic here.  What hardness of IQUL are you using?


Regular - 40 degrees.

So far 40� works better than 35� for me.  I wonder how's 40� compared 42�?
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I think I might try and tune IQUL 40 degs a little bit on my secondary blade - just for kicks, to see if it becomes even better...
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I have just played with a new combo - V-6 with IQUL 2.2 SV on FH, IQUL 2.0 Regular on BH (used just a smidgeon of Galaxy Aqua Glue to put them on). Combo is about 5-6 g heavier but I can take it ... I think. I am very happy with FH, no loss of control and attacks are faster and spinnier.

My only problem was with BH - needs some adjustment, bounce of the ball is a bit higher and longer which is to be expected I guess. But again, spin and speed are better so I'd rather keep this combination.

I will play again tomorrow so we'll see how it goes the second time around - I really hope I will get used to it within a week or two, as I have a tourney on Nov 23, and then on to the US Nationals.
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

I think I might try and tune IQUL 40 degs a little bit on my secondary blade - just for kicks, to see if it becomes even better...


I tried tuning a sheet of IQUL SV max and it was crazy. I didn't get to hit with it too much but it was crazy fast. The ball would hardly even stop bouncing if I just dropped it onto the blade flat.
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JimT.....do you favor your FH side? Just wondering as I normally now favor my BH and use softer spong on that side.  Also, I tend to hit harder with FH, so I use same or stiffer spong on it. 
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Originally posted by Rich215 Rich215 wrote:

JimT.....do you favor your FH side? Just wondering as I normally now favor my BH and use softer spong on that side.  Also, I tend to hit harder with FH, so I use same or stiffer spong on it. 


No, I am much more of a BH player. However, I do a lot of flicks, quick blocks, flat attacks and pushes there so a harder sponge there can be a good thing. But don't get me wrong, I played with Sriver FX most of my career so soft sponges are fine with me as well... it's just that when you play with a fresh rubber and you increase thickness it becomes less controllable and that somehow shows even more with softer sponges.
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Could you Compare IQ UL in terms of Speed&Spin with some other popular rubbers? Is it as Least as durable as Tenery?
 
I�m thinking about getting one to try it; although I�m really satisfied with Tenergy�s I can�t afford it every 4 mouths a new pair of rubbers, so I�m thinking about trying a spinny but cheap and durable rubber on my BH.
 
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Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

Could you Compare IQ UL in terms of Speed&Spin with some other popular rubbers? Is it as Least as durable as Tenery?

I�m thinking about getting one to try it; although I�m really satisfied with Tenergy�s I can�t afford it every 4 mouths a new pair of rubbers, so I�m thinking about trying a spinny but cheap and durable rubber on my BH.


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i can only compare it to the desto series im afraid, much more spin than F3 and power. but the sheet of IQUL is rather heavy in comparison. ive been playing with it for a couple of months now on my forehand and it seems very durable. feels great to play with and on a harder thicker sponge (like 2.2/3 42) you can get some real punch out of it.

you should adjust easily because tenergy is natrually a heavy rubber anyway. ive never used tenergy but IQUL is definatly worth the money. plus you can recover both sides 3 times before you could afford to recover tenergy (^_^).

im getting the softer sponge on my BH in a couple of weeks to replace the F3 (cause thats pretty expensive too).
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