coaching experience in ShenZhen, China...

I just want to share my experience of learning to play TT in ShenZhen for the past 3 months.

I started playing TT last year in Canada with a coach for 4 months.  Then I have my vacation in Hong Kong for 3 months.  So I decided to try to get a coach in either in Hong Kong or ShenZhen to further my learning.

I went to most of the clubs in Hong Kong.  But almost all of them are small in size which in my opinion is too tight of space for playing comfortably.  I also watched some of the coaches teach.  Although the coaches do all the usual drills, but they don't seem to be very professional at all.  But the coaches charge between US$ 35-50/hour, and table fee is from US$0-2.50/hour.

Then I went to a few clubs in ShenZhen and GuangZhou.  GuangZhou has the better aminities and more expensive clubs, but the coaches are better in ShenZhen.  The charge for a coach range from US$9-13/hour + table fee of $3-5/hour.

Usually, I played with coach that charges US$13+5/hour.  By paying US$2/hour more I get my own bounded playing area which is also more roomy and with my own private air conditioning (which is a must in the summer time in asia).  The coaches who charge the most are usually the best of the club.  The less expensive may be good enough for most people, but since I traveled from across the world to here, I just want the best coach.  The coaches are usually from the ex-provincial team, who are those that can't make it to the national team playing with WangHao.  The coaches are in the mid-20's which is the age of WangHao.

After 3 months of learning with the Chinese coach in ShenZhen, my playing style have improve a great deal as in Very Spiny Loop, Tight Form, Aggressive Backhand, Fast Responsive Leg Movement.  If I didn't go to ShenZhen to learn, I don't think I can learn this contemperaly Chinese style any where else; of course at very affortable costs.  This young coaches just left the provincial team so their skill is more current style of play.  But the time they immigrate to abroad, their skill would be 10-20 years old.

Next year after I save enough, I will go back to learn my Serve & Receive which I don't have enough concentration this time.  Now I will go home to kick some asses. 

I deceive myself now & then. Reading your post called my attention to this...
more specifically, reading your last sentence called my attention to this.
My reaction to it was quick & clear!

When I am wearing one of many faces I say to myself, and any that will listen;
"I do not have to win. I just want to play well."
I've said this many many times.

...But the reason I am trying, trying to improve
is to become a Master

or as you so eloquently, and far more succinctly said:
"kick some asses." 

Rich,

With my limited knowledge,  Waldner's arm is always tuck close to his body.
There are two different distance for him to execute his forhand.

(1) in the beginning of the youtube,  Waldner stands close to the table, and his movement is huge.  In reality it is not possible, the the big movement, he would have enough recover time.  So this part, he is just get the feel of forehand; Persson feeds very slow; not a real playing stroke.
(2) 1:05 min Waldner stands further away from table.  Walner uses his leg and waist for his forehand control.  The big arm movement is the follow thru needed since stand further away; but still arm tuck close to the body.  I think the main point should be the leg and waist.
(3) 5:50 min Waldner & Persson seems to be open up.  Upper arm still consistly stable.

Tight Form = limit upper arm movement (not using it to reach for the ball), using more leg and waist.

Can you speak Mandarin or Cantonese? 

You play Shakehand or Penhold?

Do you  want Coach or Playing Partners?

man!!! u guys r making me wanna go back to GZ just for ping pong training. i grew up there and now missing the place...

tuco wrote: Hi, miceman, can you please send me where and whom to contact to get coaches in SZ? thanks,

yeah, i would like to know as well...
thank you...

miceman wrote: Can you speak Mandarin or Cantonese?  You play Shakehand or Penhold? Do you  want Coach or Playing Partners?

I speak Cantonese but not Mandarin.  I can understand a little Mandarin.  I need coaching and can go to either GZ or SZ.  You can PM me or post here

Dayum man!

My coach will probably make me go to China to train for like a month.

I know cantonese but not so much mandarin...do you know if they spoke cantonese there? lol thanks!!

Totoro wrote: Dayum man! My coach will probably make me go to China to train for like a month. I know cantonese but not so much mandarin...do you know if they spoke cantonese there? lol thanks!!

They should speak canto there. Shenzen is still in guang dong.

The best place in ShenZhen I think is

世纪南华乒乓球俱乐部
地址: 福田区红岭中路2033号3楼 (博爱医院对面)
电话: 0755-8224-6108
www.kyksj.com

check in ditu.google.com , which is map of China.

高 峰 (the guy on the front page) He is my coach.  His loop has a strong forwand bound after landing on the table; this skill he said only possessed by all national team players and a limited number of provincial players.  My coach in Canada sure can't produce this kind of bound.

Another Important Point to Make:  For the money I pay, He teaches me whatever I wanted to learn.  My Canada's coach, like most others, teaches me "what he sees fit".  That is how my beginner skill get all screw up due to his ignorant.  Or may be it is just that my Canada's coach doesn't know much to teach so he want to make the max. money off me just giving me the sh...t.

For this reason alone, it is worth while to go to train in ShenZhen or GuangZhou.  Train in your own way and desire.  After all it is my money; I should be treated like a boss.

Last advice, just do legal taxi (normal taxi trip around the city should be within US$ 4 or RMB 30).  no bus please.  subway is fine if you know where you are going (RMB 2).  annoy all solicitors on the street.  don't give any money to beggers.  hold your backpack in front.  then you should have a safe trip.  western or colored is fine in SZ or GZ since there are many many of them around.

If you go to HeiLongJiang, you may well go to Russia during your practice break.

miceman wrote: I just want to share my experience of learning to play TT in ShenZhen for the past 3 months. I started playing TT last year in Canada with a coach for 4 months.  Then I have my vacation in Hong Kong for 3 months.  So I decided to try to get a coach in either in Hong Kong or ShenZhen to further my learning. I went to most of the clubs in Hong Kong.  But almost all of them are small in size which in my opinion is too tight of space for playing comfortably.  I also watched some of the coaches teach.  Although the coaches do all the usual drills, but they don't seem to be very professional at all.  But the coaches charge between US$ 35-50/hour, and table fee is from US$0-2.50/hour. Then I went to a few clubs in ShenZhen and GuangZhou.  GuangZhou has the better aminities and more expensive clubs, but the coaches are better in ShenZhen.  The charge for a coach range from US$9-13/hour + table fee of $3-5/hour. Usually, I played with coach that charges US$13+5/hour.  By paying US$2/hour more I get my own bounded playing area which is also more roomy and with my own private air conditioning (which is a must in the summer time in asia).  The coaches who charge the most are usually the best of the club.  The less expensive may be good enough for most people, but since I traveled from across the world to here, I just want the best coach.  The coaches are usually from the ex-provincial team, who are those that can't make it to the national team playing with WangHao.  The coaches are in the mid-20's which is the age of WangHao. After 3 months of learning with the Chinese coach in ShenZhen, my playing style have improve a great deal as in Very Spiny Loop, Tight Form, Aggressive Backhand, Fast Responsive Leg Movement.  If I didn't go to ShenZhen to learn, I don't think I can learn this contemperaly Chinese style any where else; of course at very affortable costs.  This young coaches just left the provincial team so their skill is more current style of play.  But the time they immigrate to abroad, their skill would be 10-20 years old. Next year after I save enough, I will go back to learn my Serve & Receive which I don't have enough concentration this time.  Now I will go home to kick some asses.