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    Posted: 11/19/2008 at 7:11am
Anybody knows which TV program show matches from this Pro Tour?
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The ttlive.tv is telecasting the live score. Waldner blogging also. I can't see the video though.
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yeah I can't seem to find vids either, but there is some "live blog"  that says it will start at friday 10 CET, so maybe that's the live feed?
http://go2008.ttlive.tv

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Toriola destroyed Ovtcharov 4:2!! Go, Segun! ... he is on fire this year!
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thats frigging amazing, he upset saive in the olympics, almost beat oh sang eun, lets c what he can do in the spotlight
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that is very good news. after all this years, he finally got some sponsorship to play in the ittf protour. his ranking will improve. these are some of the obstacles and firewalls facing players from poor developing countries despite their talents.
this is good news for the sport. thanks jimT.
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Crisan just beat Boll in 7 sets!
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Jiang Tianyi just beat Toriola 4-2. Unhappy
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WHAT THE HELL?? Crisan just beat Boll 4.3 but now the website says walkover for Boll???????
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Originally posted by TTNoobie TTNoobie wrote:

Crisan just beat Boll in 7 sets!
 
You're right...but it appears that Crisan's bat failed the test as the results say Boll received a 4-0 walkover!!!
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^That is SO stupid. Boll shouldnt be let through since he lost. Stupid ittf. But now Timo must over come the might of YOSHIDA KAII!
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WOW that's crazy!!!! Do you know if it was the thickness test or the VOC test??
 
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Crisans rubbers where after the Match thicker than the allowed 4mm. Befor the match he passed the Test. It seems, that he has changed the racket betweeen test no. 1 and the match
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Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

^That is SO stupid. Boll shouldnt be let through since he lost. Stupid ittf. But now Timo must over come the might of YOSHIDA KAII!
 
On the contrary, Crisan shouldn't be let through as his bat didn't meet the rules and he may have cheated...who knows?
The ITTF have the rules and Crisan is the one who has kept his side of the bargain.
I find it unbelievable that professional players cannot make sure their racket meets the requirements before they play....
 
As for Kai Yoshida, Boll can use his right hand and still win 4-0 :)
 
I heard its the thickness Gorgeous!
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Crisan is known for funny stuff like that, even before the new restrictions were in effect. I remember his match against Patrick Baum at the U.S. Open earlier this year where he purposely destroyed his paddle in order to exchange it with a spare one. He was disqualified there also.
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there was a video on butterflyonline, where crisan deliberately screwed his raquet so he can change to  a new one. patrick baum complained and crisan was disqualified, hes got bad sportsmanship.
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It seems he changed his bat before the game began.
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Hes a dumbass. He should have had it checked during so that way he could switch back.
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so TECHNICALLY, boll has yet to lose a set in this tournament?
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technically....yes......lol. I wonder what blade and rubber Crisan uses.
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Originally posted by naijachief naijachief wrote:

technically....yes......lol. I wonder what blade and rubber Crisan uses.
 
Yeh...I wonder which Booster he is using as well
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Originally posted by elcapitan_thfc elcapitan_thfc wrote:

Originally posted by naijachief naijachief wrote:

technically....yes......lol. I wonder what blade and rubber Crisan uses.
 
Yeh...I wonder which Booster he is using as well
 
Yes, I wonder too. What kind of booster enables the sponge to get thicker DURING the match ? His blade was controlled before and after and stayed in the game area, right ? Before was OK, after wasn't...Weird, isn't ?
 
Actually, what I find the weirdest is that Adrian Crisan was considered as a great champion and one of the most talented european player 12 weeks ago and now, he's just a cheater...THAT is weird !
 
The only good news is that Timo will win the German open and the sponsors will be happy, and the German fans too. I'm not sure Timo will enjoyed his victory as much as he should have...
 
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Originally posted by manluski manluski wrote:

that is very good news. after all this years, he finally got some sponsorship to play in the ittf protour. his ranking will improve. these are some of the obstacles and firewalls facing players from poor developing countries despite their talents.
this is good news for the sport. thanks jimT.
 
He is one of my favorite players. Next comes the West Indies cricket players.
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Originally posted by jcdi jcdi wrote:

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Actually, what I find the weirdest is that Adrian Crisan was considered as a great champion and one of the most talented european player 12 weeks ago and now, he's just a cheater...THAT is weird !
 
 
Yes. Overnight all those who refused to accept the new rules (regarding boosters) became cheaters. This category includes the chinese. I would rather watch "cheaters" than pro players struggling to adjust to the ITTF whims.
 
BTW: CRISAN DID NOT CHANGE HIS RAQUET! IF he did, he has a bright career in magic ahead of him.
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i'm not going to crucify the guy because there are more than a few players trying to boost their way through the difficult rule change, but crisan needs to stop cheating.  he didn't get away with it at the us open, but obviously he didn't learn his lesson.  it's sad, cause he is a fun player to watch and obviously really talented.
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Originally posted by mdjenders mdjenders wrote:

i'm not going to crucify the guy because there are more than a few players trying to boost their way through the difficult rule change, but crisan needs to stop cheating.  he didn't get away with it at the us open, but obviously he didn't learn his lesson.  it's sad, cause he is a fun player to watch and obviously really talented.
 
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that is kind of funny. if he was allowed to play that means his bat was checked before the match. then he played and won. then his bat was checked after the match. then it failed. that means he changed his bat during the game. any video evidence to prove this? how many players racket are checked after a match.
 
this is very funny. i think germany is trying to safe bolls ass. it is disgusting. think of the player who is the victim of this bs.
 
i do not think boll deserve this help to advance his career. period.
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Adrian Crisan had taken his racket to the officials before the match started, the racket passed the test and then he used another racket for the match. After the match and the referee discovered that the racket covering was too thick. So according to me: or A) Crisan did take another bat
B) The referee did not messure the racket covering good enough ( it should never have passed the first test)
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His raquet was kept by the officials 2 hours before the match, then returned to him before the match and then tested again after. When did he exchange it? 3000 people watching, all on video. Magic.
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hi kalin

who told you he changed his racket for the match. if the procedure is not without error. the procedure should be improved and not punish the player. as a scientist this happens all the time. and this is why procedures are being improved.

 

shame on germany and ittf. shame on timo boll. although timo boll is shameless.

the players union should rise up against ittf and germany decision. a boycott of the next german open will be a first step.

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